Title: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: DLC on September 03, 2015, 10:58:33 AM
Post by: DLC on September 03, 2015, 10:58:33 AM
Anyone know of any pub kegs suitable for lager on the go? looking for 30 and 50 litre if possible! Have never used them before so any tips would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: Leann ull on September 03, 2015, 11:00:56 AM
Post by: Leann ull on September 03, 2015, 11:00:56 AM
Cornelius kegs much easier to manage fill and clean,19l lots of breweries using them now and they are cheap!
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: DLC on September 03, 2015, 11:21:09 AM
Post by: DLC on September 03, 2015, 11:21:09 AM
hey ciderhead.
I have cornys already but am looking to become familiar with pub kegs.
Cheers
I have cornys already but am looking to become familiar with pub kegs.
Cheers
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: DLC on September 03, 2015, 11:33:03 AM
Post by: DLC on September 03, 2015, 11:33:03 AM
Well actually do you think pubs would take cornelius kegs??
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: Will_D on September 03, 2015, 10:51:18 PM
Post by: Will_D on September 03, 2015, 10:51:18 PM
Quote from: DLC on September 03, 2015, 10:58:33 AMHi DLC and welcome!
Anyone know of any pub kegs suitable for lager on the go? looking for 30 and 50 litre if possible! Have never used them before so any tips would be much appreciated.
You need to be a bit more specific!
What is "Lager on the go"?
If you want to sell kegged beer to pubs you need kegs!
All the big boys have their own s/s branded kegs (30 or 50L) with standard keg couplers (Heino and Guiness et. al.)
Smaller micros buy legal, re-furbished 50L kegs with their fitting of choice.
More and more micros are going with one way plastic kegs (Enviro keg or something like - just google)
Us homebrewers use cornies!
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: Leann ull on September 04, 2015, 01:39:01 AM
Post by: Leann ull on September 04, 2015, 01:39:01 AM
What are you trying to do? Sell to pubs! :o that's illegal without paying duty
Please clarify what you want and we can advise best option for you
Please clarify what you want and we can advise best option for you
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: LordEoin on September 04, 2015, 09:39:35 AM
Post by: LordEoin on September 04, 2015, 09:39:35 AM
sounds like someone's hosting a party.
Can we come?
Will there be coke and hookers?
Can we come?
Will there be coke and hookers?
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: Eoin on September 04, 2015, 10:20:06 AM
Post by: Eoin on September 04, 2015, 10:20:06 AM
Quote from: LordEoin on September 04, 2015, 09:39:35 AM
sounds like someone's hosting a party.
Can we come?
Will there be coke and hookers?
I'm sure noone would object if you brought your own....
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: donnchadhc on September 04, 2015, 11:37:18 AM
Post by: donnchadhc on September 04, 2015, 11:37:18 AM
Quote from: LordEoin on September 04, 2015, 09:39:35 AM
sounds like someone's hosting a party.
Can we come?
Will there be coke and hookers?
7-up man myself
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 04, 2015, 02:55:28 PM
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 04, 2015, 02:55:28 PM
Another name for 7 up was a snow white delight :D
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: DLC on September 04, 2015, 04:18:19 PM
Post by: DLC on September 04, 2015, 04:18:19 PM
HA!
Good Lord.
Well yes I am trying to get my lager into pubs, have company set up and in process of getting license. All I need now is to know where to get suitable kegs and fittings etc. I am familiar with Cornelius but have never used 'proper' ones.
Good Lord.
Well yes I am trying to get my lager into pubs, have company set up and in process of getting license. All I need now is to know where to get suitable kegs and fittings etc. I am familiar with Cornelius but have never used 'proper' ones.
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: DLC on September 04, 2015, 04:24:11 PM
Post by: DLC on September 04, 2015, 04:24:11 PM
Where can one buy refurbished kegs?
