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Title: Barrel plans
Post by: admin on October 29, 2013, 12:33:12 PM
Time to start thinking about emptying I reckon, and also to what we want to do next. I'm all on for a barley wine next.

1. Tube 1 x 20L --- Wed 1st May --- 1.087
2A. Dodge 1 x 20L --- Fri 3rd May --- 1.094
2B. Dodge 1 x 20L --- Fri 10th May --- 1.092
3. CARA 1 x 20L --- Tue 7th May --- 1.082
4. Snuff 1 x 20L --- Fri 3rd May --- 1.080
5. Lordstilton 1 x 20L --- Sat 4th May ---1.084
6. brenmurph 1 x 20L --- Sun 5th May --- 1.082
7. Saruman 1 x 20L -- Sun 19th May -- 10.77
8. McGrath 1 x 20L --- Wed 1st May --- 1.087
9. imark 1 x 20L --- Sun 5th May --- 1.083

Might empty around the end of November? Easiest thing is to empty into bottling buckets -- I reckon we should get maybe 16L back each (32L for Dodge) which you can't see if we empty into cornies.
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: Dodge on October 30, 2013, 12:37:30 AM
Sounds like a good idea. To be honest if I got a full cornie for myself I'd like to give the rest of the quota whatever it is as a x-mas gift to others that didn't participate in the barrel project.

I could also force carb it and bottle. With a nice label it could be given to new Liffey members.

I like the idea of doing a barley wine so I'm in
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: lordstilton on October 30, 2013, 12:55:24 PM
Nice Idea Dodge...I'm in for the barley wine too
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: imark on October 30, 2013, 09:16:51 PM
I'm game for it. Do we have q tried and trusted barley wine recipe we plan to base it on?
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: delzep on October 30, 2013, 09:31:59 PM
Haven't yis all got a load of apple juice coming your way....
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: imark on October 30, 2013, 09:45:31 PM
Belgian dark strong ale with a hint of Bret? Or Maybe a Flanders brown? A spontaneous fermentation with Liffey yeast might be a big gamble and a gueuze would be a blend so would be more of a 5yr plan.
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: imark on October 30, 2013, 10:05:41 PM
Once we go sour theres no going back!

We'd need to barrel one each year and blend after a few years investment. Could we manage multiple barrels?

Something I intend to try at some point anyway on a 50L scale.

If we go this route:
In Belgium lambics are brewed between Nov and march so it is something we could test on small batches now and put in barrel by March if successful/acceptable.

In the meantime we could get something in barrel for 3months. Perhaps a porter.
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: imark on October 30, 2013, 11:23:29 PM
I could pop in for an hour and a coffee
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: delzep on October 31, 2013, 05:21:04 AM
Be after 8 when I get home this evening lad
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: delzep on October 31, 2013, 10:37:30 AM
I won't be in tomorrow evening but you can collect the hops from the missus if you like
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: delzep on October 31, 2013, 12:39:36 PM
Whiskey beers aren't really my thing. The odd bottle here and there is ok but 20 litres doesn't sound too appealing to be honest
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on October 31, 2013, 02:18:58 PM
I'm free the first and last weekend of November, though we can always do it on a week night too.
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: imark on October 31, 2013, 03:42:09 PM
Is there likely to be much of a whiskey flavour on the next batch? I presume it's going to be mostly gone.
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on October 31, 2013, 03:45:36 PM
Probably not as much but some will be there and at the very least the oak will do its thing.

By the way, the Capital Brewers sample was out the other night. To me it tasted like a thick prune syrup but one that had lost most of its prune flavour and was a little bit solventy. It didn't taste like beer to me at all.  ;)
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: imark on October 31, 2013, 03:53:03 PM
hoho...controversial!  ;)

I thought the last sample of ours was a little too much on the whiskey side of things tbh. I imagine that it wont mellow out (as it's whiskey) the beer will probably lose flavour before the whiskey does. Still, when it's carbonated and chilled a little it might be a different proposition.
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on October 31, 2013, 04:32:44 PM
Yeah, I just hope ours doesn't turn out like theirs. That said, it might have been just me as they didn't seem to think anything was wrong.
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: imark on October 31, 2013, 06:53:11 PM
Good stuff. I think that gives us more options.
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: delzep on October 31, 2013, 08:14:39 PM
Whats an example of a good commercial oak beer?
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: Dodge on October 31, 2013, 11:34:19 PM
I'd eventually like to be apart of some sour beers barrel aged but as said once we turn we can't go back.

There are the other styles that could work well like porter or Scottish ale. Either way I love working with the idea so if any info needed let me know.

Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: Dodge on November 01, 2013, 12:14:28 AM
Either way sounds good!
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: CARA on November 02, 2013, 08:31:00 PM
Quote from: delzep on October 31, 2013, 08:14:39 PM
Whats an example of a good commercial oak beer?

Petrus is my drink of choice at the mo-3 something in Sweenys offy, bootiful little pale Belgian beauty
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: imark on November 03, 2013, 04:41:55 PM
Quote from: Il Tubo on November 02, 2013, 08:28:51 PM
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Who is around Monday or Tuesday for a quick hook up to decide what beer of epicness we put in the barrel next?

I'll try to get down for an hour.
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: imark on November 03, 2013, 05:08:08 PM
9.30 the earliest I can do tomorrow.
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: DEMPSEY on November 03, 2013, 06:44:27 PM
Can I come :-*
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: imark on November 04, 2013, 05:51:40 PM
Sure you can :-D

I'll be there at 9.30. If there's a change of plan text or call me.
Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: Eoin on November 05, 2013, 04:55:33 PM
I'd like to get in on a lambic brew, it could be epic. I'd be able to do 50l or so. Turbid mash could be cool too. Who's formulating the recipe?

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Title: Re: Barrel plans
Post by: DEMPSEY on November 06, 2013, 02:04:48 PM
What about this beer for the barrel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_uC2VwVdkg#t=295