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Title: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: admin on March 15, 2014, 03:16:05 PM
Will be doing mine on Monday probably.

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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: mcgrath on March 15, 2014, 03:40:11 PM
Mines bubbling away nicely..:-)
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on March 15, 2014, 04:03:30 PM
Going to be Monday before I get to it.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: DEMPSEY on March 15, 2014, 04:11:00 PM
Saruman said he is brewing today :)
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: mcgrath on March 15, 2014, 04:58:42 PM
Quote from: Tube on March 15, 2014, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on March 15, 2014, 03:40:11 PM
Mines bubbling away nicely..:-)

How does it look and smell?

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Looks normal. Couldn't upload pic. No smell I can get..
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Dodge on March 15, 2014, 05:01:55 PM
Just finished mine, and here is the results:

20l at 1.070  - little lower than expected but I've left it as is :(

we can keep this going to see how quantities stack up
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: mcgrath on March 16, 2014, 08:42:14 PM
So the top of mine looks like a gremlin reproducing....
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on March 16, 2014, 08:44:37 PM
Quote from: mcgrath on March 16, 2014, 08:42:14 PM
So the top of mine looks like a gremlin reproducing....

That's some pretty niche porn you're into...

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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: mcgrath on March 16, 2014, 08:56:06 PM
Haha! I tried to upload a pic but couldn't. Probably the porn filter kicking in..
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: mcgrath on March 16, 2014, 09:03:57 PM
Bad quality through plastic but maybe can make out the bubbles..
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on March 17, 2014, 03:34:31 PM
Almost done here... 1.071 Pow! 8)
Made a few extra litres to compare against the barrel aged stuff. It was a mighty full hopper and I maxed out my mash tun.
Some snaps of the brew day so far.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on March 17, 2014, 04:21:39 PM
Just realised I should have got 1.075. Feck! :(
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Dodge on March 19, 2014, 09:52:53 AM
I think once all have brewed and the fill list with quantity is posted, we can look at getting a date set. My intention is for all to brew and ferment in a stable condition. After a couple of weeks we all should of brewed and be ready to organise for me to empty barrel, rinse and collect everyone's beer for transfer into barrel.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on March 19, 2014, 10:04:24 AM
The smell from the fermenter is delicious. Temptation may get the better of me ;D
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on March 19, 2014, 01:15:51 PM
Mine was ok. Must be down to you fine milling. You did use wheat MALT didn't you?
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: mcgrath on March 19, 2014, 01:23:27 PM
Quote from: Tube on March 19, 2014, 12:54:45 PM
Very gummy mash as I milled some of it twice by accident (don't ask). Wort doesn't want to come out!
My run off was ok, but it was hard to clean mashtun afterwards. Very sticky.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on March 19, 2014, 02:25:48 PM
Just to clarify...the bag of malt I made up had all the malts except the Pale/Pilsener and the Munich.
With the exception of mcgrath who didn't need all malts so he got a 'special' customised bag.  :)
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Dodge on March 19, 2014, 03:23:10 PM
I just mashed what I got, thought it was the smallest mash ever! ::)

Only joking  :P
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on March 19, 2014, 03:30:54 PM
Funny guys!  ::)
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: mcgrath on March 19, 2014, 04:38:15 PM
Quote from: imark on March 19, 2014, 02:25:48 PM
With the exception of mcgrath who didn't need all malts so he got a 'special' customised bag.  :)
I thought I'd never get rid of that aromatic malt.. :-)
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: lordstilton on March 21, 2014, 11:19:55 AM
Did 26L yesterday.. Hit the gravity on the nose.. I now know why I don't use pellets.. Need to get sowing before using them again
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on March 21, 2014, 11:34:36 AM
So what's the current status? Please update:

Dodge - 20L @1.070
imark - 20L @1.071
Tube - 20L @1.075
mcgrath - 20L @??
lorstilton - 20L @1.075
Eoin - 40L @??
Dempsey - 20L @??
Saruman - 20L @??
Alex Lawes - 20L @??

Total - 200L @??
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: mcgrath on March 21, 2014, 01:10:19 PM

Dodge - 20L @1.070
imark - 20L @1.071
Tube - 20L @1.075
mcgrath - 20L @1.071
lorstilton - 20L @1.075
Eoin - 40L @??
Dempsey - 20L @??
Saruman - 20L @??
Alex Lawes - 20L @??

