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Title: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: irish_goat on June 22, 2019, 05:42:12 PM
Thinking of brewing up a nice hoppy wheat beer for the summer now. Anyone any thoughts on which hops would work best? Obvious choice would be Citra but would like to branch out and use something different as well.
Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: molc on June 23, 2019, 12:56:09 AM
Baveria Melon for some orange citrus maybe?
Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: irish_goat on June 23, 2019, 09:52:28 AM
Quote from: molc on June 23, 2019, 12:56:09 AM
Baveria Melon for some orange citrus maybe?

Huell Melon? Thought about Mandarina Bavaria maybe. Not sure I would want any melon flavour though.
Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: molc on June 23, 2019, 09:54:24 AM
Hehe sorry got the two stuck together in my head. Meant Mandarina Bavaria

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Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: DEMPSEY on June 23, 2019, 06:56:19 PM
Belma hops and Hull melon. :)
Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: nigel_c on June 23, 2019, 07:28:12 PM
Have used both sorachi ace & lemondrop in wheat beers and was happy with them.
Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: DEMPSEY on June 24, 2019, 08:51:43 AM
I have just used lemondrop hops and the smell is more earthy than lemon :-\. Would that be normal.
Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: irish_goat on June 24, 2019, 08:55:56 AM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on June 24, 2019, 08:51:43 AM
I have just used lemondrop hops and the smell is more earthy than lemon :-\. Would that be normal.

Had a Larkin's pale ale(Cascade and Lemondrop) last night and I didn't get much lemon aroma off it. Think there was a definite lemony flavour though.

Might go for Mandarina Bavaria single hop. Keeps it slightly traditional.

Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: helmet on June 24, 2019, 07:33:07 PM
I've a Hopfenweisse in the pipelines and was planning on using Mandarina Bavaria and Hallertauer Blanc.

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Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: irish_goat on June 25, 2019, 10:57:10 AM
Ordered the ingredients there with Mandarina Bavaria but caved and threw in 60g of Azacca as well.
Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: Keg on June 25, 2019, 10:50:48 PM
A bit too late with the suggestion but I think some Ella in a hop stand or dry hop is a nice addition with wheat.

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Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: irish_goat on June 27, 2019, 02:22:25 PM
Quote from: Keg on June 25, 2019, 10:50:48 PM
A bit too late with the suggestion but I think some Ella in a hop stand or dry hop is a nice addition with wheat.

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I've never really been overly impressed by Ella. Are there any beers out at the minute that showcase it well?
Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: Keg on June 28, 2019, 12:18:48 PM
I think the 8 degrees Amber Ella is a good version.  I wouldn't use it during the boil as it gives different qualities then.  I use in in a trio with Citra and El dorado and it works well.

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Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: irish_goat on June 28, 2019, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: Keg on June 28, 2019, 12:18:48 PM
I think the 8 degrees Amber Ella is a good version.  I wouldn't use it during the boil as it gives different qualities then.  I use in in a trio with Citra and El dorado and it works well.

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I'm not mad on Amber Ella. I know it gets good reviews all the time but I feel like it's lacking a bit of punch. I must try it again though cause it's been a few years since I've had it.
Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: irish_goat on July 12, 2019, 09:31:52 AM
Water currently heating up.

Grains:
3kg Wheat Malt
2kg Pilsner
0.5kg Oat Malt

Hops
60 mins - 10g Mandarina Bavaria
0 mins - 40g Mandarina Bavaria

Yeast
Danstar Classic Munich

Will throw some Azzaca and Mandarina in as dry hops in a week or so too.
Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: Qs on July 13, 2019, 11:06:53 AM
Quote from: irish_goat on June 28, 2019, 12:23:34 PM
Quote from: Keg on June 28, 2019, 12:18:48 PM
I think the 8 degrees Amber Ella is a good version.  I wouldn't use it during the boil as it gives different qualities then.  I use in in a trio with Citra and El dorado and it works well.

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I'm not mad on Amber Ella. I know it gets good reviews all the time but I feel like it's lacking a bit of punch. I must try it again though cause it's been a few years since I've had it.

Don't know if its me or the beer but I thought it was lovely and hoppy the first year it came out but ever since its been a bit more malty.
Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: Keg on July 13, 2019, 01:50:16 PM
You might be right on that. The first time I had it a few years ago was what made me try Ella. Doesn't seem as hoppy now but I thought that was my own tastes

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Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: irish_goat on August 01, 2019, 08:19:24 AM
Cracked the first bottle last night, 19 days old. Fairly happy with the results, tasting like a nice fresh, Bavarian wheat with just a bit more citrus coming through. Colour is a little pale and muggy looking, would blame the oats for that. Think I'd add a touch of roasted malt just to up the colour next time.

Also, the yeast seems to have clumped rather than just flocced to the bottom like a regular weisse. Hopefully it just needs a bit more time in the fridge as it didn't look great when I poured the dregs in.
Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: helmet on August 02, 2019, 06:30:19 PM
Quote from: irish_goat on August 01, 2019, 08:19:24 AM
Cracked the first bottle last night, 19 days old. Fairly happy with the results, tasting like a nice fresh, Bavarian wheat with just a bit more citrus coming through. Colour is a little pale and muggy looking, would blame the oats for that. Think I'd add a touch of roasted malt just to up the colour next time.

Also, the yeast seems to have clumped rather than just flocced to the bottom like a regular weisse. Hopefully it just needs a bit more time in the fridge as it didn't look great when I poured the dregs in.
Had one of mine last night too. Pretty happy with it. Mostly getting banana from the yeast and orange coming through from the Mandarina. This is my entry for the Wee County summer bottle swap, so I'm hoping it's up to scratch! (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190802/65364fb0453e6f39954f213cb26c7166.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190802/b2031c54bcf091604a08d2c983038066.jpg)
Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: irish_goat on August 03, 2019, 09:55:02 AM
Looks good. I only did a 45g dry hop myself. Didn't want to all the banana to be overpowered by the hops.
Title: Re: Hopfenweisse hops
Post by: helmet on August 03, 2019, 10:18:36 AM
Quote from: irish_goat on August 03, 2019, 09:55:02 AM
Looks good. I only did a 45g dry hop myself. Didn't want to all the banana to be overpowered by the hops.
The yeast is still very much to the front. I was kinda expecting more from the hops, considering the Dry Hop, but it's balanced out nicely.