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Title: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: DEMPSEY on March 09, 2016, 12:29:20 PM
The Liffey Brewers are planning a Barrel aged Russian Imperial stout.
We are using,
Pale Malt,             54.9%
Brown Malt,         20.7%
Roast Barley,       10.4%
Black Malt,            4.7%
Crystal 60L,          4.7%
Chocolate Malt,     4.7%

Columbus/Tomahawk/Zeus first wort 17.8% IBU
East Kent Goldings boil 10 minutes      5.0%IBU
US-05 yeast
Not the only people to publish recipes mr Brewdog :)
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: delzep on March 10, 2016, 05:27:15 PM
IBU's need to be massively increased to about 90

Also, what ABV are we going for? About 9.5%?
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: imark on March 10, 2016, 06:49:27 PM
OG 1.100
FG 1.022
96 IBU (84@FW + 12@10)
ABV 10.5%

The numbers on Brian's post are AA% for the hops. He didn't post the gravities and IBUs.
Remember to allow for much lower efficiencies with a high gravity brew like this guys. ~60% wouldn't be an unreasonable estimate if you dont have an idea already.
Should have what you need there now.  :)
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: eanna on March 10, 2016, 07:41:35 PM
Is anyone planning to use the second runnings?
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: DEMPSEY on March 19, 2016, 11:42:28 AM
The barrels are ready to receive
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: molc on March 19, 2016, 11:52:47 AM
Mother of god, why is there such a big gap between the two barrels. I have an image in my head if the top one getting loose and going for a roll:)
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: DEMPSEY on March 19, 2016, 02:01:58 PM
I WAS TOLD TO LEAVE A GAP TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THE BOTTOM BARREL :D :D. Big heads in the liffey brewers :P
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: DEMPSEY on March 19, 2016, 02:03:33 PM
No reason for it to move unless we are on a ship. :D
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: molc on March 19, 2016, 02:59:30 PM
Fair point. Still not a chance you'd get me anywhere under there while working in the bottom barrel :) I'd be paranoid I'd knock against the support arm.
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Shanna on March 19, 2016, 03:13:21 PM
Quote from: molc on March 19, 2016, 11:52:47 AM
Mother of god, why is there such a big gap between the two barrels. I have an image in my head if the top one getting loose and going for a roll:)
My first impression also especially as your also going to be reaching for the top barrel. Not to question the carpenter but will that rig handle the extra 200 kg of liquid going in to the barrel Not to mention the 400+ kilos on the bottom set of staves. I would consider bracing it with a few diagonal pieces of wood. Belt and braces should the order of the day. I would also consider some thicker pieces of wood. Would be a travesty to have 400 litres of beer go for the want of some extra wood, not to mention the risk to life and limb of 200+ kg barrel l falling on someone.

Shanna
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: DEMPSEY on March 19, 2016, 04:03:39 PM
Gee thanks lads your interest in my welfare is touching :). When the time comes to fill them we are removing them to empty the whisky than put them back up and then putting a extra brace on them. :)
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: neoanto on March 19, 2016, 04:13:43 PM
What prevents the top barrel from rolling?
Lets say you accidentally nudged the support?
Title: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Leann ull on March 19, 2016, 04:33:47 PM
Fucking hell that looks well dodge sorry Brian definitely a Darwin Award candidate you only need a 6 inch gap to get a hose and pump in
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Shanna on March 19, 2016, 04:34:41 PM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on March 19, 2016, 04:03:39 PM
Gee thanks lads your interest in my welfare is touching :). When the time comes to fill them we are removing them to empty the whisky than put them back up and then putting a extra brace on them. :)
Glad to hear your on board for staying safe :) First impression was on seeing the photo was accident waiting to happen. Hope the beer generates as much interest!!! 2nd look at the photo and it's lethal as the top staves are balancing the top barrel on the bottom one. Time to go back to the drawing board and put them both at ground level.

