A weiss... red-ish...

[giacomo]

Hey guys

Saturday I brewed for the first time with the new equipment (formerly shiny's equipment) and to go on the safe side, I used a Brupaks mashkit.
Supposed to be a Bavarian Weiss ( http://www.homebrewwest.ie/brupaks-mashkit-bavarian-weissbier-3044-p.asp ), which I would have expected to be yellow-ish, once ended the mash turned out to be... red. I mean red, dark red.

I don't have a list of the grains contained in the kit (will ask the producer), but the website says "Color: pale straw"...

I mashed-in at around 66°C and the temperature never raised above that (wend slowly down to 64°C) during the 90'.
Sparge-wise, 30-ish minutes using ~70°C water, so I don't see how I could have caramelized some of the sugars ending up with such a darker color...

Any clue what could have caused a different color from the expected, if not the original malts?

[irish_goat]

Only thing I could think is maybe you were given an Irish Red mashkit by accident? Were there any dark grains in the grist?

[oblivious]

I don't have a list of the grains contained in the kit (will ask the producer), but the website says "Color: pale straw"...

Did you notice any dark grains in the grist?

[giacomo]

A very small amount... but the yeast was indeed the Weiss one... and it didn't really smell that roasty in the mash tun... you think to a mixed package!?
... an irish red fermented with weiss yeasts!?
...
meh...

[nigel_c]

A weiss... red-ish...

Sounds delicious 

[delzep]

Dunkelweiss surely?

[oblivious]

A very small amount... but the yeast was indeed the Weiss one... and it didn't really smell that roasty in the mash tun... you think to a mixed package!?
... an irish red fermented with weiss yeasts!?
...
meh...

It sounds good, you could have a new style: Irish red wheat ale

[giacomo]

Dunkelweiss surely?

Bavarian Weiss...

[giacomo]

A very small amount... but the yeast was indeed the Weiss one... and it didn't really smell that roasty in the mash tun... you think to a mixed package!?
... an irish red fermented with weiss yeasts!?
...
meh...

It sounds good, you could have a new style: Irish red wheat ale

Let's see what comes out

[giacomo]

Quick update here: as fermentation progresses and slows down, the beer is getting sensibly paler (yellow-ish).
It might indeed be a weiss in the end...

[giacomo]

So, after a week, although the beer in the fermenter still looks red-ish, here's how it looks like in a glass (I was taking the mid-fermentation gravity reading)

Pretty impressed by how it's coming along... gravity is down to 1.010 (attenuated 75%), hazy as a weiss should be, lots of cloves in the nose, banana in the taste... possibly a bit "light", "watery", but if I manage not to screw it up when bottling time comes, this should be a pretty lovely brew

[nigel_c]

That looks about right. I was half expecting it to be like an irish red. I would imagine a red Weiss would be very tasty.

[giacomo]

Might be something to try, eventually

[Qs]

Wouldn't worry about the wateryness. Hefe level carbonation should make up for that.