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Jacob

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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2013, 05:18:15 PM »
For how long do you have to wait with yeast pitching after campden tablets were added?

In general you wait 24 hrs after adding campden tablets and/or pectolase before pitching yeast
Thanks !

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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2013, 10:33:45 PM »
For how long do you have to wait with yeast pitching after campden tablets were added?
'Bout 24 hours or so
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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2013, 07:48:23 PM »

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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2013, 07:57:15 PM »
For how long do you have to wait with yeast pitching after campden tablets were added?
'Bout 24 hours or so

Do you stand it under airlock before pitching, or do you cap it?

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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2013, 09:07:00 PM »
a few questions

hope to collect the AJ in the next 48hrs, how long can I leave the juice or should I make the cider asap.

only have plastic FVs, are these ok. read somewhere that glass was better for cider.

how long will the AJ be in the FVs before I can bottle.

is it ok to prime the btls with AJ or use sugar, or cider only in the btl.

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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2013, 01:34:13 AM »
JFI

The Apple Farm boys and girls ferment juice themselves(no for commercial sale)with no yeast added just natural yeasts on apple skins
They reported some failures over the years.
 
You can use beer to ferment your cider but its best to have a 50:50 juice dme mix with some yeast nutrient.
In this months Zymurgy (AHA periodical) a report list WLP 002 and 028 as two yeast particularly suited to cider fermentation and are 2 I am trying this year.
http://www.whitelabs.com/cider

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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2013, 02:11:22 AM »
I wish to extend a huge thank you to CH without whose tireless efforts on behalf of others group buys on this scale would be a lot more difficult, take a bow CH.

Ok now i will be getting my 50 litres of juice tomorrow but things have changed to where i may not be able to get to do anything with them until the weekend. is it worth the risk trying to do one of the 25lt drums as a natural ferment in a 33lt bucket FV ? If not i plan on dosing both with 10 campden tablets each and leaving until the weekend under a bubbler in two bucket Fv's.

The yeasts i have to hand atm are all dry yeasts, s04, us05, Vintners Harvest SN9 wine yeast.
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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2013, 02:30:26 AM »
What you still doing awake?
Camden tomorrow will be fine for 24-48 hrs
Do you want a cider yeast?

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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2013, 10:52:23 AM »
Thanks for the juice John! Bottled few litres y-day before put campden tablets in. Tasted lovely.

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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2013, 11:26:48 AM »
A big thanks to John for this.

I am splitting up my juice as follows:

20 L will be pasturised to use later on.

40 L will be pitched with a Chardonnay Yeast and Nutrient

40 L will be pitched with WLP-830 (German Lager)

Both will be fermented outside - due to space and other restrictions

Will follow progress of the fermentation. At some point in the future (expect 6 to 8 weeks) I will rack off the yeast and leave again for maturing.

So good luck to all who set sail on the "good ship cider maker" for the first time and also to some veterans of the craft.
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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2013, 01:22:01 PM »
In general you wait 24 hrs after adding campden tablets and/or pectolase before pitching yeast

So do you add the Pectolase at the same time as the Campden Tablets?

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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2013, 02:23:52 PM »
Thanks to CH, Dempsey , IsMise and ColinC for the chain of distribution that delivered my juice last night. Much appreciated lads!

Maybe I imagined it but did I previously read that you could ferment in the containers? If so whats the procedure? Are you drilling the cap or just loosening it up a bit?

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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2013, 02:59:01 PM »
In general you wait 24 hrs after adding campden tablets and/or pectolase before pitching yeast

So do you add the Pectolase at the same time as the Campden Tablets?

In the video nigel_C added he does it like this:

Campden Tablets____(12 hours)_______Pectalose_____(12 hours)________Pitch yeast
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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2013, 03:08:41 PM »
I just got my juice now, I have to say the blend is delicious straight off the bat. Looking forward to this :-) I'm already thinking I'll order twice this next year.

TT

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Re: CIDER 101
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2013, 08:27:56 PM »
+ 1 to it being damn tasty. I kept a little bit back for our little fellas and it went in double quick time!

I was also wondering if any one has read "Real Cidermaking on a Small Scale"?

I'm starting to wish I hadn't. >:( It tells me I shouldn't need campden tablets, or cultured yeast and it's pretty adamant about two things that didn't really compute:

1 - you must top your fermentation vessel right up to the top to avoid infection by airborne bugs (I'm hoping campden tablets void this)

2 - you can't store it cold until it's fermented because it will go sour because fermentation will be slower than the bugs (maybe they are talking about aceto here but I'd have thought lacto was more cold averse than yeast and brett too slow, and again I'm hoping campden tablets will void this).

Any thoughts any one?