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Title: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on June 25, 2015, 09:09:05 AM
Judges required for Liffey brewers Comp on the 26th of Sept....This is a BJCP registered comp so points up for grabs. Please post below if your interested in judging and we will contact you soon with details.
Thanks,
Liffey Brewers
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Dr Jacoby on June 25, 2015, 03:50:18 PM
I'll help out
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: auralabuse on June 25, 2015, 04:28:01 PM
Do you have to be experienced or certified?
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on June 26, 2015, 05:56:05 PM
No were an equal opportunities beer comp... We'll take any one
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: auralabuse on June 26, 2015, 07:03:53 PM
I will add my name in there so
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: auralabuse on June 26, 2015, 07:04:31 PM
1 Dr Jacoby
2 Alan Walsh (auralabuse)
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: delzep on June 26, 2015, 08:27:17 PM
I'll be a steward if ye want
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on June 26, 2015, 10:44:36 PM
Nice one Derek
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: delzep on June 27, 2015, 03:33:40 PM
Can judges/stewards enter the competition?
Title: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Leann ull on June 27, 2015, 03:52:45 PM
I'll let the organisers confirm but it wasn't an issue for Stewards/Judges in GCB comp.
I may comment however absolutely no markers/labels and avoid "unique" bottles or caps as well or they would probably be disqualified :(
Something that will be strictly enforced in the Nationals 2016.
A HB'er in Sweden told me they have to use 1 standard type of 500Ml bottle  :o
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: delzep on June 27, 2015, 04:20:32 PM
My question was a nudge to flush out potential judges/stewards who maybe thought they couldn't enter and judge/steward ;)

No excuses noe O0
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Leann ull on June 27, 2015, 05:58:19 PM
:)
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on June 27, 2015, 07:02:12 PM
Judges and stewards can enter, no issues with that
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: molc on June 28, 2015, 03:03:07 PM
Is there public transport available to get to the judging venue from Dublin?
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: DEMPSEY on June 28, 2015, 04:14:10 PM
The 66's and the 67 bus go right past the door with the bus stop immediately outside https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.356546,-6.464613,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXAnZLZ4VZSgT1a3m3kY1YQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: molc on June 28, 2015, 08:19:44 PM
Coolii. If your stuck for judges closer to the time, I may be free that weekend, but I'm an absolute novice! Will update closer to the time
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on June 30, 2015, 09:36:37 AM
Thanks molc
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Paul B on July 04, 2015, 03:47:08 PM
Id be happy to judge, currently studying for bjcp exam.
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on July 04, 2015, 10:43:53 PM
Thanks pdb
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: molc on August 25, 2015, 09:28:48 AM
Cr*p, was just about to update to say I'd judge, but turns out I'm out of the country the weekend this is on. Doh!

Putting back up the judges list, for clarity.

1 Dr Jacoby
2 Alan Walsh (auralabuse)
3. PDB?
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Paul B on August 25, 2015, 09:37:37 AM
Yes I'm still available, can I just ask that organisers keep in touch via PM or email though, I've subscribed to this thread but its very likely I'll miss important messages or updates.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on August 25, 2015, 10:01:46 AM
Judges still required... Bjcp points up for grabs
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Shane Phelan on August 25, 2015, 06:35:31 PM
Throwing my hat into the ring.

1 Dr Jacoby
2 Alan Walsh (auralabuse)
3. PDB
4. Shiny
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on August 25, 2015, 06:35:56 PM
Thanks Shiny
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on September 05, 2015, 12:22:31 AM
Now not only are BJCP points up for grabs..Judges will be treated to world famous Liffey Brewers BBQ!!
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Shane Phelan on September 05, 2015, 08:30:10 AM
Excellent!
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: delzep on September 05, 2015, 08:38:25 AM
Quote from: lordstilton on September 05, 2015, 12:22:31 AM
Now not only are BJCP points up for grabs..Judges will be treated to world famous Liffey Brewers BBQ!!

