Rebellious Lambic - AKA Old English October Beer...

[johnrm]

Fat tyre is a Belgian of sorts; inspired by a bicycle trip around Belgium at least.
Very tasty too...

225l of something that mr_happy likes is going to make mr_happy, um, happy.

We need to track the barrel down to start.
Wheres that Black fella?

[Taf]

I've had fat tyre before, and thought it was only okay, but  i'm just not very into the regular belgiums.  Might be persuaded on the strong English ale though. The barrel has BIPA in it, but not for much longer, so it will available soon enough.

[Garry]

I'd rather get the barrel with the BIPA still in it

[johnrm]

I was thinking the same thing.
I don't think Sam would be on for that though!

Talking to Sam a while ago.
Right now its 3/4 full with Black IPA.
This will empty over the next 2 weeks.
(Heads up - Look forward to a few casks of this yumminess!)
Sam will keep it wet and add campden until we pick it up.
Garry, have you still got space for this?

Lets get hands up and see who's in.
I suggest we brew ASAP.
Once fermentated, rack to secondary to minimise trub rising in transit.
Get the Barrel and Contributors to Garrys and fill.

Right now we need to...
Decide a recipe.
Get ingredients.
Brew.

Sam says he is in for 23L
I'll populate the list with who I believe is in at this point seeing as ye eejits all have opinions but don't seem to commit  :

1. johnrm
2. taf
3. Sam
4. Dara (Just talking to him)
5. mr_happy
6. Garry
7.
8.
9.
10. johnrm (2nd batch if short bodies)

[Taf]

Is there another Sam that I am not aware of?

[johnrm]

You're sharp tonight Billy!
Edited.

[Garry]

I have the space. I just need to tidy the garage. This would be the "kick in the hole" I need.

[johnrm]

Good man Garry!
The bottom of the barrel will ideally need to be Corney height.
Have you some Cavity Blocks you can sit it on?
For the fill, a chair on a table should give us adequate height.
Autosyphon in, Autosyphon out, none of that messing with pumps.

[LordEoin]

1. johnrm
2. taf
3. Sam
4. Dara (Just talking to him)
5. mr_happy
6. Garry
7. LordEoin
8.
9.
10. johnrm (2nd batch if short bodies)

[mr hoppy]

I won't be able to brew for the next few weeks, hope that won't be a problem.

In terms of a beer to brew I think an October beer would  be a pretty cool idea in it's own right, but also  because it would pick up some brett over time  Also, when these beers were sold commerically in the early 19th century they were called pale stouts!

You mentioned the J.W. Lees Harvest Ale recipe from the Mitch Steele book previously, Garry - there's a version in the Gordon Strong book as well, which is designed to mature a bit quicker.

[mr hoppy]

Hey, we could also chop it up, use it to smoke a couple of tonnes of wheat malt and make so much gratzer you could fill a swimming pool.

[johnrm]

200l will be easier to fill!

Recipe from Radical Brewing is pretty simple...
Yield: 19l with OG of 1.088 (Add 5l for boil off and losses)
ABV 7.3-8.4
74 IBU

4.5kg Maris Otter (Subbing MCI Pale) 100%
Mash in 67C
Mash out 75.5C

90min 85g EKG 5%
30min 57g EKG 5%
0min 57g EKG 5%

Note: 90min boil

I think WLP002...
http://www.whitelabs.com/yeast/wlp002-english-ale-yeast
Mixed results with flavour, but we're looking at aging this until Nov. so hopefully pick up some character from the Barrel.

[Garry]

What about dry hopping the barrel? According to Mitch Steele, early 20th century English IPAs were dry hopped with 0.25 to 0.5 pounds per bbl.

[johnrm]

We could do if we had more access to the inside of the Barrel.
I vote we send Garry in to clean out the hops.

[Garry]

Is this going to be the barrels last beer? If we used pellets for dry hopping they should wash it ok?