Total - 200L @??
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on March 21, 2014, 01:20:41 PM
I'm a bit behind on this, I have a few days off next weekend, so I should get it in then, better late than never.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: DEMPSEY on March 23, 2014, 07:59:23 PM


Dodge - 20L @1.070
imark - 20L @1.071
Tube - 20L @1.075
mcgrath - 20L @1.071
lorstilton - 20L @1.075
Eoin - 40L @??
Dempsey - 20L @1.074
Saruman - 20L @??
Alex Lawes - 20L @??

Total - 200L @??
Knocked this out today
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: DEMPSEY on March 24, 2014, 03:16:52 PM
Here she is bubbling away
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on March 24, 2014, 03:17:58 PM
Quote from: Tube on March 24, 2014, 02:31:49 PM
Should we have a contingency in case we're short on this one too?

I I get more ingredients I can get close to 60l and freeze the excess......

In fact I was thinking of doing another lambic brew and freezing that too for future top-ups.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: lordstilton on March 24, 2014, 04:04:20 PM
I've no problem doing another batch
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on March 24, 2014, 04:07:49 PM
Are we talking about contingency in volumes or individuals ability to brew on schedule? I would have thought the volume of the Oud Bruin barrel was not a risk since we already used it for our shitey stout!  :P
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on March 24, 2014, 04:09:08 PM
Quote from: imark on March 24, 2014, 04:07:49 PM
Are we talking about contingency in volumes or individuals ability to brew on schedule? I would have thought the volume of the Oud Bruin barrel was not a risk since we already used it for our shitey stout!  :P

I think Contingency in volumes.

I am planning my brew next weekend as I have Friday until Wednesday off.

I won't be doing any heavy lifting for the first few days, but I think I can be brewing by Monday. I hope at least.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on March 24, 2014, 04:58:14 PM
What's volume of the barrel in question?
Do we really need to allow a 10% contingency for already fermented beer being lost in transit?
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on March 24, 2014, 05:12:01 PM
Not in transit, but in ullage over time and as tubs says it's our ability to count that needs a check.

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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Dodge on March 29, 2014, 07:42:15 AM
Ok lads. How does Sat 12 look for organizing the pickup of beer? I'm working that night so my plan would be to pickup from a central point and then in the morning I will transfer to the barrel.

Anybody that hasn't brewed yet needs to get it on soon.

Once in the barrel I'll post up the barrel fill level status.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on March 29, 2014, 11:20:28 AM
Sounds good.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on March 29, 2014, 12:11:56 PM
I was misjudged on munich malt when it came time to brew so mine is a little low. Doubt it will impact the overall beer much.
Just took a whiff of the FV and it smells great.

Dodge - 20L @1.070
imark - 20L @1.071
Tube - 20L @1.075
mcgrath - 20L @1.071
lorstilton - 20L @1.075
Eoin - 40L @??
Dempsey - 20L @1.074
Saruman - 20L @1.065
Alex Lawes - 20L @??

Total - 200L @??
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: DEMPSEY on March 29, 2014, 12:57:05 PM
OK my me :)
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on March 29, 2014, 01:19:49 PM
Planning this brew Monday evening.

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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: DEMPSEY on April 05, 2014, 06:08:58 PM
Brewed and pitched on 23 marsh and have just checked. It is still bubbling away with a bubble every 8 seconds. :)
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 05, 2014, 07:58:39 PM
I'll be transferring mine tomorrow and getting another batch on for personal consumption and making kriek.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 05, 2014, 08:18:30 PM
Really! Mine was quiet after 2weeks. At this rate we'll need a bubbler for the barrel.
Out of curiosity, what is the current gravity reading?
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on April 05, 2014, 08:55:34 PM
Quote from: Tube on April 05, 2014, 08:22:25 PM
Dunno, I don't have a turkey baster, even a dodgy one.

Do you have an autosyphon? You can take the tube out and use the part with the non return valve like a wine thief by shaking it.

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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Dodge on April 05, 2014, 09:27:24 PM
Quote from: Tube on April 05, 2014, 08:22:25 PM
Dunno, I don't have a turkey baster, even a dodgy one.

Hey!!! Leave my name out if this :P

The main ferment will be done and the critters will be working away. Activity will also be the co2 coming out of solution and this can be a while after initial fermentation.

I've got a bung with an airlock ready for when I transfer to barrel.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 05, 2014, 09:54:20 PM
Good man Dodge
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Dodge on April 05, 2014, 10:53:09 PM
 ???!

Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on April 06, 2014, 02:21:17 AM
I ground my grains today, mashing tomorrow.

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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on April 06, 2014, 02:28:06 PM
Mash on, refractometer is great, already at ten Brix before the mash was at full temp.


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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on April 06, 2014, 05:46:40 PM
42l@18 brix that'll do.

