Jebbs Slovenian Challenge

[Will_D]

I have been thinking about this - and its not easy.

The style can also be decided on after the beer is made - you may design an American Ale but it turns out like a English IPA.

A lot of people in the Nationals were re-categorising there beers before the final entry dates.

So if you register an entry into a specific category you can always change the category when you have assessed the beer.

As Colm says the judges won't be told what hops have been used, but we would like to know what Slovenian hops and other bittering hops have been used.

[irish_goat]

But what happens if I enter an English IPA and the judges look at the guidelines to see;

"Aroma: A moderate to moderately-high hop aroma of floral,
spicy-peppery or citrus-orange in nature is typical. A slightly
grassy dry-hop aroma is acceptable, but not required. Low to moderate fruitiness is acceptable. "

But the Slovenian hops I have don't match this and their descriptions promise aromas and flavours of;

"Tropical fruits, blueberries, melon, raspberries, elderflower, violet."

and

"Apple, pineapple, tropical fruits, passion fruit, strawberries, anise."

[molc]

It's always tricky applying BJCP when people are trying out something different.

From a styles perspective, your example it means the hops don't produce the desired characteristics for that style of beer. It could be entered in specialty IPA category though, with notes added as to the expected hop profile. There are a number of these "catch all" categories for situations like this.

There is space in the BJCP guidelines for beers that don't fit in some of the brackets. At the end of a day, a good beer will show through. If it's a case that the hops produce a profile that people don't feel fit a category, then that's where the notes come into their own.

[irish_goat]

Happy to put it into Speciality IPA, except...

the entrant
must describe the type of Specialty IPA and its key
characteristics in comment form so judges will know what to
expect. Entrants may specify specific hop varieties used, if
entrants feel that judges may not recognize the varietal
characteristics of newer hops.

[molc]

I think the style guide should take priority for all entries.

Any entry where descriptive text is required should be given to the judges, as that is the only way they can judge it correctly.

If the hops were used to make an English ipa, then the variety has no impact on the judges comments and should not be provided to them.

Do we need to update the rules or is the fact we say it's a bjcp competition enough do you reckon?

[Will_D]

The fact that its a registered Bjcp competition does not mean it has to be judged to the style guidlines.

Bjcp registered means how the competition is run, It is run to the Bjcp competition standards.

It is meant to be a bit of fun and really the only reason for the style to be mentioned is so that it allows us to put the beers into flights!

[@geterbrewed]

We have a few of the Slovenian Hops samples that went unclaimed if anyone needs some extra for this competition, ill check exactly whats left if its of interest.

[JayMc]

We have a few of the Slovenian Hops samples that went unclaimed if anyone needs some extra for this competition, ill check exactly whats left if its of interest.

I'd be interested, is there any Styrian Aurora or Styrian Cascade left?

[Acott]

We have a few of the Slovenian Hops samples that went unclaimed if anyone needs some extra for this competition, ill check exactly whats left if its of interest.

I'd be interested, I plan on putting an order in with you at the end of this week 

[cruiscinlan]

We have a few of the Slovenian Hops samples that went unclaimed if anyone needs some extra for this competition, ill check exactly whats left if its of interest.

As would I, in retrospect I should have gone for the full Capital allocation as there was no other individual intersted.

[@geterbrewed]

We gave away 45kg in total of Slovenian hops to various forums and micro breweries and the feedback has been unbelievable so far, we have a small box of mixed 50g packets left so add a note in the comment box of your preference and we'll try and accomodate as best as possible.

Thanks for running the competition to showcase this great hop region

Jonathan

[Will_D]

Just Bumping this:

Entry form is now live! Good luck everyone.

http://bit.ly/1UIqnqQ

When you enter, you should get an e-mail with your entry number and also bottle labels to attach to your entries. These can be given in to your local club and will then find their way to the North County.

If you have any issues, just let us know.

[Acott]

We gave away 45kg in total of Slovenian hops to various forums and micro breweries and the feedback has been unbelievable so far, we have a small box of mixed 50g packets left so add a note in the comment box of your preference and we'll try and accomodate as best as possible.

Thanks for running the competition to showcase this great hop region

Jonathan

Excellent, order placed 

[fobster]

So closing date is the 1st May, what's the drop-off deadline?!

Thanks,

Fiachra

[Will_D]

So closing date is the 1st May, what's the drop-off deadline?!
Fiachra

I have just updated the OP with revised dates:

Registration opens: is now Open !
Registration Closes: Sun 8th May
Drop points: You local club will act as drop point [Note: No walk-ins on the day!]
Drop offs Close: Sun 15th May