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Title: Argon supply needed
Post by: alealex on November 29, 2013, 04:35:58 PM
Looking for cylinder of argon or refill as cheap as possible.
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: Ciderhead on November 29, 2013, 04:49:09 PM
You can't put that in beeer ??? :) :)
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: alealex on November 29, 2013, 05:29:46 PM
Quote from: CH on November 29, 2013, 04:49:09 PM
You can't put that in beeer ??? :) :)
You can, but you won't drink it  :P
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: Ciderhead on November 29, 2013, 05:33:03 PM
Yeah just checked out you can use it as a food preservative and they use it to kill chickens!!
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: alealex on November 29, 2013, 05:46:41 PM
Got me, I'll be killing chickens with it. You mean they use it in gas chambers or use it kill'em with the pressure somehow?  :-\ :)
In wine making, argon is used to top-off barrels to avoid the aerial oxidation of ethanol to acetic acid during the aging process.
And made by distillation, interesting.
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: Ciderhead on November 29, 2013, 05:51:22 PM
Murderer!  ??? ??? ;D

From WIKI
Argon is an asphyxiant in the poultry industry, either for mass culling following disease outbreaks, or as a means of slaughter more humane than the electric bath. Argon's relatively high density causes it to remain close to the ground during gassing. Its non-reactive nature makes it suitable in a food product, and since it replaces oxygen within the dead bird, argon also enhances shelf life.

Well I didn't know that
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: alealex on November 29, 2013, 05:54:40 PM
 ;D ;D ;D  humanely he says

STOP MAKING JOKES LADS I NEED ARGON
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: Ciderhead on November 29, 2013, 05:56:36 PM
What a waste of gas I just wring their necks and if done properly its quick and cheap, don't ask me to do 5000 tho ???
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: Ciderhead on November 29, 2013, 05:58:37 PM
Quote from: iTube on November 29, 2013, 05:56:01 PM
Will_D has some. I'm sure he'll be along any minute!

Nope he's in the club till 7!

Alex, how much do you need? any welding gas supplier will have it
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: Ciderhead on November 29, 2013, 06:01:23 PM
Quote from: alealex on November 29, 2013, 05:54:40 PM
STOP MAKING JOKES LADS I NEED ARGON

You are in the wrong place for that, humour us even tho none of us are funny, it will be less painful for everyone.
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: Damofto on November 29, 2013, 06:36:24 PM
These guys do Argon

http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/category&path=406_637
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: alealex on November 29, 2013, 06:58:58 PM
I was thinking there might be some welders among us that would point me at some cheaper sources, thanks a ton for help.
I've found argon at hobbyweld.co.uk at similar prices, but still find it pricey. It's similar as with nitro from boc - they don't want to deal with the public but if they eventually do - they will empty your pockets  :)
Hope fully Will will come to the rescue  :P
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: DEMPSEY on November 29, 2013, 08:12:12 PM
Quote from: CH on November 29, 2013, 05:51:22 PM
Murderer!  ??? ??? ;D

From WIKI
Argon is an asphyxiant in the poultry industry, either for mass culling following disease outbreaks, or as a means of slaughter more humane than the electric bath. Argon's relatively high density causes it to remain close to the ground during gassing. Its non-reactive nature makes it suitable in a food product, and since it replaces oxygen within the dead bird, argon also enhances shelf life.

Well I didn't know that
Ditto
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: Will_D on November 29, 2013, 09:11:27 PM
My welding Argon comes from BOC:

The X size bottle (like a mixed gas bottle - not the huge 5 foot tall jobs) filled to 230 bar ???:

Annual rental of bottle €65-70,  refill (or initial gas fill) €41-70 plus VAT at 14.81%. Prices coorect as from 1/1/14 (minor price hike).

Hobby weld do the similar same size bottles but are filled to less than half the pressure (110 Bar)

Halfords and the like do a disposable bottle (like our 110 litre oxy GBs) but they are like €20.

If you need to BORROW some argon PM me!

BTW: CO2 is also a heavy asphixiant gas (all gases other than Air/Oxygen are asphixiants) so why use Argon to kill the chickies?

We used to store spacecraft (Metop 2 and 3) in a nitrogen tent in Friedrichhaven!

The warning signs were every where. Within about 10 metres of the tent you had to wear an oxygen monitor!
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: Ciderhead on November 30, 2013, 12:09:53 AM
Mr Happy has some beer that should finish them off and they would be nicely marinated as well?

Too low? Sorry Mr H just looking for recycling ideas.
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: Bzfeale80 on November 30, 2013, 12:23:14 AM
Nitrogen is also an asphyxiant and like argon should only be used in a well ventilated area. Don't mess about with these gases or take risks.

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Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: mr hoppy on November 30, 2013, 07:26:03 AM
Quote from: CH on November 30, 2013, 12:09:53 AM
Mr Happy has some beer that should finish them off and they would be nicely marinated as well?

;)
Title: Re: Argon supply needed
Post by: alealex on December 01, 2013, 08:24:10 AM
Thanks Will, thats nice of them at hobbyweld less than half of gas, b*****s.
I think I have to go with boc, not much of the choice.