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Professional brewery disinfectant up to 6 times cheaper than starsan

Started by brenmurph, August 15, 2013, 11:47:56 AM

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brenmurph

Hi all,

Followng up on discussions some weeks back, vincent from Biocel has offered great prices to the club on professional disinfectants and cleaners.

I'm interested in this:

2.   Peracetic Acid Based Disinfectants
Pack sizes 5 lt x 4 .

Hydrox 5 % is the product most commonly used by micro breweries & home brewing.
Recommended usage rate is 0.6 % v/v or 600 mls per 100 lt of water to give the FDA recommended level of 300 ppm for food plant sanitation.
Hydrox 5 is priced at € 34/ 5 lt.


Problem is they sell in 4x 5 litres boxes.

price for 5 litres is 41.82 including vat and shipping is 2 euros for 5 litres making it 43.82 for 5 litres.

this is 5 times cheaper than starsan and is the product that is used in milking parlours and breweries.

I am looking for  three people to take 5 litre container each so we can buy a full box. The 5 litres could then be safely distributes locally  into 5 x 1 litre batches ( following all safety procedures of course). That would equate to a 29.99 bottle of starsan for  8.80euro.

Comments welcome

irish_goat

I'd definitely be interested in a litre. Could we get some caustic while we're at it and get a reduction on price then?

NB: Peracetic Acid only has a 6 month shelf life.

Greg2013

Brenmurph are we going for the peracetic or the hydrox from the passage above?
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."  Gen. James 'Mad Dog' Mattis USMC(Ret.)

irish_goat

Quote from: deadman1972 on August 15, 2013, 11:53:48 AM
Brenmurph are we going for the peracetic or the hydrox from the passage above?

Hydrox is peracetic.

Greg2013

Quote from: irish_goat on August 15, 2013, 11:56:05 AM
Quote from: deadman1972 on August 15, 2013, 11:53:48 AM
Brenmurph are we going for the peracetic or the hydrox from the passage above?

Hydrox is peracetic.

TY Goat i assumed because it was called hydrox it had sodium hydroxide in it, bit misleading of a name.
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet."  Gen. James 'Mad Dog' Mattis USMC(Ret.)

irish_goat

Quote from: deadman1972 on August 15, 2013, 11:57:31 AM
TY Goat i assumed because it was called hydrox it had sodium hydroxide in it, bit misleading of a name.

I think it's the brand name just. http://www.hydroxlabs.com

brenmurph

Quote from: deadman1972 on August 15, 2013, 11:53:48 AM
Brenmurph are we going for the peracetic or the hydrox from the passage above?

hydrox is the brand name for the peracetic acid base product

brenmurph

Quote from: Il Tubo on August 15, 2013, 11:53:25 AM
Will you bring this up at the Liffey Brewers meet tonight? I have 3/4 of a bottle of Starsan left but I'm sure others aren't so lucky!

I havnt got product that why im suggestin a buy. minimum is a box with 4 x 5 ltr containers.

brenmurph

Quote from: deadman1972 on August 15, 2013, 11:57:31 AM
Quote from: irish_goat on August 15, 2013, 11:56:05 AM
Quote from: deadman1972 on August 15, 2013, 11:53:48 AM
Brenmurph are we going for the peracetic or the hydrox from the passage above?

Hydrox is peracetic.

TY Goat i assumed because it was called hydrox it had sodium hydroxide in it, bit misleading of a name.

its most likely a mix of hydroxide and (per)acetic acid...Modified  :)

brenmurph


brenmurph

it seems (and  im no chemical expert)  that peracetic relates to a cross between

1  hydrogen peroxide
2  Acetic acid

http://www.fileswap.com/dl/0HlAw7DArN/    click slow download to receive

I think ciderhead is familiar with this product maybe he wil comment

brenmurph


DEMPSEY

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brenmurph

c u later in lucan we chat .

My original idea is to get 3 people + myself....... let say one from liffey, one from south and one from north county to buy a 5-lte and share it around their community what ever way suits. A litre will go an awfull long way and with starsan at 30 euros a litre it should be worth the effort to have a brewery grade product for less than a tenner

Alex Lawes

How does this perform when used with HDPE regularly though?

I've only used it with steel. Will it be okay with our plastics?