Rebel Barrel 2015; Czech Dark Lager

[raindogxx]

Sounds good. Here's my BeerSmith recipe. I'm happy to tweak it if anybody has suggestions.

Jon

http://beersmithrecipes.com/viewrecipe/622614?&doid=54773644e5baa

[johnrm]

14 gal Boil down to 10 gal?
Have you leaks in your system?

[raindogxx]

14 gal Boil down to 10 gal?
Have you leaks in your system?

No, it's this damn boil kettle. Evaporation rate is terrible:

[johnrm]

I have a vial of WLP838 - Southern German Lager Yeast.
http://www.whitelabs.com/yeast/wlp838-southern-german-lager-yeast
I could make up a big starter of this and split it.

[mr hoppy]

Is this on?

[johnrm]

Was that tumbleweed?

We're short 1 batch, I could do 2 if necessary.
Bearing in mind this is a lager, is everyone happy about temp control for primary?
STC controlled Brew belt in a shed?
I've not lagered before so what profile?

[mr hoppy]

You and your fancy flashed STC.

Start at 10 go to 12 once you've got low krausen for 7 - 12 days (when krausen drops) and then drop down a degree a day til you can go no lower (must be lower than 7) and then hold for 6 - 8 weeks.

If you need to do a diacetyl rest go from 12 to 16 just before krausen drops hold for 2 days and the proceed as above.

I've Wyeast 2001 and WLP 800 if people need some.

[derfel]

what sort of time frames are we talking so?
I'm new to lager so not sure how long it'll need in primary and so on.

[mr hoppy]

7 - 12 days.

I think the idea is to do most of the layering in the barrel at ambient temperatures.

I was hoping Garry would put a coil full of chilled salt water pumped through a cold source but he's not volunteered yet.

[mr hoppy]

Sorry, just to be clear the primary fermentation takes 7-12 days and then I'd just leave it in the primary fermenter til it goes in the barrel whenever that happens.

[Taf]

Bah, secondary for 6 to 8 weeks! I presume that can just be in an unheated garage, as doubt it will get over that temp over the next two months, otherwise I am out, as not going to commit my fermentation fridge for that long.

Are we still definitely sure we don't want to do a black IPA? if we do stick with the black lager, can we up the ABV a bit more?

[LordEoin]

secondary = barrel.
your fridge should only be needed for about 2 weeks while primary is happening. after that it should be plenty cold enough in your garage to sit until barrel filling day.

[mr hoppy]

secondary = barrel.

secondary = everything after you drop the temp, garage and barrel.

Malt arrived today. Big ole bag of Weyermanns Bohemian Pilsener Malt.

[LordEoin]

removed post to avoid confusion - mistake in recipe
new file can be found here: http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.com/forum/index.php/topic,8354.msg106855.html#msg106855

[Will_D]

I love "off the brewsmith scale recipes"