Recipe for first lager

[mr hoppy]

I hear you on the one pack. Is it much different to wlp830, I'd heard they were the same yeast?

If you've not tried it wlp800 is brilliant if you're prepared to be (very) patient and it seems to be pretty hardy. I've repitched it 5 times since last April with good results.

[Ciderhead]

I tried it years ago under less than ideal conditions and it turned out shite, what did I expect!,
You've incentivised for me to given it a go again.
I was looking to do an urquell clone at some point in any case
What's it like for diacetyl? Ever had wurthers original?

[mr hoppy]

There's a reason Bohemian Pilsener is about the only style where the BJCP say diacetyl is acceptable. It was only when I home brewed with WLP800 that I realised how much diacetyl flavour PU has. It just won't go away even if you use the right temps and do a d-rest.

I bottle condition and PU fermented beers are literally undrinkable (versus green ale) because of the diacetyl from the carbonation sugar for weeks after bottling, but it's like the real ale of lager yeast and if you give it time (lots of time) it's hardy and it makes tasty beer.

[Ciderhead]

And I thought it was just me

[mr hoppy]

I guess you don't much like PU then?

Seriously though, it's not like the German stuff but after drinking homebrewed Czech lager for awhile I bought a bottle of Spaten and I had to pour to "over-boiled brocolli" beer down the drain.

[Ciderhead]

I must of been one of those ejits that was tasting it but didn't notice.
I am going to get a bottle tomorrow and remind myself.

[mr hoppy]

I never noticed either til I was making it meself and I had a PU when I was out for a few beers with work and I thought, feck that tastes like my homebrew and  now I know why.

[Ciderhead]

 

[Ciderhead]

Do you do 60 or 90 min boils?

[mr hoppy]

90. No question.

[mr hoppy]

Although 90 minutes is nothing when you are looking at the same freakin beer with the same krausen in your beer fridge saying "I'm not going anywhere" 5 weeks later.

[Ciderhead]

But not 90 min hop additions right?

[Ciderhead]

Although 90 minutes is nothing when you are looking at the same freakin beer with the same krausen in your beer fridge saying "I'm not going anywhere" 5 weeks later.

Do you not secondary?

[mr hoppy]

yep, after that, for a month or two. Thank god for ale yeasts!

[mr hoppy]

I'm not joking wlp800 takes for ever. I usually do a d-rest with it - more to get it to finish than anything, but whereas with wlp833 I had a beer in the bottle after 6 weeks, 3 months is more the norm for wlp800. To be fair though  I reckon it's (probably?) worth it.