Just throwing this out there (not sure if it belongs here or in the public section??) but would there be much interest in this sort of group buy?
We would be ordering 50 (a pallet to keep shipping costs down) pins, available in brown or black with your individual branding/brewery name/family crest printed for around 36 stg plus vat.
I will go into more details and price up taps, spare shivs and keystones, soft and hard pegs etc depending on interest.
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Pin 4.5gal
The industry standard pin, a fraction of the weight of a stainless steel pin, very robust and significantly less expensive
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Product Specifications:
Volume 20.5 Litre
Colour Brown or Black
Outer Dimensions 330mm
Height 380mm
Weight 1.90kg
Max Working Pressure 0.5bar
Quantity per pallet 50
I would be taking a good chunk of the 50 also but I'll wait and see what orders come through. Was chatting to the fella this morning and he also pointed out that the current lead time is 8 weeks.
Would the branding be done on a per Pin basis or a per pallet basis?
If the later then use the NHC Brand name and Logo?
Will
Per pin thankfully
:)
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We could do that on quite a few to make up numbers maybe? We dont need to order 50 like, it's just that a pallet is 50 and delivery is obviously priced per pallet.
Might be able to get it down a couple of quid although I would like a percentage of the sales to go to the NHC coffers also. This includes delivery to the North so I will personally be responsible for nationwide delivery included in the price.
Do you have a pic of one including a logo / crest?
I'll get on to him now!
Awesome thanks
I'm a big enough equipment geek to try a few!
As they will take 0.5 bar then they are not far off the spec of the 5 gallon pressure barrels that we use but as they are casks they would look Uber cool.
Ok thats fired the old grey matter:
Cooling Jackets?
Cold Fingers?
Taps and Spiles you've mentioned.
As they are plastic then the stillage is much less important:
Wooden Barrels need to unload the presure on the staves so you need a proper stillage to fit the casks.
Plastic: Just need to stop the casks from rolling!
Beer Engine Multibuy next?
Tube, did you have yours off a corny?
How did that work out?
Cara Eire mentioned this at the Brewday... twould be brilliant to have my family crest on own little barrell.... then the contents would be all mine, (like having my own tankard, only bigger) no sharing the nice brews with family drinkers (sons etc.) only leave the cat-pissy stuff for them ;D
Sounds like a plan i would buy into, especially if there's a 2-month lead-in.
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Tube, did you have yours off a corny?
How did that work out?
This main reason I am interested is because of the beer engine. And I am not joking you, cask is an art form that a lot of "pro" brewers can't even get right.
A group buy of beer engines would be a nice idea, *but* they are always a lot cheaper 2nd hand on ebay than they ever will be reconditioned from the manufacturer. Maybe looking out for a job lot on ebay is the way to go.
I floated this idea in the past elsewhere and I didn't get much buy in for a lot of 10 engines on ebay!
If anyone spots something I would be interested in a couple of casks and a beer engine! Or I could get 6 and have more than any bar in the city :)
I will ALWAYS have more than you, it's my sworn duty!! :p
QuoteQuoteQuoteBeer Engine Multibuy next?
Tube, did you have yours off a corny?
How did that work out?
This main reason I am interested is because of the beer engine. And I am not joking you, cask is an art form that a lot of "pro" brewers can't even get right.
A group buy of beer engines would be a nice idea, *but* they are always a lot cheaper 2nd hand on ebay than they ever will be reconditioned from the manufacturer. Maybe looking out for a job lot on ebay is the way to go.
I floated this idea in the past elsewhere and I didn't get much buy in for a lot of 10 engines on ebay!
If anyone spots something I would be interested in a couple of casks and a beer engine! Or I could get 6 and have more than any bar in the city :)
I'd be interested in a few if this happens
Still working on getting the images of printed pins for us, busy time of year for them I'd say
I'd probably be up for a couple of these as well.
I am interested in 2.
Now the missus can say 'nice pins' to me!
I will probably get one as well
The main reason I am interested is that everyone else is getting one and they seem rather cool and I don't want to feel I'm been left out.
I'll convince myself that I need it when I'm ordering it - but realistically - it will probably never be used.
So Decision time...
I'll take one - actually - make it two
Coolest paperweights EVER!
so im new to the brew :) and im wondering what is the difference to corny kegs and these, I know these are for long term maturation but can they be used as kegs after the time? or what would be the main benefit of these casks? :)
Cask IMO is a great way to store and serve beer. Beer in cask is unfiltered and unpasteurised and still contains a bit of yeast so undergoes further fermentation in the cask. Unlike the forced gassing in a corny, the slight sparkle from cask is from the co2 built up naturally from the maturation period.
From a homebrew perspective its alot cheaper than the whole corny setup as you can just clean out your cask and tap and replace the keystone at the front.
With regards the group buy in general, the initial idea of printed casks isn't feasible by this company only a high quality indented branding and possibly a small logo imprint (the company in question actually supply of the English micro brewery casks I have in the pub so I'll take a picture tonight to clarify what I mean). However, a second option is print to fit vinyl sticker which would be place either on the cask front or around the centre piece (belly) of the cask.
Thoughts?
What are the prices looking like? Still around the £36 GBP?
I think Vinyl stickers are the way to go, you could get whatever you wanted printed on there!
What are the estimated costs of equipment you'd need for a cask?
i.e. you need keystones, bungs, shives, taps... (I may have invented some of them!) little wooden wedges... (these are probably free or are they more complicated then they look!) how many spares do you need...
Can I bully you into doing a demo at the capital brewers some evening when the casks arrive??
Also I would like to declare my interest!
My thinking is to keep it simple.
Just interested in the pins and accessories.
Customisation does nothing for me.
Yeah pf course Padraic, i'll cover every possible angle, split keystones, cleaning, racking, venting etc etc
Price will stay the same hopefully as long as the stickers aren't ridiculously expensive. Think Fran Well cask sticker style!
QuoteYeah pf course Padraic, i'll cover every possible angle, split keystones, cleaning, racking, venting etc etc
Price will stay the same hopefully as long as the stickers aren't ridiculously expensive. Think Fran Well cask sticker style!
I've never seen a fran well sticker! Post us some pictures!
Will do man, i'm back in the pub on Friday!