Irish beer Clone Recipes?

[brenmurph]

Happened by it a year ago  I think it was a link from googling beer courses, just popped up on a forum.  If anyone has software that may play around the reverse of the page ( can be seen faint) seems to have brewing protocol as well. The ingredients alone as I said suggest potentially a really nice brew Styrian (hallertau) Im presuming that means early season styrian?

Caramel do ye reckon thats liquid toffee or referring to "caramel" malt  remering its a recipe from 50 years ago?

[AdeFlesk]

Harp lager  clone 

9.5 lb British 2-row lager malt
10 oz 10°L crystal malt

mashed for 90 min

90 min boil
2 oz Hallertau Hersbrucker at 60 min
0.5 oz Hallertau Hersbrucker at 15 min
0.5 oz Saaz at 15 min
0.25 oz Hallertau Hersbrucker at 5 min
0.25 oz Saaz at 5 min

Wyeast 2206 (Bavarian Lager Yeast) at 8-11°C
and then lager for a month, begin lagering at 7°C and slowly decrease the temperature to 1°C over 2 week period. Diactyl rest at 15°C after lagering is complete.

[AdeFlesk]

And then from Barclay Perkins

http://barclayperkins.blogspot.ie/2009/09/lets-brew-wednesday-1962-harp-lager.html

this might give more incite

[AdeFlesk]

And to finish it all off  on harp from me

http://lager-frenzy.com/2009/09/30/the-debt-lager-owes-to-guinness/

[brenmurph]

Well Adeflesk, thanks a million, what wonderful info and links.

Lads this could be a new part of our club, revising old master brews / historic brews, I'm certainly going to try the old Harp recipe, maybe tomorrow.

Adeflesk thanks a million, where u from and whats ur real name? 

[AdeFlesk]

Hi there down in Killarney Co kerry and I have an unusual name Adrian Corsini,   remember it only takes one italian to give you a name like that 
love trawling the internet for information,  my latest find is chop and brew, channel on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCsijuRpPR8
sorry for going off topic

[brenmurph]

Harp lager  clone 

9.5 lb British 2-row lager malt
10 oz 10°L crystal malt

mashed for 90 min

90 min boil
2 oz Hallertau Hersbrucker at 60 min
0.5 oz Hallertau Hersbrucker at 15 min
0.5 oz Saaz at 15 min
0.25 oz Hallertau Hersbrucker at 5 min
0.25 oz Saaz at 5 min

Wyeast 2206 (Bavarian Lager Yeast) at 8-11°C
and then lager for a month, begin lagering at 7°C and slowly decrease the temperature to 1°C over 2 week period. Diactyl rest at 15°C after lagering is complete.

For the Harp clone, any idea why would we use hersbruker rather then styrian goldings as in in the original recipe? Arnt these hops quite different to each other?

[AdeFlesk]

The recipe  you posted up was listed 1961,  looks like they changed it as in the log book it clearly states Hallertauer and Saaz hops.
They were going for more of an American style then German.  The recipe I posted first is from a book called Clone brews.

[Bubbles]

Just dragging this up as I've been thinking about doing some clones recently..

The Irish micros don't seem to be very forthcoming with their recipes, and I think it's a rather peculiar stance they have. Most of them give no indication about IBUs, hop varieties, grain varieties - either on the bottle or on the website. Contrast this with the American craft breweries. Look at the huge names in craft beer that are openly handing over their recipes to the likes of Jamil Zainasheff and the Brewing Network in order for them to be cloned. Wychwood, Fullers, Stone, Rogue to name just a few.

I've also heard tales of homebrewers approaching Irish micro brewers for recipes and being told to flip off.

[nigel_c]

Probably someone who didn't know him asked Cuilan for a recipe. Would expect a more strongly worded response.

[Eoin]

I'd be curious if anyone had a recipe that approaches Celebration stout, the 7% version as I believe there is also a 10% version which I haven't tried.

[Bubbles]

Those interested in cloning some Whitewater recipes should take a look at the following threads on Jim's. In particular, there's a homebrewer from Antrim called Jymbo who's spent a lot of time attempting to clone some of these beers.

Clotworthy Dobbin
http://www.jimsbeerkit.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41155
http://www.jimsbeerkit.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=25198
http://www.jimsbeerkit.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6859&start=0

Belfast Ale
http://www.jimsbeerkit.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=15279
http://www.jimsbeerkit.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23158

I'm more interested in getting a clone recipe for the Copperhead, such a nice beer.

[delzep]

I'd be curious if anyone had a recipe that approaches Celebration stout, the 7% version as I believe there is also a 10% version which I haven't tried.

Porterhouse? The 10% was a once off in 2006 to celebrate their 10th anniversary. I still have a bottle of it 

[Chris]

This might be an idea, if anyone has what they believe to be an accurate clone, they post the recipe. Two of the homebrew clubs choose to brew that recipe and produce it for a tasting at one of the meets feedback posted on the site and if it is good from both clubs it gets accepted. This would mean you could get feedback on approx 4 recipes per month if each club does one recipe.

[Eoin]

I'd be curious if anyone had a recipe that approaches Celebration stout, the 7% version as I believe there is also a 10% version which I haven't tried.

Porterhouse? The 10% was a once off in 2006 to celebrate their 10th anniversary. I still have a bottle of it 

Yeah porterhouse, no recipes about?