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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on April 06, 2014, 06:09:51 PM
Quote from: Tube on April 06, 2014, 05:48:01 PM
1.074. Very good.

Considering that my Munich was ground and had seen a few birthdays, low efficiency and BIAB me hole...

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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 06, 2014, 06:20:59 PM
Quote from: Eoin on April 06, 2014, 06:09:51 PM
Considering that my Munich was ground and had seen a few birthdays
mmmmm...Eoin, you're really selling it to me  :o
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on April 06, 2014, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: Tube on April 06, 2014, 06:23:25 PM
Munich? You put munich in? Wasn't that in the little baggies we got from imark?

(http://whatsinmybaggie.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Whats-In-My-Baggie-Firefly-Festival-2013-11-640x426.jpg)

Nope the bags from Mark were specialist only, I phoned him the other day to check. I had 3kg of Munich so told him I was 600 short.... It appears we're a little shorter again.....??

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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on April 06, 2014, 06:35:07 PM
Did you think the bag was approaching 2.5kg that you had?

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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on April 06, 2014, 06:35:54 PM
Quote from: imark on April 06, 2014, 06:20:59 PM
Quote from: Eoin on April 06, 2014, 06:09:51 PM
Considering that my Munich was ground and had seen a few birthdays
mmmmm...Eoin, you're really selling it to me  :o

At least I had fuckin Munich in it....

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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 06, 2014, 06:37:37 PM
I did not put any base malt in the bags guys. I'd be surprised if you didn't add munich based on your OG Shane.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on April 06, 2014, 07:01:01 PM
Quote from: imark on April 06, 2014, 06:37:37 PM
I did not put any base malt in the bags guys. I'd be surprised if you didn't add munich based on your OG Shane.

Every other malt was fresh ground Mark.. Relax dude. A little old Munich won't sink it.

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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on April 06, 2014, 07:02:32 PM
Quote from: Tube on April 06, 2014, 06:49:16 PM
Swiss cheese brain. Can't remember anything other than I brewed it, as I have the proof sitting in a carboy in the kitchen.

Do you have a big bag of DME there for when you miss your numbers? I didn't use it today either Mark just in case you're suspicious :-D

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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 06, 2014, 07:30:22 PM
I never even considered that anybody would have spiked their beers with DME.   :o
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on April 06, 2014, 07:33:07 PM
Quote from: imark on April 06, 2014, 07:30:22 PM
I never even considered that anybody would have spiked their beers with DME.   :o

Good good

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Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 06, 2014, 07:48:48 PM
So are any of you boys doing another Oud Bruin and using the yeast cake? Be a shame to waste it!
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: lordstilton on April 06, 2014, 07:51:38 PM
Yep thats my plan...just have to sacrifice another fermenter to the sour gods
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 06, 2014, 07:53:22 PM
Quote from: lordstilton on April 06, 2014, 07:51:38 PM
Yep thats my plan...just have to sacrifice another fermenter to the sour gods
are you not going to just reuse the current fermenter? That's my plan anyway.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: lordstilton on April 06, 2014, 07:58:02 PM
How you going to transfer to Dodge? You going to have a dedicated sour corny?
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 06, 2014, 08:01:01 PM
A cornie is SS so no need to dedicate it. You might want to change the O-rings though. I've reused and not even changed the o-rings without a problem.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: lordstilton on April 06, 2014, 09:18:29 PM
Grand job.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on April 07, 2014, 08:05:22 AM
Quote from: Tube on April 06, 2014, 10:40:03 PM
Domestos gets rid of everything anyway. If it can make your jax shine, just imagine how clean your cornies will be.

I've my OB in glass, and for tranfer to dodge's I'll stick it in a corny. But Domestos* will be used liberally afterwards.

* Not be actual Domestos. Cheaper equivalent from Lidl may be used

Domestos has a surfactant which makes it pretty bad for this type of stuff as it makes it it harder to take off, cheaper thin bleach as you reference is a much better alternative, that said a quick wash with star san post bleaching removes all traces of chlorine smells.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 07, 2014, 08:54:58 AM
Thought I read bleach can cause damage to stainless. Maybe I'm wrong?

