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Food Grade sodium hydroxide

Started by oblivious, October 06, 2015, 04:48:35 PM

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oblivious

October 06, 2015, 04:48:35 PM Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 09:35:13 AM by johnrm
Hi all


Does any know of a source of food grade sodium hydroxide (lye) ?

Leann ull

October 06, 2015, 05:25:43 PM #1 Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 09:35:27 AM by johnrm
Nasty nasty stuff and almost impossible to get hold of food grade for home use, consider Sodium Carbonate?
And of course my obvious question, why,
Pretzels? ;)

Pheeel

October 06, 2015, 05:56:49 PM #2 Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 09:35:42 AM by johnrm
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johnrm

October 06, 2015, 11:45:26 PM #3 Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 09:35:54 AM by johnrm
Are you making candi sugar?
You can get it on eBay

Eoin

October 07, 2015, 12:49:01 AM #4 Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 09:36:12 AM by johnrm
Isn't acid good enough for candi sugar? You don't need reducing agent from what I know.

oblivious

October 07, 2015, 08:24:44 AM #5 Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 09:36:25 AM by johnrm
Quote from: CH on October 06, 2015, 05:25:43 PM
Nasty nasty stuff and almost impossible to get hold of food grade for home use, consider Sodium Carbonate?
And of course my obvious question, why,
Pretzels? ;)

Don't think it would be a strong enough base.

Pretzels? Candy syrup :)

oblivious

October 07, 2015, 08:26:33 AM #6 Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 09:36:39 AM by johnrm
Quote from: johnrm on October 06, 2015, 11:45:26 PM
Are you making candi sugar?
You can get it on eBay

I must have a look :)

oblivious

October 07, 2015, 08:38:20 AM #7 Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 09:37:35 AM by johnrm
Quote from: Eoin on October 07, 2015, 12:49:01 AM
Isn't acid good enough for candi sugar? You don't need reducing agent from what I know.

High pH will protect the -OH group on the sugar,  preventing burning and allowing maillard reactions (flavour) with the sugar and amino acid in the yeast nutation 

Damien M

October 07, 2015, 08:55:52 AM #8 Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 09:37:24 AM by johnrm
Quote from: oblivious on October 07, 2015, 08:38:20 AM
Quote from: Eoin on October 07, 2015, 12:49:01 AM
Isn't acid good enough for candi sugar? You don't need reducing agent from what I know.

High pH will protect the -OH group on the sugar,  preventing burning and allowing maillard reactions (flavour) with the sugar and amino acid in the yeast nutation

That there's a bit of science there. Look at it. Appreciate it! Consider it! Makes me want to be a better brewer!!!

johnrm

Did you search the forum?
There is a thread on this somewhere. I'll find it and post it here.

johnrm

I believe Calcium Hydroxide is safer and possibly easier to get. (I got some on eBay)

Here is the thread...
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,8782.msg109720.html#msg109720

Here is the science...
http://suigenerisbrewing.blogspot.ie/2013/09/making-belgian-candi-sugar.html?m=1

I love when his wife gets involved!

EDIT: I fixed the typo in the subject through the thread Sodium, not soduim - OCD alert!

oblivious

Quote from: johnrm on October 07, 2015, 09:34:53 AM
I believe Calcium Hydroxide is safer and possibly easier to get. (I got some on eBay)

Here is the thread...
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,8782.msg109720.html#msg109720

Here is the science...
http://suigenerisbrewing.blogspot.ie/2013/09/making-belgian-candi-sugar.html?m=1

I love when his wife gets involved!


EDIT: I fixed the typo in the subject through the thread Sodium, not soduim - OCD alert!


Than you for that, yeah any strong base will do the job :) 

Interesting use of DME for the amino worth a try

Greg2013

Quote from: oblivious on October 06, 2015, 04:48:35 PM
Hi all


Does any know of a source of food grade sodium hydroxide (lye) ?

You looking for powder or liquid form ? O0
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."  Gen. James 'Mad Dog' Mattis USMC(Ret.)

oblivious

Quote from: Greg2013 on October 07, 2015, 09:27:52 PM
Quote from: oblivious on October 06, 2015, 04:48:35 PM
Hi all


Does any know of a source of food grade sodium hydroxide (lye) ?

You looking for powder or liquid form ? O0

Power if possible 

Greg2013

"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."  Gen. James 'Mad Dog' Mattis USMC(Ret.)