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Brewing Discussions => Yeast Board => Topic started by: Leann ull on September 09, 2015, 12:53:01 PM

Title: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: Leann ull on September 09, 2015, 12:53:01 PM
It looks and feels very similar to large Mayo or ketchup sachets you get!

BB date is great and I gather viability is better as well.

Chris didn't tell me but I'm nearly certain it's a Nylon 6 or better still 12 inner layer which has the best 02 resistance, now what to do with all my old vials

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Title: Re: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: johnrm on September 09, 2015, 02:32:55 PM
I think the address is funny.
Candida Street.

Probably named after the saint, not the bacteria.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candida_(fungus)
http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=2578
Title: Re: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: DEMPSEY on September 09, 2015, 02:41:30 PM
Me thought you had designed a new beer when I read it first. :)
Title: Re: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: Beermonger on September 09, 2015, 06:29:58 PM
Six months from manufacturing to best before! That's great news. The only thing is that all the online yeast calcs are assuming that the viability falls off faster. Hope they'll be updated soon.

Candida Street: yeah, apparently it was called than before they moved into it. I'm sure they would have preferred Saccharomyces Street.
Title: Re: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: dcalnan on September 09, 2015, 09:16:56 PM
Didn't Chris mention that the machine they used to make the purepitch packages was built in Ireland? They look really good, and should be easier to store than the vials.
Title: Re: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: Will_D on September 11, 2015, 09:34:03 PM
Given the reduced production costs  (less processes) and packaging cost ( a contuous sausage of nylon etc tubing must be cheaper than those heavier Pet Tubes).

Talking of weight: These must be much cheaper to post/air freight than the old vials.

I would assume then that there will be a price reduction?

Or am I just nieve??
Title: Re: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: Leann ull on September 11, 2015, 09:40:56 PM
You are naive!
Title: Re: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: Will_D on September 11, 2015, 09:50:39 PM
John, as you are probaly aware the cost of packaging way outstrips the cost of the contents.
Then ther is distribution costs: based on weight or volume - whichever is the most expensive!

Think Pringles, Lucozade/Redbull and now this!

I would be very upset if the price goes up on the basis of improved shelf life due to revolutionary process/packing technology
Title: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: Leann ull on September 11, 2015, 11:14:21 PM
Sorry if that came across as being rude Mr D.
Chris was kind enough in the week I spent with him to give me an insight into the costs associated this new format, the reality is that the older format is more cost effective as it's more mainstream, the executive summary is that after the initial capital investment it's cost neutral if you factor in things like WW patents.
The major point for us as Homebrewers is the increased viability and longevity of the product.
The recent increase in price is a reflection of FX and nothing to do with margins or product costs.
Title: Re: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: Simon_ on September 12, 2015, 07:09:43 AM
Competition will drive prices down and there is a slew of new entrants. Prices will slowly come down
Title: Re: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: Leann ull on September 12, 2015, 10:00:14 AM
Sorry but you won't see any reductions from existing players, for new entrants entry costs are huge and plant hygiene is on a scale none of us have any comprehension of, there may be price tweaking if the dollar tanks but that's it :(
For me yeast is the most important ingredient and has the biggest impact on what I brew, so I want the freshest most viable product not the cheapest.
Title: Re: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: molc on September 12, 2015, 10:19:17 AM
Also, once we get a Sample, it's not hard for us to keep it alive for 7 or so reuses unless it's a yeast that's not commonly used. Couple that with club yeast banks, and a high quality product suddenly becomes quite cheap for us on our small scale.
Title: Re: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: Leann ull on September 12, 2015, 10:37:08 AM
I thought you fellas in NCB had the largest Yeast Bank on the Island in any case :P
Title: Re: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: Will_D on September 12, 2015, 10:39:45 AM
Probably the best yeast bank in the country
Title: Re: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: Leann ull on September 12, 2015, 10:46:05 AM
And some of it came from the estuary and not forgetting the Dollymount strain :o
Title: Re: White labs Tomato Sauce
Post by: Bubbles on September 12, 2015, 01:57:52 PM

Quote from: Ciderhead on September 12, 2015, 10:46:05 AM
And some of it came from the estuary and not forgetting the Dollymount strain :o

That takes me back..

I now think of that whenever I taste certain kinds of homebrew..