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Title: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: admin on November 12, 2013, 05:48:44 PM
i.e. the H2S, rotten eggs/farty smell.

Tube:
Stinks: Yes
Yeast: Notty
Nutrient: No
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Eoin on November 12, 2013, 05:50:43 PM
Yeast: Youngs cider
Smell: pleasant, not farty.
Nutrient : 1tsp per gallon. Youngs. 
19c

15 campden tabs per vessel.
1 with pectolase, 1 without.
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: brenmurph on November 12, 2013, 05:50:59 PM
MINE IS FERMENTING AWAY COLD (12C) Lovely fresh sweet apple aroma, fermenting on natures yeast in a cool dark shed now. Couple tspoons standard ( brupacks I think) yeast nutrient and a b complex tablet crushed
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Garry on November 12, 2013, 06:46:57 PM
Same as you Tube.

Stinks: Yes
Yeast: Notty
Nutrient: No
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: David on November 12, 2013, 06:57:39 PM
Fermenting away slowly

Stinks: No
Yeast: Natural
Nutrient: yes



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Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Shane Phelan on November 12, 2013, 06:59:43 PM
Stinks: No
Yeast: Youngs cider
Nutrient: Citric Acid

Stinks: No
Yeast: Mauribrew Weiss
Nutrient: Citric Acid

Stinks: No
Yeast: Mauribrew Lager 497
Nutrient: Citric Acid
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Tom on November 12, 2013, 07:15:01 PM
You need to add in whether or not you used sulphite or campden tablets.

Stinks. aye
yeast natural
nutrients no
sulphur aye
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Metattron on November 12, 2013, 07:20:37 PM
Temps may be helpful also:

Stinks: no
Yeast: Notty
Nutrient: yes
campden: yes
Temperature: 19C

Stinks: no
Yeast: EC-118
Nutrient: Yes
Campden: Yes
Temperature:18 C
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Ciderhead on November 12, 2013, 07:28:32 PM
Anybody using Beer yeast has to use a nutrient our resident Chemist will elaborate, I think it's to do with complex sugars.
Fart smells from H2s are enhanced by poor yeast nutrition and lower temps
Feed it and make it cosy!

So
Taking my brewing to a new level now and on all fours sniffing bubblers
Liquid beer yeasts which were from 2l starters 50%dme and 50% apple juice smells a bit
Cider and Pure Champagne just smell of apples
Nutrient yes in all as per directions
All force oxygenated
10 campden
Temp 19

As an aside my pilsners can also whiff a little from time to time
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Taf on November 13, 2013, 09:14:29 AM
Stinky: Not Really - Not compared to last year anyway!
Yeast: Champagne Yeast
Nutrient: No
Camden: Yes
Temp: 18.5C (Temp controlled this year, and just in house last year)

Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Greg2013 on November 13, 2013, 10:11:08 AM
Stink: yes

Yeast: Ec 1118

Nutrient: No


Stink : yes

Yeast: Sn9

Nutrient: No


Temperature 18-20 Celsius.
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: David on November 13, 2013, 06:34:59 PM
Spoke to soon starting to smell know
Not too strong but noticeable
Quote from: David on November 12, 2013, 06:57:39 PM
Fermenting away slowly

Stinks: No
Yeast: Natural
Nutrient: yes



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Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Eoin on November 13, 2013, 10:22:19 PM
Quote from: Il Tubo on November 13, 2013, 10:18:23 PM
Added nutrient this morning. Family complaining about the stink this evening!  :o

Stop farting and blaming the cider ffs

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Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Eoin on November 14, 2013, 08:50:50 AM
The smell profile of this is changing, getting closer to farts now.

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Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Ciderhead on November 14, 2013, 09:02:49 AM
No smell off any now since I put out the dog.
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Eoin on November 14, 2013, 09:03:24 AM
Quote from: Il Tubo on November 14, 2013, 08:57:58 AM
I think that starts to happen when the yeast runs low on something, possibly nitrogen.

I'm happy enough at this stage that it's slowing, I don't want ammonia from the brew, it's pitched at 5tsp so I'll leave it as is.