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: Garry on September 04, 2015, 04:49:57 PM
Post by: Garry on September 04, 2015, 04:49:57 PM
I don't think you can buy refurbished kegs. The breweries tend to use them until they are beyond bollocksed and even then they'd sooner scrap them than sell them onto a competitor.
You can buy new kegs here (http://www.crusaderkegsandcasks.com/stock-kegs/).
You can buy new kegs here (http://www.crusaderkegsandcasks.com/stock-kegs/).
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on September 04, 2015, 04:51:54 PM
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on September 04, 2015, 04:51:54 PM
Quote from: DLC on September 04, 2015, 04:18:19 PM
HA!
Good Lord.
Well yes I am trying to get my lager into pubs, have company set up and in process of getting license. All I need now is to know where to get suitable kegs and fittings etc. I am familiar with Cornelius but have never used 'proper' ones.
You realise that having a license and a company is not enough to legally sell beer right?
You also need a bonded warehouse and that's before health and safety get involved. Your best option might be to contract brew at an already bonded brewery. They will be able to help you with kegs too. Key kegs might be your best option in that case.
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: DLC on September 04, 2015, 05:26:24 PM
Post by: DLC on September 04, 2015, 05:26:24 PM
OK great so a bonded brewery means what exactly?
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: DLC on September 04, 2015, 05:31:41 PM
Post by: DLC on September 04, 2015, 05:31:41 PM
Ah ok I understand now thanks for the info people
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: molc on September 04, 2015, 05:33:17 PM
Post by: molc on September 04, 2015, 05:33:17 PM
This side of things it's best to have a chat with the guys over at beoir and Saruman should be able to point you in the right direction.
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: DLC on September 04, 2015, 05:45:41 PM
Post by: DLC on September 04, 2015, 05:45:41 PM
A bonded warehouse isn't essential though is it?
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: donnchadhc on September 04, 2015, 09:07:06 PM
Post by: donnchadhc on September 04, 2015, 09:07:06 PM
Without a bond you'd be paying excise as you produce. Very tax inefficient, can't see why you'd do it as you'd be paying excise for beer you haven't sold, spoilage Etc. I know you can claim most that back, but it would kill your cash flow. You'd also need the ok from the revenue, and I really can't see that happening. Bonding is like insurance for Revenue which you pay for 
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: LordEoin on September 04, 2015, 09:24:43 PM
Post by: LordEoin on September 04, 2015, 09:24:43 PM
Awesome! When and where's the launch party?
Will there be coke and hookers?
What's your recipe? We'd like to brew it ourselves and critique our attempts while we wait to see yours on the shelves.
Will there be coke and hookers?
What's your recipe? We'd like to brew it ourselves and critique our attempts while we wait to see yours on the shelves.
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: Tom on September 04, 2015, 09:35:59 PM
Post by: Tom on September 04, 2015, 09:35:59 PM
An expensive shed. REALLY expensive. It's a warehouse that revenue are satisfied is secure from ANY trespass, (CCTV, shutters, alarms), and that the warehouse keeper (you) can definitely afford the duty.
http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/leaflets/index.html (http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/leaflets/index.html)
Start with leaflets 1886, 1887, 1888 & 1890. There's also really important information on Direct Debit Guarantees. AEP or something.
Head frying, but navigable.
*edit* sorry, didn't see the other replies on page two!
http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/leaflets/index.html (http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/leaflets/index.html)
Start with leaflets 1886, 1887, 1888 & 1890. There's also really important information on Direct Debit Guarantees. AEP or something.
Head frying, but navigable.
*edit* sorry, didn't see the other replies on page two!
Title: Re: 30 and 50 litre Pub kegs for lager
Post by: St. Fursey on September 05, 2015, 09:55:58 PM
Post by: St. Fursey on September 05, 2015, 09:55:58 PM
Dont forget you're going to need equipment for filling and cleaning kegs. Chemicals, discharge licence, traceability system - the list goes on!