Stewards too?  :o
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Dr Jacoby on September 05, 2015, 09:36:38 AM
I know it's a few weeks out but do you know yet roughly what time the judging starts and ends?
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on September 05, 2015, 10:57:28 PM
Around 12 I'd say
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: auralabuse on September 06, 2015, 12:24:27 AM
Is it possible to judge and drive after?, silly question I know but I have never done it.
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on September 06, 2015, 03:39:08 AM
I would say yes...but you'd have to confirm with an experienced judge. Your looking at around 6 beers to judge..you shouldn't need more than 100ml per beer..that would be spread out too..once you hang on for an hour after you should be well under the limit...any judges here able to confirm this??
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Will_D on September 06, 2015, 06:44:35 PM
Quote from: auralabuse on September 06, 2015, 12:24:27 AM
Is it possible to judge and drive after?, silly question I know but I have never done it.
Yes of course. You only need to swallow a very small amount of beer. Most of the judging is in in a non-swallow mode!

After all look how they taste wines!

12 beers over about 3 hours could be as swalloewing as little as 12 x 50 ml thats 600 ml or just over a pint!

Don't drink at lunch time and you can do another 12 in the afternoon.

While the judging etc is going on you've metabolised most of the drink (UNLESS you are doing the Hi alchol beers)

Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Dr Jacoby on September 06, 2015, 07:20:32 PM
I would never drive after judging. The beers can creep up on you very easily. But I guess if you were disciplined and really only sipped each beer you'd be fine. 
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Leann ull on September 06, 2015, 09:47:40 PM
+1 Best not to
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: brenmurph on September 06, 2015, 10:01:01 PM
We need to drink as much beer as required to properly judge the beer.  In my opinion its not 50 or 100 ml.
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: brenmurph on September 06, 2015, 10:02:48 PM
And it would b very unprofessional as a group if we supported judges driving home after a day of judging.
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Leann ull on September 06, 2015, 10:10:16 PM
Bren some of those beers will only be smelled ;D
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Drum on September 07, 2015, 12:10:33 AM
The real question here is should someone who has just judged (drank samples of) at least 6 unlabelled beers of unknown alcohol content be allowed to drive a car?

Really people? As so called responsible adults should we even have to ask?

Taxis arent that fe(k!N expensive
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on September 07, 2015, 12:11:36 AM
I stand corrected.. Take the advice of the experienced lads and don't drive
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: auralabuse on September 07, 2015, 08:06:29 AM
It obviously depends on where your getting the taxi to 😖
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: brenmurph on September 07, 2015, 12:28:46 PM
Tell yis wat ill bring my breathalyser along.@ ciderhead.. Some truth there ! 
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Simon_ on September 08, 2015, 01:14:39 PM
If so little of the beer is sampled (2 judges x 50 ml) why aren't 33cl bottles the competition norm? They're as readily available as 50cl and would be easier to transport and process
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Shane Phelan on September 09, 2015, 05:50:32 AM
A best of show could have 5 judges, the head judge is often asked to assist judges with sampling, avoiding dregs, resampling to identity a subtle off flavour, loss if beer if its a gusher, can be reused if there is a mini bos keeping good bottle for main Bos, if one bottle is off but 2nd one is good then there might be enough for main bos.

There are many pros to having 500ml.
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on September 14, 2015, 02:32:44 PM
I'm glad a little sense has prevailed here.
Never drink and drive, it's not worth it.
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: auralabuse on September 14, 2015, 08:54:21 PM
Yeah, I was not sure, having never judged and not knowing the finer details. I'm afraid this rules me out, I was on a very tight timeframe as it was. I'm really sorry if this causes a problem.
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on September 14, 2015, 09:13:26 PM
No  bother at auralabuse.. Thanks for volunteering in the first place
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: brenmurph on September 15, 2015, 07:15:21 AM
dont forget Ill be judging for ye
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on September 15, 2015, 08:47:54 AM
Nice one bren.
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on September 21, 2015, 09:48:08 PM
List of judges so far
1. Dr Jacoby
2. Shiny
3. Bren
4. Saruman

For comp to be successful we could do with 2 - 4 more experienced Judges..If anyone out there with or currently studying BJCP can help us out this Saturday the Liffey Brewers will be eternally grateful...did I mention BBQ? 
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Shane Phelan on September 21, 2015, 09:53:57 PM
How many beers are we looking at currently ?
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on September 21, 2015, 09:56:18 PM
not far off the 50 mark!!!
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Paul B on September 21, 2015, 09:58:31 PM
Quote from: lordstilton on September 21, 2015, 09:48:08 PM
List of judges so far
1. Dr Jacoby
2. Shiny
3. Bren
4. Saruman

For comp to be successful we could do with 2 - 4 more experienced Judges..If anyone out there with or currently studying BJCP can help us out this Saturday the Liffey Brewers will be eternally grateful...did I mention BBQ?

