Ive gone mad with chugger pump - ? herms

[Laughgov]

Would they combine shipping on the thermopots? I'm also looking at the smaller pot for Herms. Have the coil from brewpi but have yet to buy/build a hlt.

Ill ask no problems

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Brew porn

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[Leann ull]

Ive done a few of these now for others but all local Cavans a bit far.
I'm still convinced small pot is way to go, allows me boil another 50L for sparge or next brew without me having to follow mash temperatures in HLT or waiting for a small quantity to come up to temp again for herms after initial Mash Water Vol

[Laughgov]

I agree ch I'm sold. Going for it

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[Leann ull]

post pics and we can walk you through it.

[Laughgov]

Sound. Ill do when I get bits together.  Thank you so much

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[Shanna]

For the fitting of the element. Measure twice. Feed is Offset not central.
Where you based?
Are you handy? I earthed my pot with a bolt in the bottom and wire attached

I'm based in Cavan
Not to handy but sure give it a go - I know a lad who is handy with steel

pot Bergland got back to me 1x 10465 - Thermo pot with lid 6 litre 25x25cm - 33,90 EUR


+ shipping fees IRL - 23,90 EUR

= 57,80 EUR

Not too bad. I'm seriously tempted
bits for PID circuit - circa 80 Euro with delivery and all
coil id imagine say circa 100(still waiting back as prophesied by CH)

that's still grand hopefully would be done for under 250 yoyo

but

Keep an eye on Aldi & Lidl they do the cheap tea urns every now and again. Bought a stainless steel coil from home brew west - http://www.homebrewwest.ie/stainless-steel-immersion-wort-chiller-12mm-diameter-3921-p.asp

You might want to consider by some flexible coppe & winding one yourself.

Shanna

see I've got a copper pipe from old coiled chiller already

but

Molc setup with keg is interesting as this is close to what I've got already in HLT - I presume that it is just add PID setup as per Shanna post but to HLT as MOLC (albeit not as efficient CH) to that is also an option

I'm confused. I love the idea of the little pot with small coil it looks efficient as hell.

Some craic though. The comradery is fantastic

I don't know which one to do  - the good thing is I don't think there is too wrong of an answer. (actually, maybe there is, probably is actually........).

See if they will do cheaper shipping to Northern Ireland & get parcel motel.

Shanna

[Shanna]

Ive done a few of these now for others but all local Cavans a bit far.
I'm still convinced small pot is way to go, allows me boil another 50L for sparge or next brew without me having to follow mash temperatures in HLT or waiting for a small quantity to come up to temp again for herms after initial Mash Water Vol

You must be doing 10 gallon batches if your mashing 40 ltr & sparging 50 ltr water quantities. Average Joe does not make 50 ltr batches for friends, family, shebeen etc A larger pot & coil means you loose some efficiency but that just means you have to wait a little longer to sparge. Both Molc & I have sufficient power in our HLT (5.5KW & 4KW respectively) to not have to use the herms to heat water for sparge. One thing I have started to do however is to combine the two at the start of the heating of strike water to flush everything pump, fittings, herms coil etc to get everything up to temp. This also allows me to take a few minutes off the time taken to heat the strike water by combining the power of the herms & the HLT heating elements. This has the added advantage that the strike water I'd also properly mixed.

While I won't argue about smaller being more efficient it's also much more expensive as those pots are pretty pricey. I wonder whether a small stainless steel pot from Ikea or the like might do the job just as well. Copper coils are more efficient & cheaper than stainless & can be formed+welded more easily than stainless steel. Downside of copper is that they corrode & for a herms coil would be harder to clean. You could use a 4" waving pipe would give you a perfect tight turn.

Shanna

[Leann ull]

Depends of your grain to water ratio, I do typically 4 so 25l+ and yeah I also do 55l batches as well or high gravity beers and have had 14.5kgs mashing and you need the elbow room and full hlt to accommodate that, just gives more flexibility, as above you could do a setup for 100.
I moved away from copper for corrosion reasons, still have a chiller in cooper but running acidic wort through coil for an hour under pressure is different.
For hlt with 5.5kw element  And I don't have 32amp ring main in shed   

Lots of ways to cook the chicken, most important thing about herms or any recirc system is the absolute control it gives to mash temp and ability to brew better more consistent beer

[Laughgov]

See if they will do cheaper shipping to Northern Ireland & get parcel motel.

Shanna

I here you only thing is it would likely be oversized box which would mean an additional 10 euro with Nightline
I will ask though
Bergland said that if I was going for two shipping is the same and I think dcalnan is interested in one so may also be an option as shipping would be halved - parcel motel could be worth the gamble - ill email

Thanks for the advise.

[molc]

Yeah it all just comes down to process and how you use it. You might save on the cost of a pot, but then the coil in the HLT needs to be pretty beefy.

For big batches, I actually fill the HLT and mash tun with the final water volumes, then start recirculating. This heats up the water in both to my target temp and then I add the grain and let it all rip as usual.

[Laughgov]

See if they will do cheaper shipping to Northern Ireland & get parcel motel.

Shanna

I here you only thing is it would likely be oversized box which would mean an additional 10 euro with Nightline
I will ask though
Bergland said that if I was going for two shipping is the same and I think dcalnan is interested in one so may also be an option as shipping would be halved - parcel motel could be worth the gamble - ill email

Thanks for the advise.

11.90 from NI with Parcel motel - plus 3.95 fee for motel. nice work. If over sized usually only a 10 to get delivered I think
and myself and dcalnan going halfers win win


Thanks Shanna

[Shanna]

See if they will do cheaper shipping to Northern Ireland & get parcel motel.

Shanna

I here you only thing is it would likely be oversized box which would mean an additional 10 euro with Nightline
I will ask though
Bergland said that if I was going for two shipping is the same and I think dcalnan is interested in one so may also be an option as shipping would be halved - parcel motel could be worth the gamble - ill email

Thanks for the advise.

11.90 from NI with Parcel motel - plus 3.95 fee for motel. nice work. If over sized usually only a 10 to get delivered I think
and myself and dcalnan going halfers win win


Thanks Shanna

all part of the free members benefits

[Shanna]

Depends of your grain to water ratio, I do typically 4 so 25l+ and yeah I also do 55l batches as well or high gravity beers and have had 14.5kgs mashing and you need the elbow room and full hlt to accommodate that, just gives more flexibility, as above you could do a setup for 100.
I moved away from copper for corrosion reasons, still have a chiller in cooper but running acidic wort through coil for an hour under pressure is different.
For hlt with 5.5kw element  And I don't have 32amp ring main in shed   

Lots of ways to cook the chicken, most important thing about herms or any recirc system is the absolute control it gives to mash temp and ability to brew better more consistent beer

Are you running that 3kw element off a 16amp circuit? I agree with stainless steel as being the better approach for the herms coil for cleanliness & strength of the material. Is that brauland pot pressurised? If so it would be like a mini pressure cooker.

Shanna