I wash mine with oxi and rinse with water. Then I give it a rinse with starsan.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: lordstilton on April 07, 2014, 12:36:45 PM
Anyone got some spare Munich? I can replace it next week. It's all I'm shy for doing another batch
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: lordstilton on April 07, 2014, 12:56:05 PM
Lars just got in touch to say he can sort me out.. I have everything else.. I can help you out if needed.. I'm in work tonight and tomorrow night so can drop around
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: lordstilton on April 07, 2014, 01:13:36 PM
So do you need any specialties?
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: lordstilton on April 07, 2014, 01:38:36 PM
I'll do you up a bag today or tomorrow so
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: lordstilton on April 07, 2014, 02:23:29 PM
Grand so.. It would be as handy to pick it up from you
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 07, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
Maybe we should organise an informal oud bruin competition for September meet up?
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 10, 2014, 12:09:44 PM
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9833819/Pictures/IMG_20140410_120417.JPG)

Dodge - 20L @1.070
imark - 20L @1.071 OG - 1.013 FG
Tube - 20L @1.075
mcgrath - 20L @1.071
lorstilton - 20L @1.075
Eoin - 40L @??
Dempsey - 20L @1.074
Saruman - 20L @1.065
Alex Lawes - 20L @??

Total - 200L @??
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: lordstilton on April 10, 2014, 01:42:12 PM
Initial taste Mark?  I'm making my second batch today.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 10, 2014, 02:44:19 PM
Tastes fine for something just out of fermenter. No off flavours. Can get the lactic acid but not overly pronounced. Hopefully will develop further with some more time and warmer weather.
I've got 5L extra that won't go in the barrel. Will be interesting to compare later.

What recipe did you follow for your second one? I've another Oud Bruin in using the same culture but different recipe.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Eoin on April 10, 2014, 03:01:38 PM
Quote from: Tube on April 10, 2014, 02:53:57 PM
Dodge - 20L @1.070
imark - 20L @1.071 OG - 1.013 FG
Tube - 20L @1.075 - 1.020 FG (suspect I didn't aerate enough, taste fine tho)
mcgrath - 20L @1.071
lorstilton - 20L @1.075
Eoin - 42L @1.074
Dempsey - 20L @1.074
Saruman - 20L @1.065
Alex Lawes - 20L @??
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: lordstilton on April 10, 2014, 03:02:40 PM
Same one Mark.. I ran out of special B.. So had to sub it with dark crystal.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 10, 2014, 04:33:01 PM
I entered the correct culture on beersmith and it predicted 1.016 as OG. My OG was a few points low in the first place.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: imark on April 10, 2014, 04:48:50 PM
Rogers original recipe had FG as ~4 plato (~1.016) from memory.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: lordstilton on April 10, 2014, 09:14:26 PM
Just under 19 L gone into the gerry can. My FG was 1 point off marks.  Got another 20 L gone onto the trub.

Dodge - 20L @1.070
imark - 20L @1.071 OG - 1.013 FG
Tube - 20L @1.075 - 1.022 FG
mcgrath - 20L @1.071
lorstilton - 20L @1.075 - 1.014 FG
Eoin - 40L @??
Dempsey - 20L @1.074
Saruman - 20L @1.065
Alex Lawes - 20L @??
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: nigel_c on April 11, 2014, 11:07:40 AM
What temp are you guys going to leave the barrel at home the bugs go in?
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: nigel_c on April 11, 2014, 11:14:52 AM
Right. I have my Flanders red sitting about 2 months now at about 18-20. First taste is no sourness only brett. I hooked up a emp controller and brew belt and have it sitting around 25 now. I pitched a fresh tube of lacto as well. Had Belgian sour mix in already but had no signs of sour. Anyway the increase in temp has kicked it off again. Will report back in a few months. 
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: nigel_c on April 11, 2014, 12:40:29 PM
If where you plan on stoping has power an electric blanket could be an option. Barrel sized brew belt.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: DEMPSEY on April 14, 2014, 01:52:00 PM
Dodge - 20L @1.070
imark - 20L @1.071 OG - 1.013 FG
Tube - 20L @1.075 - 1.022 FG
mcgrath - 20L @1.071
lorstilton - 20L @1.075 - 1.014 FG
Eoin - 40L @??
Dempsey - 20L @1.074  -  1019 FG
Saruman - 20L @1.065
Alex Lawes - 20L @??

Interesting that some of you got a few more points out of your wort than others.
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: lordstilton on April 14, 2014, 03:18:35 PM
Mine could of dropped another point judging by the pressure in the jerry can by the time I got it to Tube
Title: Re: Anyone oud bruining today?
Post by: Alex Lawes on April 14, 2014, 03:44:59 PM
Dodge - 20L @1.070
imark - 20L @1.071 OG - 1.013 FG
Tube - 20L @1.075 - 1.022 FG
mcgrath - 20L @1.071
lorstilton - 20L @1.075 - 1.014 FG
Eoin - 40L @??
Dempsey - 20L @1.074  -  1019 FG
Saruman - 20L @1.065
Alex Lawes - 20L @1.066