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What sort of gas line do you use?

Started by phildo79, August 05, 2020, 12:05:43 AM

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phildo79

Hi folks

This will be more of a question for those that keg. When I bought my first keg, I bought a complete beginners set (minus the gas) from The Malt Miller. No complaints with any of the stuff but I found the gas line to be far too rigid. It was about 2 meters long and would wrap around the gas tank or keg but if you were fiddling around with it and dropped it, you'd think the thing was on springs. It would go haywire.

I ended up buying coiled tubing, which works a treat as it's flexible and stretchy, but the diameter of the coil is on the large side. I could see there being some issues if I wanted to attach a second coiled line (which I have) to have two kegs hooked up at the same time (I keep my kegs and gas inside the fridge). So far it hasn't been an issue but I would love a short piece of gas line that is really soft, thin and flexible. Does such a thing exist? I had to get my gas topped up yesterday and spotted all the different types of tubing the guy was selling. I asked him if he had anything that would suit my needs but he was as confused as I am as to whether such a thing exists. I have seen YouTube videos from homebrewers in the States and a lot of them seem to have this soft, flexible gas line. Any ideas?

DEMPSEY

Not sure myself but I would imagine this type of gas line has to have some sort of strength inits wall to prevent it bursting. If you put the pipe in hot water first it might softening it to allow you to shape it to the direction you want.
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phildo79

Quote from: eoghanr on August 05, 2020, 12:01:39 PMhttps://www.amazon.com/Homebrewing-Kit-CO2-Gas-Line/dp/B07KF9CNSM?pd_rd_w=FmPVD&pf_rd_p=b1335604-246e-4b5e-8fbd-a1c826ead4a3&pf_rd_r=0W33XFWBTMD24JCDY75C&pd_rd_r=963f3470-e1cf-4684-bc98-bb7e798befaf&pd_rd_wg=N5P40&pd_rd_i=B07KF9CNSM&ref_=pd_bap_m_rp_1_1_dc

This is the type I use, reasonably soft and flexible even when kept in the fridge. Ordered it from the US.
Yeah, this is what I had in mind. The red tubing they use in the States. But is it, essentially, syphon tubing painted red? I ordered this the other day, from China. Will probably be rigid as fook!

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32608791987.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.40694c4dYEkRPL

pob

Can't really use silicone tubing (for gas) under pressure; it can balloon out.
That why you need the stiffer tubing for it.

If you went for 3/16", it would be more flexible. The 3/8" I use is definitely springy.

Emot

I use this stuff off ikegger.eu, and it's very flexible, I'd highly recommend.

https://ikegger.eu/products/6mm-silikonschlauch

I use the 6mm ID x 10mm OD PVC for gas, and the 5mm ID x 8mm OD Eva Barrier for beer line. With the gas line, I've put through 70 Psi with no issues on strength.

You can get all yout Duotight pushfit fittings off them too so it's a very handy site.

phildo79

Cool. Don't see the 10mm push fittings though. It's annoying that all these things aren't made with a universal measuring unit. I have 10mm OD coiled pneumatic line for my gas but a 3/8 JC push fitting. It's tight going in, almost impossible to remove. You wouldn't think half a millimetre would make that much difference.

Emot

Here you go:

https://ikegger.eu/products/duo-tight-8mm-push-fittings

They're under Shop -> Lines , Fittings and Manifolds -> DuoTight 8mm push fittings

phildo79

Quote from: Emot on August 10, 2020, 01:03:16 PMHere you go:

https://ikegger.eu/products/duo-tight-8mm-push-fittings

They're under Shop -> Lines , Fittings and Manifolds -> DuoTight 8mm push fittings
Thanks but those are 8mm OD. I need 10mm OD. Or I need to change my lines.

dcalnan

I use barbed for all my gas side connection, that way I can use oetiker clamps to ensure no leaks. I get my hose from hosetech in cork, but flomax sell something similar.

https://www.tricoflex.com/en/produit/tricoclair-al/

https://www.flomax.ie/Catalogue/PNEUMATIC-TUBING-INDUSTRIAL-HOSE/PVC-Hose/Industrial-PVC-Hose/Clear-Reinforced-Braided-PVC-Hose

Then if you really want to get into it, I got quick disconnects for my gas lines, allowing me to swap fittings quickly.
 
https://www.flomax.ie/Catalogue/Fittings-Couplings-Adaptors/Quick-Release-Couplings/Series-19

Boycott

Quote from: phildo79 on August 05, 2020, 04:22:50 PM
Quote from: eoghanr on August 05, 2020, 12:01:39 PMhttps://www.amazon.com/Homebrewing-Kit-CO2-Gas-Line/dp/B07KF9CNSM?pd_rd_w=FmPVD&pf_rd_p=b1335604-246e-4b5e-8fbd-a1c826ead4a3&pf_rd_r=0W33XFWBTMD24JCDY75C&pd_rd_r=963f3470-e1cf-4684-bc98-bb7e798befaf&pd_rd_wg=N5P40&pd_rd_i=B07KF9CNSM&ref_=pd_bap_m_rp_1_1_dc

This is the type I use, reasonably soft and flexible even when kept in the fridge. Ordered it from the US.
Yeah, this is what I had in mind. The red tubing they use in the States. But is it, essentially, syphon tubing painted red? I ordered this the other day, from China. Will probably be rigid as fook!

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32608791987.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.40694c4dYEkRPL

I think I'm in the exact situation as yourself. Can you let me know what the tubing is like when you get it?

phildo79

Quote from: Boycott on August 20, 2020, 03:06:13 PMI think I'm in the exact situation as yourself. Can you let me know what the tubing is like when you get it?
It was soft as shite. How they can claim it is usable for gas is beyond me. The ID an OD were also wrong. But it's not like I am going to bother sending it back to China. Think I will just stick with my coiled pneumatic line for now and change it up to 3/16 line should space become a real issue.

Robbiedrog

Hi guys, I use 8mm barbs on my regulator and corny keg connection. I use the below 8mm tube for between the Co2 and corny keg,

https://www.homebrewwest.ie/brouwland-tubing-pvc-8x14-mm-reinforced-for-beerco2-per-meter-2238-p.asp

This is the barb that I use for the corny keg post,

https://www.homebrewwest.ie/tube-holder-8mm--nut-for-soda-keg-connector-from-brouwland-2225-p.asp

And I then use unex hose clips from Radionics, they are by far the best type of clip for high pressure gas,

https://ie.rs-online.com/mobile/p/hose-clips-jubilee-clips/2884103/

I collected the clips from Radionics as they can be of a pain to get delivery from if your not a company.