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Title: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: magnethead on February 23, 2013, 05:33:41 PM

Just put together my new Keezer, not too difficult but pleasing to pour draught for the first time in my life :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pc2n15Scs4&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: Ciderhead on February 23, 2013, 05:38:47 PM
nice job especially the paint!
2 bar, are you force carbing something?
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: magnethead on February 23, 2013, 05:47:59 PM
Nah, It's just mixed gas I use for pushing the Kegs...The Kegs are already carbonated....I just wanted to kick the beer taps in the nuts :) first time using the setup and wanted to see how well the taps could control the pressure without worry about all that "line balancing" stuff...I put a 50cm line on that weisbier but the other two ales are on a 30cm line and pour fine too ;p.....Very happy with it, even though the girlfriend calls me an alcoholic EVERY time I pour a pint....Sometimes I think they just can't watch a man be happy!!
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: DEMPSEY on February 23, 2013, 06:07:37 PM
Looks great Nathan. You were bending down a bit while pouring,why not get some kitchen furniture legs and raise it off the floor to make it easier to pour. :)
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: magnethead on February 23, 2013, 06:25:11 PM
Fair play ;p.....Hadn't even thought about ergonomics :) ....just glad to have the draught working!! THe Taps are at HIP height so I guess that could be a problem over the night...but I sure I can find enough volunteers to pull pints, and if we all take it in turn, back pain will be minimized LOL

Here's a few build steps
http://s679.beta.photobucket.com/user/magnethead123/library/Keezer
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: Stitch on February 23, 2013, 06:45:02 PM
Looks great Nathan. When is the party???
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: magnethead on February 23, 2013, 06:54:22 PM
The Door is always open Stitch ;p....One tap has the St Peters Ruby Red Kit which I wasn't 100% happy with....Looking forward to getting a Stout going on the end tap and hooking up the Nitro setup....Should be soon..

Might stick a fifth tap on the Keezer eventually as it's take another Keg inside no problem.
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: Stitch on February 23, 2013, 07:12:46 PM
The more you fill it the more efficient it will be. Negotiations have started here by the way. Is that the cylinder for D&D??? Sorry did not get a chance to call you back was stuck in work till after 9!!!
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: Stitch on February 23, 2013, 07:24:44 PM
Just looking at the video again. I had the same problem as I had no drip tray and found that a glass works a lot better under the tap. Please sucking on damp tissue is no where near as nice as drinking from a glass at the end of the night!!! :-?
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: Ciderhead on February 24, 2013, 01:52:10 PM
Can I ask why you didn't put your gas on the shelf above the compressor as obviously colder gas is more easily absorbed, is it too bit to fit?
Were the hinges tricky to unmount and remount on the timber?

Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: magnethead on February 24, 2013, 03:07:19 PM
Hiya, no the build was a piece of cake...hinges just screwed out and went back on, just as easy..

The Collar on the bottle is about 1 inch too big if sitting on the shelf..but anyway the plan is to use that area for putting bottles on and I have a basket that will fit in and hold a second layer of bottles over that  :P
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: Ciderhead on February 24, 2013, 03:20:34 PM
Nice
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: rukkus on February 24, 2013, 11:28:59 PM
Where did you pick up that nice gas manifold?
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: magnethead on February 25, 2013, 07:25:11 AM
All the gas parts, disconnects..etc were picked up at http://www.northernbrewer.com/ because we have lads coming over from our american branch all the time so it's no problem getting around the shipping and import duty :)
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: mcgrath on February 26, 2013, 04:13:05 PM
QuoteLooks great Nathan. You were bending down a bit while pouring,why not get some kitchen furniture legs and raise it off the floor to make it easier to pour. :)
Stick some legs on it and slide the cot underneath.. Problem solved!! A baby, beer bunkbed.
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: DEMPSEY on February 27, 2013, 06:33:30 PM
If you have a choice,would you fit the gas tank in or out of a kegerator build. :-/
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: Will_D on February 27, 2013, 07:30:14 PM
QuoteIf you have a choice,would you fit the gas tank in or out of a kegerator build. :-/

There is no technical reason to have the gas inside.

It is either:

A question of aesthetics: i.e. The misses just sees a nice looking fridge with a few taps and a drip tray.

Or,
A question of fitting as many cornies into the kegerator as possible. The various gas bottles ( CO2 and Mix ) and the various regs and tubes can live outside. If the wife drinks stout and lagers/ales then this is just "par for the course my dear" "No ther way to do it"
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: Ciderhead on February 28, 2013, 12:10:02 AM
er ahem speaking in low whisper so as not to offend our resident senior brewing and chemical experts and so that they wont see this.
I read somewhere years ago, better absorbtion of the CO2 as its cold, what a load of sh.t, however
You will get a higher reading of amount of gas left from a warm than a cold tank
Issues around humidity and functioning of the regulator 
Careful drilling through rear and sides of fridge to avoid refrigerant pipes, more modern fridges have them at the back
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: Will_D on February 28, 2013, 10:05:47 AM
Quoteer ahem speaking in low whisper so as not to offend our resident senior brewing and chemical experts and so that they wont see this.
I read somewhere years ago, better absorbtion of the CO2 as its cold, what a load of sh.t,

Grandad has just put new batterys in his hearing aid!

What is they say in poker "Read them and weep"

Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: DEMPSEY on February 28, 2013, 10:10:50 AM
So if I build a kegerator with the gas bottle inside,(to make it preediurr to luuk at :)),then I should have no problems.
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: Will_D on February 28, 2013, 10:40:56 AM
QuoteSo if I build a kegerator with the gas bottle inside,(to make it preediurr to luuk at :)),then I should have no problems.

Its the temperature of the beer that is important.

Given the relative thermal mass of 22 L of beer at 2 C and a few litres of CO2 at 22 C the CO2 is cooled by the beer pretty damn quick to  about 2 C and disolves easily.

Also, according to the gas laws as soon as you release some CO2 from the tank it rapidly cools down.

Ever set off a CO2 extinguisher - makes a load of dry ice!

Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: Ciderhead on February 28, 2013, 11:16:58 AM
Like a red rag to a Bull, what I meant to say was that
"I read somewhere years ago, better absorption of the CO2 as its already cold in the fridge, what a load of sh.t"
It doesn't make a blind bit of difference if its inside or outside.
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: magnethead on February 28, 2013, 08:29:39 PM
Just pouring a few half pints as I type this :) to "make sure" everything is "alright"....Yeah I wasn't too pushed about the gas been inside or out to be honest, I wouldn't get grief either way..
But I read somewhere, the quicker and longer you keep the beer refrigerated at 4c, the longer it will stay fresh....so I'm gonna use the extra space for 2 Kegs on the Floor to store the next 2 replacement KEgs that are lined up....
Shelf is going for Bottle Storage
Doing a Oatmeal Stout tomorrow and I'll get that Nitro Setup sorted as soon as it's ready...THen another youtube Video haha  ;D
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: DEMPSEY on March 01, 2013, 12:56:10 AM
Oatmeal Stout on nitro,I will be exercising my Liffey brewer membership and inviting myself along for this.
Title: Re: New Keezer for the Liffey Brewers ;p Lucan
Post by: Ciderhead on March 01, 2013, 02:39:51 PM
Magnet i have you next project!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mX-_2b742vM