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Brewing Discussions => All Grain Brewing => Topic started by: Joe Cal on August 20, 2015, 10:11:19 AM

Title: new recipe - delicious - but what is it?
Post by: Joe Cal on August 20, 2015, 10:11:19 AM
Hi guys,

I just had a bottle of this recipe last night. I did it up myself with Brewer's Friend, substituting some of the grains that they didn't have. I bottle conditioned for 4 weeks and love it, really fruity, mellow taste with fizz and a good head.

I'll definitely be doing this one again

Would anyone know what style it falls under? Brewers Friend had it matching Roggenbier (does that need a much bigger rye percentage?) Dark American Lager (I fermented like an ale), Irish Red Ale (with 50% wheat can it be that?), Dunkelwizen, Scottish Export 80/-, other smoked beer, speciality beer

Recipe Specs
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Batch Size (L):           5.0
Total Grain (kg):         0.98
Total Hops (g):           6.00
Original Gravity (OG):    1.05
Final Gravity (FG):       1.007
Alcohol by Volume (ABV):  5.64 %
Bitterness (IBU):         19   (Average)
Boil Time (Minutes):      60

Grain Bill
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500g   Dark Wheat Malt - crushed grain (Weyermanns)          50.80%
325g   Irish Pale Ale Malt (Crushed) 3.6 EBC (Minch)                 33%
130g   Rye Malt Crushed (Weyermans)                                     13.20%
30g           Carafa Special Type III Crushed (Weyermanns)             3%


Hop Bill
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4g   Northern Brewer - vacuum packed Alpha Acid 6.7% 2013 Harvest   @ 60 Minutes (Boil)
2g   Northern Brewer - vacuum packed Alpha Acid 6.7% 2013 Harvest    @ 2 Minutes (Boil)




67°C Mash for 60 Minutes.
Fermented with Danstar Munich Wheat Beer Yeast 3g
Title: Re: new recipe - delicious - but what is it?
Post by: irish_goat on August 20, 2015, 10:31:36 AM
I think you could get away with calling it a Dunkelweizen. It's probably in between that and roggenbier.
Title: Re: new recipe - delicious - but what is it?
Post by: Eoin on August 20, 2015, 11:02:35 AM
It'd be quite close to a German Altbier.

Really it's a frankenrecipe. :)
Title: Re: new recipe - delicious - but what is it?
Post by: DEMPSEY on August 20, 2015, 11:18:24 AM
Why not enter it into the German beer comp running in September
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,10327.0.html
Title: Re: new recipe - delicious - but what is it?
Post by: Joe Cal on August 20, 2015, 11:36:57 AM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on August 20, 2015, 11:18:24 AM
Why not enter it into the German beer comp running in September
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,10327.0.html

Dunno if i'd be able to make that one but i do like the idea of getting some real feeback. For something like that how many bottles would you need? i'm operating on a small scale
Title: Re: new recipe - delicious - but what is it?
Post by: DEMPSEY on August 20, 2015, 11:42:57 AM
You can enter but you do not have to attend on the day :)
Title: Re: new recipe - delicious - but what is it?
Post by: Eoin on August 20, 2015, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: DEMPSEY on August 20, 2015, 11:18:24 AM
Why not enter it into the German beer comp running in September
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,10327.0.html

The wheat would be out of context and the lack of lagering would make it not an alt....but similar, in so far as it's a made up beer. It's delicious...drink the bugger.
Title: Re: new recipe - delicious - but what is it?
Post by: imark on August 20, 2015, 07:38:40 PM
With the exception of the Rye it's a dunkel weisse. You can enter it in two categories and see how it scores ☺
Title: Re: new recipe - delicious - but what is it?
Post by: Joe Cal on August 20, 2015, 11:44:37 PM
I'm gonna join as a member tomorrow. I've got a buddy in maynooth who can take the 2 bottles. I'm too curious now, need to see how it would do
Title: Re: new recipe - delicious - but what is it?
Post by: lordstilton on August 21, 2015, 04:29:49 AM
Cat23A would cover it too.
Title: Re: new recipe - delicious - but what is it?
Post by: imark on August 21, 2015, 10:27:08 AM
Quote from: azirathema on August 20, 2015, 11:44:37 PM
I'm gonna join as a member tomorrow. I've got a buddy in maynooth who can take the 2 bottles. I'm too curious now, need to see how it would do
Here are the style descriptions that will be used by the judges http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/catdex.php/ (http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/catdex.php/)
Have a read through the relevant categories with a glass of it in hand and see where you think it fits.
Best of luck in the competition
Title: new recipe - delicious - but what is it?
Post by: pob on August 21, 2015, 10:28:22 AM
Remember it's how the beer drinks (aroma, flavour, mouthfeel) rather than how it was brewed; if it is to style, as long as it is within the quide stylelines, it should be fine.

Some beers will fall between two or even three categories, e.g. Irish Red could be also judged as an English Bitter (perish the thought)