Recipe for first lager

[Ciderhead]

Oh Christ I better do my homework with it so

[mr hoppy]

For a pils no hops until 60 mins and then as Jamil says Saaz, Saaz, Saaz, Saaz, -> 40 IBUs, say for 20l @3.5% AA -> 50g @ 60 mins & 60g @ 30  mins, 25g @ 15 min & 25g more @ 0 mins. Lager for hop lovers - and Saaz are dirt cheap now thanks to hipster hops!

For a dark lager like this 90 mins+ is ok ->

[Ciderhead]

Just reading about 90 day conditioning at Budvar with Wlp800
Probably why even though I keep bees I don't do mead!

[mr hoppy]

I had no idea what I was signing up for, Ciderhead! The first time I used it I was looking at it a month later going what the f@@@ has gone wrong, but it was fine. Though, it really helps to warm it up a bit after 3 or 4 weeks if it's in no rush.

The upside is that my yeast ranching is seriously crappy but wlp800 seems to come good every time (unlike some others).

[mr hoppy]

The last brew i did i conditioned for 35 days, but the previous one was for 2 months. I reckon it definitely makes a difference and given that all commercial lagers are conditioned for about 5 minutes it really is a cool homebrew thing to do, but you'd want to have something else on tap.

[Ciderhead]

I knew that shark would be circling smelling blood 

[mr hoppy]

I will be and I've some I top cropped a while back if you're interested.

[Ciderhead]

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[DEMPSEY]

I have found this site very good as a source.
http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php?title=Fermenting_Lagers

[Ciderhead]

I have found this site very good as a source.
http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php?title=Fermenting_Lagers

Great minds think alike Dempsey post #16 above

[DEMPSEY]

Missed that,but hey it is a good reference source for Lagering and is worth saying it twice

[Ciderhead]

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[mr hoppy]

I will be and I've some I top cropped a while back if you're interested.

Scooore!

I don't have any yeast to give you in exchange at the moment that I would trust, tho I will soon have wlp858 to share?

That's no problem. I'd be confident enough to reuse what I have myself but I'd definitely do a starter first to be sure.

[Ciderhead]

I have found this site very good as a source.
http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php?title=Fermenting_Lagers

Great minds think alike Dempsey post #16 above

Far too much verbage. If I wanted to read War & Peace I would...

We have a wiki too. Someone needs to write an article that doesn't make your finger tips go numb.

Lager and pilsner conditioning is a complex business

[mr hoppy]

He's pretty good on water testing as well and I thought his decoction mashing videos are pretty helpful.