Shanna
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: imark on March 21, 2016, 08:10:05 PM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on March 19, 2016, 11:42:28 AM
The barrels are ready to receive
What is the fill date?
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: DamienE on March 24, 2016, 06:30:49 PM
Has fill date been decided?
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: imark on March 29, 2016, 11:22:11 AM
Just confirmed that all beer for the fill is to be with Brian by 29th April.
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: eanna on April 06, 2016, 11:38:38 AM
Eanna             Brewed 25/03/16              20L        1.0925 OG
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Lofty123 on April 06, 2016, 11:42:11 AM
Steven 20L 1.092 OG
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: DEMPSEY on April 06, 2016, 11:51:28 AM
19L at 1099
20.5L at 1096
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: lordstilton on April 06, 2016, 12:17:31 PM
19L at 1099
20.5L at 1096
22L at 1095
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: diarmuid on April 06, 2016, 12:24:02 PM
21 L @ 1.098
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: delzep on April 06, 2016, 12:45:16 PM
20l @1.088  :(
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Dodge on April 06, 2016, 01:15:36 PM
1. Eanna      20l.   1.092
2. Lofty123   20l.   1.092
3. Dempsey  19l.    1.099
                   20.5l. 1.096
4. Lordstilton 22l.   1.095
5. Diarmiud   21l.   1.098
6. Delzep      20l.   1.088
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Dodge on April 06, 2016, 06:45:32 PM
1. Eanna      20l.   1.092
2. Lofty123   20l.   1.092
3. Dempsey  19l.    1.099
                   20.5l. 1.096
4. Lordstilton 22l.   1.095
5. Diarmiud   21l.   1.098
6. Delzep      20l.   1.088
7. Dodge.     19l.    1.097
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: imark on April 06, 2016, 09:06:29 PM
1. Eanna      20l.   1.092
2. Lofty123   20l.   1.092
3. Dempsey  19l.    1.099
                   20.5l. 1.096
4. Lordstilton 22l.   1.095
5. Diarmiud   21l.   1.098
6. Delzep      20l.   1.088
7. Dodge.     19l.    1.097
8. imark       40L   1.098
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: DamienE on April 09, 2016, 03:52:53 PM
1. Eanna      20l.   1.092
2. Lofty123   20l.   1.092
3. Dempsey  19l.    1.099
                   20.5l. 1.096
4. Lordstilton 22l.   1.095
5. Diarmiud   21l.   1.098
6. Delzep      20l.   1.088
7. Dodge.     19l.    1.097
8. imark       40L   1.098
9. DamienE   19L.  1.086
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: lordstilton on April 13, 2016, 04:17:29 PM
1. Eanna      20l.   1.092
2. Lofty123   20l.   1.092
3. Dempsey  19l.    1.099
                   20.5l. 1.096
4. Lordstilton 22l.   1.095
5. Diarmiud   21l.   1.098
6. Delzep      20l.   1.088
7. Dodge.     19l.    1.097
8. imark       40L   1.098
9. DamienE   19L.  1.086
10. Lordstilton 20L 1.098
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: johnrm on April 20, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
The Barrel arrangement looks lovely - Good Job Brian!

...and you know the Acronym for your beer is B.R.I.S.
Heres another type of Bris...
http://www.kveller.com/article/the-bris-ceremony/
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: DEMPSEY on April 20, 2016, 02:49:55 PM
Aah here I'm crossing me legs and wincing while reading that  :D
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: johnrm on April 20, 2016, 05:30:29 PM
The label should have a safety warning to that effect!
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: imark on April 20, 2016, 05:34:15 PM
We can call it helmet head stout
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: delzep on April 20, 2016, 07:02:23 PM
Big bastard stout
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: imark on April 20, 2016, 09:56:37 PM
Shalom Putin
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 04, 2016, 09:45:26 PM
Right we need to have all the stout delivered to my place so we can fill the barrels. I am suggesting next Wednesday 11th may as the fill date.  :)
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: imark on May 04, 2016, 09:48:34 PM
Perfect! I'll call out on the day to help
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: lordstilton on May 05, 2016, 08:44:47 AM
I can drop down too
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: delzep on May 05, 2016, 01:02:55 PM
Party in dempseys  ;D
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: imark on May 05, 2016, 03:45:46 PM
Quote from: delzep on May 05, 2016, 01:02:55 PM
Party in dempseys  ;D
Helped him install his new bar especially for it. He's got some special grnfather brews on for it and all. Will be EPIC!
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 12, 2016, 08:57:06 PM
Barrels all filled (mostly ;)) and tucked away nicely
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 12, 2016, 08:59:56 PM
This is the original source of the barrels.
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Leann ull on May 12, 2016, 09:45:39 PM
I'm still shitting myself about that top barrel and really no need to have it that high I would have got a third barrel in that space, I'm not giving out about the quality of the construction I just don't want it falling on you, just saying loike :(
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Leann ull on May 12, 2016, 09:48:44 PM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on May 12, 2016, 08:59:56 PM
This is the original source of the barrels.

Those barrels were owned by Diageo once then  ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Fitzgerald
Looks like a lovely whiskey
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 12, 2016, 10:40:41 PM
The stand is as solid as a rock.Sure wasn't I swinging out of them last night :D
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 12, 2016, 10:44:03 PM
Thanks for the info on the barrels. Never heard of this Whiskey :)
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: imark on May 13, 2016, 03:42:28 PM
That's not the relevant whisky. The one that was in it immediately before our stout (nice peat smokey scotch) is what matters.
The aroma as we filled these barrels was absolutely delicious. I've very high hopes for the end product (assuming the top barrel doesn't fall over) 😉
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: Leann ull on May 13, 2016, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on May 12, 2016, 10:40:41 PM
The stand is as solid as a rock.Sure wasn't I swinging out of them last night :D

I was reading all about the swingers in Celbridge on another forum alright
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: imark on May 13, 2016, 06:49:48 PM
Quote from: CH on May 13, 2016, 04:14:01 PM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on May 12, 2016, 10:40:41 PM
The stand is as solid as a rock.Sure wasn't I swinging out of them last night :D

I was reading all about the swingers in Celbridge on another forum alright
What forums do you be reading 😜
Title: Re: Barrel Russian Imperial Stout
Post by: imark on July 06, 2016, 12:36:47 PM
Since we all agreed the beer is ready to come out of the barrels now, can we agree a date to empty them?