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Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Greg2013 on November 14, 2013, 09:26:27 AM
One of mine is bubbling like crazy and smells of rotten eggs, I used  Sn 9 in this.The other one is not showing any activity after a couple of days, I used ec 1118 in this. Thinking of re pitching a different yeast like maybe youngs dsuper wine yeast just to get it  going ?
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: mr hoppy on November 14, 2013, 11:09:34 PM
I pitched some Notty slurry into the 15l in the original container - think I got it completely wrong - currently sitting in freezing garage. I checked last night and its not definitely not fermenting. Will aerate, repitch with fresh Notty and yeast nutrient and bring inside tomorrow. Bit of a bollix but I've been out of town / crazy busy since it arrive so here's hoping.

The two I didn't pitch any yeast into are bubbling away (I used some campdens and nutrient - belatedly - for both) - one stinky, one ok  ;).

Did I hear there's no cure for stinky cider?

Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: mr hoppy on November 14, 2013, 11:15:22 PM
By the way, anyone ever repitched natural yeast from a cider into a beer?
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Eoin on November 14, 2013, 11:57:29 PM
Quote from: mr happy on November 14, 2013, 11:15:22 PM
By the way, anyone ever repitched natural yeast from a cider into a beer?


It'd make a quare lambic.

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Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Greg2013 on November 15, 2013, 09:41:28 AM
Quote from: Greg2013 on November 14, 2013, 09:26:27 AM
One of mine is bubbling like crazy and smells of rotten eggs, I used  Sn 9 in this.The other one is not showing any activity after a couple of days, I used ec 1118 in this. Thinking of re pitching a different yeast like maybe youngs dsuper wine yeast just to get it  going ?

Sorry i just checked back and this is wrong. I used EC-1118 in the 25 litre batch that is fizzing away and farting rotten eggs, i used the Vintners Harvest SN-9 in the 20 litre batch that does not seem to be doing anything, no airlock activity and looks dead when i popped the lid.

Should i pitch another packet of the SN-9 into this one ?
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Greg2013 on November 15, 2013, 01:39:15 PM
Quote from: Il Tubo on November 15, 2013, 11:07:17 AM
I would be thinking if you're going to re pitch, that maybe you should dose it with camden first. Not sure though.

Not sure why i would need to do that but mystery has been solved, Checked the gravity and its down to 1020 from 1046 and some slow fizzing going on, must have had a leak somewhere i reckon.
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Eoin on November 15, 2013, 01:53:30 PM
Gravities on both mine are around 1.005 or so. Taste is still tart, showing promise as it's not knock you down sour like a Lidl cider would be at this stage.

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Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Eoin on November 15, 2013, 02:07:30 PM
Quote from: Il Tubo on November 15, 2013, 02:02:50 PM
Quote from: Eoin on November 15, 2013, 01:53:30 PM
Gravities on both mine are around 1.005 or so. Taste is still tart, showing promise as it's not knock you down sour like a Lidl cider would be at this stage.

How does it smell?


Like fermenting stuff, a bit farty but more after dinner than after a feed of pints type farts. ;-)

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Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Dunkel on November 15, 2013, 02:15:46 PM

How does it smell?
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Like fermenting stuff, a bit farty but more after dinner than after a feed of pints type farts. ;-)
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'Tis sheer poetry!
Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: Eoin on November 15, 2013, 02:20:54 PM
Quote from: Dunkel on November 15, 2013, 02:15:46 PM

How does it smell?


Like fermenting stuff, a bit farty but more after dinner than after a feed of pints type farts. ;-)
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'Tis sheer poetry!
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Brought a tear to my eye, or was that the farts??

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Title: Re: Does your cider juice stink? If so what yeast, and did you use nutrient?
Post by: mr hoppy on November 15, 2013, 09:10:40 PM
Quote from: Eoin on November 14, 2013, 11:57:29 PM
Quote from: mr happy on November 14, 2013, 11:15:22 PM
By the way, anyone ever repitched natural yeast from a cider into a beer?


It'd make a quare lambic.

You never know. Supposedly Marstons ale yeast originally came from an apple skin.