There are some great recipes floating around the forum but I feel that they are getting lost.
Any thoughts about how to bring all these to one location? I know we had a half arsed attempt at publishing them after 2013 competition?
That would be a really good idea, a common format would be needed for clarity. I wouldn't mind taking it on as a project, lots of time on my hands.
Thats a great offer, I think it would be very educational in compiling them to get a real feel for common ingredients in styles
Would sub Cats of the Recipes section using the new BJCP Cats be too much, there is 34 beers in the new standard?
It may also get us all more familiar with these new cats.
It should be fine, now finding all the recipes will be hard. Should I include the clones of Irish craft beers that have been posted or leave them in their own post.
lets have some input from the mods or anybody else? about structure or their thoughts how best to put that bring all that together?, there may be an easy way rather than plodding through everything.
Plodding is the only way methinks.
To give them structure, i.e. in correct category order, we could use the website with an index?
I like the idea of a BJCP structured recipe section.
Nothing massively complex. Just a simple tried and tested recipe or 2 for each category. Possible an all grain recipe or 2 plus an extract version. Q
I'd be interested in compiling recipes and doing a bit of the research.
Excellent idea.
One thing that lets down sites like ours are the P*ss poor search engines so orgainizing them to the new BJCP guides would be an excellent way to structure them. At least you know that if you are looking for a Cat 11 recipe it WILL be in the Cat 11 folder and not like most now "in the elsquare"
Categorising for BJCP would have it's drawbacks but I can understand why it is a possible route. Alternatively, it might be worth considering using keywords relating to the style, process, ingredients. Wordpress would probably be a better place than the forum for that though I'd imagine.
Just my 2c
We have the BrewWiki (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/brewwiki/) currently.
We can do the same for a Recipe page (just tryig to work out an easy way to set it up & maintain it).
Not sure I've ever seen the Brewiki before, looks great.
Great ideas on the recipes though. Be nice if we could get them into a standardised format too.
Could go with something like this (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/recipe-index/).
Tons of work required, but would look good when finished. Trying to work how to make it simple for small number of users to be able to add/edit them. Issues really are around standard format to keep it looking smart.
[I know I'm using old Cat numbers, easy to remember - new index would use new 2015 Cat numbers]
That looks great! Would be very handy!
Grains should be in %, hops as BU, target OG & FG etc. This will make it easier on people to adapt recipes to their own brew kit.
Cheers, HopBomb, added to the list.
Any more suggestions?
I won't do any major work until the basic layout is done, no point duplicating effort.
This will be a longish term project, so it won't be ready by Monday ;-)
A rating system might be handy. Also sorting by how dificult/technical the brew are eg. step mash, decoction. etc.
Support upload of BeerXML. It'll have the structure and will support multiple apps that export it
Check out the aha website for how they do comp winners each year by category. it's a nice collection if recipes in and easy to find format.
Quote from: Hop Bomb on June 23, 2015, 09:11:15 PM
Grains should be in %,
Buy what is the total grain weight to water ratio?
i.e.
For a 22.5l brew, you want 8 kgs of grain in total:
The percentages are:
Malt A: x%
Malt Y: y%
etc
Quote from: Will_D on June 24, 2015, 09:29:09 AM
Quote from: Hop Bomb on June 23, 2015, 09:11:15 PM
Grains should be in %,
Buy what is the total grain weight to water ratio?
2.7 usually. But what brewer isnt using a recipe design app or program these days? Using that app its much simpler key in grain % & adjust hops to match BU. Your OG is determined by your systems efficiency, not as easy as 8kg grain for 22.5 L brew. Not everyone brews 5 gallon batches. Some brew smaller, some brew bigger & its a PITA to have to key in exact amounts of grains & hops from a recipe to then have to scale it up or down to suit your system. This is why % & BU is much cleaner for a recipe bank (imo)
Quote from: Pheeel on June 24, 2015, 01:00:05 AM
Support upload of BeerXML. It'll have the structure and will support multiple apps that export it
Found a way to
integrate BeerXML files (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/recipe-index/), so this is probably the way we'll go. It covers a lot of the aspects requested. It can be then downloaded & imported into your own program, then adjusted to your own system.
Giving them Ratings or a Beginner/Intermediate/Advanced level would be a bit more difficult, as the differentiators would be very subjective & may put people off a good recipe, e.g. 'that's a beginner one, I won't do something that simple' or 'It's too Hard , I won't be able to do it".
We just need to ammend the BJCP styles on the files when they are received, to reflect the 2015 guidelines.
Ok I have plenty of time to do this now, so I can start soon hopefully.