Don't forget me, still available :)
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on September 21, 2015, 10:00:14 PM

1. Dr Jacoby
2. Shiny
3. Bren
4. Saruman
5. pdb
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: brenmurph on September 22, 2015, 08:17:00 AM
Come on folks, we need experienced and qualified judges moving forward and to keep these comps legit. Experienced judges must be paired with less experienced, thats how the comp and the bjcp system works ....on experience.  Do yer best to sign up for the few hours
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: beerfly on September 22, 2015, 09:02:41 AM
1. Dr Jacoby
2. Shiny
3. Bren
4. Saruman
5. pdb
6. Beerfly

better keep me well supplied with crackers and water or you will have an angry otter in a top hat hunting you down  :P
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on September 22, 2015, 09:23:36 AM
Good man beer fly... Water crackers at the ready
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: imark on September 22, 2015, 09:26:07 AM
And ribs 🐖
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Eoin on September 22, 2015, 10:40:04 AM
1. Dr Jacoby
2. Shiny
3. Bren
4. Saruman
5. pdb
6. Beerfly
7. Eoin

Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: imark on September 22, 2015, 12:19:47 PM
1. Dr Jacoby
2. Shiny
3. Bren
4. Saruman
5. pdb
6. Beerfly
7. Eoin
8. Alex
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: DoubleG on September 22, 2015, 01:47:48 PM
1. Dr Jacoby
2. Shiny
3. Bren
4. Saruman
5. pdb
6. Beerfly
7. Eoin
8. Alex
9. DoubleG


If theres still space I can do some judging.
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: imark on September 22, 2015, 01:48:50 PM
Still space DoubleG. Thanks for volunteering.
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: lordstilton on September 22, 2015, 02:47:09 PM
Yep we have space.. Welcome aboard.. Thanks for volunteering
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Paul B on September 25, 2015, 04:28:36 PM
Hi can someone confirm if this is 2008 or 2015 guidelines? I was sure I remembered reading 2015 but then the poster at http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,10327.msg126786.html#msg126786 seems to use 2008.

Edit: Ok I see here (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,9899.msg124306.html#msg124306) it's 2008. No problem but any specific reason for not using the new ones?
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: imark on September 25, 2015, 05:53:55 PM
2008
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: brenmurph on September 25, 2015, 07:10:08 PM
Bit of a transition period Id say. my head is wrecked anyways as since i installed bjcp 2015 i have no access to the old guide ???
Im sure if theres a minor issue re style Id imagine we can clarify and refine on the day so no one is docked points if there is a misunderstanding. Eg kellerbier is on 2015 bjcp but for this comp (2008) could be entered in cat23a special beers.  this and all comps I hope are conducted in good faith and its all fun and education.

Id suggest if anyone has any concerns re style guide then bring it up and between kellie and garrett all will be well.

best of luck to everyone over the weekend with both comps happening :)
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: eanna on September 25, 2015, 10:53:10 PM
The entry form said 2008 when it was active. The bjcp themselves say they expect a transition period, and 2008 is the one we're all familiar with for now.
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Eoin on September 26, 2015, 09:31:47 AM
Lads, sorry but last minute pull out from me, I'm not well at all this morning. My throat is burning and swollen, I'd be useless judging beers, I think hot whiskey is all I'd manage today... I was so looking forward to some good BBQ. Have a good day all.
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Kellie on September 26, 2015, 10:11:07 AM
We are on are way, got delayed leaving! I had to hang my washing out! Too good of a day to miss! See you soon :)
Title: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: pob on September 26, 2015, 06:40:38 PM
Quote from: Kellie on September 26, 2015, 10:11:07 AM
We are on are way, got delayed leaving! I had to hang my washing out! Too good of a day to miss! See you soon :)
You've had a good day Kellie.

A great days drying.



Oh yeah, and a winner that learnt everything worthwhile from you

Well done Bren!!
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Paul B on September 26, 2015, 07:10:17 PM
Fantastic day guys, perfectly run and BBQ as promised! Well done all.
Title: Re: Liffey Brewer German Beer Comp.....Judges Required
Post by: Kellie on September 26, 2015, 10:56:42 PM
God dam it! My washing was damp by de time I got home!  Lol