Title: Ingredient challenge
Post by: imark on October 09, 2015, 12:17:22 PM
Post by: imark on October 09, 2015, 12:17:22 PM
I was thinking it might be interesting if we picked a specific ingredient (spice, fruit, etc) and went off to create a brew that incorporated the ingredient. We could bring our brews to a tasting a couple of months later and see what we all came up with. There would be no restrictions on style other than you make the beer/cider/wine of your choice and the ingredient is incorporated. It would just be a bit of fun but it would be interesting to see the different ways we would use the chosen ingredient. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on October 09, 2015, 06:24:20 PM
Post by: DamienE on October 09, 2015, 06:24:20 PM
Great idea
I'd like to try maple syrup in a brew - like in Anchor Bigleaf Autumn Red
I'd like to try maple syrup in a brew - like in Anchor Bigleaf Autumn Red
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: lordstilton on October 09, 2015, 06:26:14 PM
Post by: lordstilton on October 09, 2015, 06:26:14 PM
Great minds Damien... I was thinking the same myself
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: lordstilton on October 09, 2015, 06:30:45 PM
Post by: lordstilton on October 09, 2015, 06:30:45 PM
After quick research turns out maple syrup just dries out beer with no flavour... How about cardamon?
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: nigel_c on October 09, 2015, 06:50:52 PM
Post by: nigel_c on October 09, 2015, 06:50:52 PM
If your looking for a maple finish add fenegreek. You get nothing from maple syrup.
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: imark on October 09, 2015, 07:01:11 PM
Post by: imark on October 09, 2015, 07:01:11 PM
Great suggestions. There's a beer that's aged in a whiskey barrel that had maple syrup aged in it before hand. Can't remember the name right now. It's an imperial stout I think. I haven't had it but it's intriguing.
I was thinking about any citrus to start. You could use dried bitter orange peel or fresh rind. It's used across a very wide range of styles and is easy enough to start with because it's hard to overdo.
Let's get ideas out there and then we can choose one and set a meet to brew for. I think Christmas meet might be the first possible one.
I was thinking about any citrus to start. You could use dried bitter orange peel or fresh rind. It's used across a very wide range of styles and is easy enough to start with because it's hard to overdo.
Let's get ideas out there and then we can choose one and set a meet to brew for. I think Christmas meet might be the first possible one.
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: lordstilton on October 09, 2015, 08:21:21 PM
Post by: lordstilton on October 09, 2015, 08:21:21 PM
Fenegreek ...never would of thought that would produce maple flavour....yet another spice to fire into the smithwicks beer!!!!
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on October 09, 2015, 08:46:08 PM
Post by: DamienE on October 09, 2015, 08:46:08 PM
Thanks guys. So it's just good for priming & doesn't really present in flavour.
Saved me a few batches of experimenting with maple syrup
Saved me a few batches of experimenting with maple syrup
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: lordstilton on October 09, 2015, 09:25:11 PM
Post by: lordstilton on October 09, 2015, 09:25:11 PM
so more research reveals that fenegreek just enhances the maple flavour in jaggery...on its own its not too pleasant.
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: Leann ull on October 09, 2015, 09:27:57 PM
Post by: Leann ull on October 09, 2015, 09:27:57 PM
Could you kill the yeast and add to keg or bottle?
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: imark on October 09, 2015, 09:34:45 PM
Post by: imark on October 09, 2015, 09:34:45 PM
You probably could do that but you'd have a sweet beer. I'd imagine it's the phenols in the maple that you're looking for in the beer to give it the maple signature.
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: imark on October 09, 2015, 09:39:11 PM
Post by: imark on October 09, 2015, 09:39:11 PM
The fenugreek thing is interesting. I can kinda imagine how it could work but I wouldn't have made the connection without it being mentioned. It's definitely going on the list.
@nigel have you used it in a beer? I'm guessing it's very low dose.
@nigel have you used it in a beer? I'm guessing it's very low dose.
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: Eoin on October 09, 2015, 10:02:30 PM
Post by: Eoin on October 09, 2015, 10:02:30 PM
Fenugreek would stop you farting so much from the beer.
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: nigel_c on October 09, 2015, 10:50:30 PM
Post by: nigel_c on October 09, 2015, 10:50:30 PM
Yeah I used a few grams in a demi of stout a good while back. It does work. Something I've been meaning to revisit again.
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: imark on October 10, 2015, 08:54:02 AM
Post by: imark on October 10, 2015, 08:54:02 AM
Quote from: Eoin on October 09, 2015, 10:02:30 PMWife will be delighted with that news coming into stout season
Fenugreek would stop you farting so much from the beer.
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: Bubbles on October 10, 2015, 10:43:44 AM
Post by: Bubbles on October 10, 2015, 10:43:44 AM
I recall reading this about fenugreek in Randy Mosher's Radical book.
Though fenugreek has a slightly unpleasant side effect. It does a similar thing to sweat as asparagus does to urine.
Though fenugreek has a slightly unpleasant side effect. It does a similar thing to sweat as asparagus does to urine.
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: Dunkel on October 11, 2015, 06:21:47 PM
Post by: Dunkel on October 11, 2015, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: Bubbles on October 10, 2015, 10:43:44 AM
I recall reading this about fenugreek in Randy Mosher's Radical book.
Though fenugreek has a slightly unpleasant side effect. It does a similar thing to sweat as asparagus does to urine.
And that's unpleasant? ;D
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: imark on October 23, 2015, 04:38:12 PM
Post by: imark on October 23, 2015, 04:38:12 PM
Who's on for trialing this with fenugreek so? Christmas shindig would be the earliest we could reasonably expect to have this for I suppose
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: lordstilton on October 23, 2015, 04:51:06 PM
Post by: lordstilton on October 23, 2015, 04:51:06 PM
Chalk me down
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on October 23, 2015, 07:28:14 PM
Post by: DamienE on October 23, 2015, 07:28:14 PM
I'm up for it. Already found it at Eurospar 0.79ct packet
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on October 23, 2015, 07:48:16 PM
Post by: DamienE on October 23, 2015, 07:48:16 PM
Anchor website claims maple syrup used. Maybe it's just for a portion of carbonation
https://www.anchorbrewing.com/mobile/beer/bigleaf_maple
https://www.anchorbrewing.com/mobile/beer/bigleaf_maple
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: irish_goat on October 23, 2015, 08:12:13 PM
Post by: irish_goat on October 23, 2015, 08:12:13 PM
Dogfish Head have a few beers with maple syrup in them as well. I think they "finish" it with maple syrup so it might be pasteurised beforehand so the syrup isn't fermented out.
http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/immort-ale.htm
http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/immort-ale.htm
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: imark on November 05, 2015, 05:35:32 PM
Post by: imark on November 05, 2015, 05:35:32 PM
Well there's at least 3 of us interested in giving this ago. If we're going to do this for the xmas gig we'd need to get it on the go very soon. Is it realistic to aim for the xmas gig?
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: lordstilton on November 05, 2015, 06:11:19 PM
Post by: lordstilton on November 05, 2015, 06:11:19 PM
too much championship brewing to do between this and then...only 88 days left!!
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on November 06, 2015, 01:17:31 PM
Post by: DamienE on November 06, 2015, 01:17:31 PM
Will we leave it till sometime in the new year
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: imark on November 06, 2015, 01:32:13 PM
Post by: imark on November 06, 2015, 01:32:13 PM
Ok. How about Feb meet for tasting? That's 4 months notice.
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on November 06, 2015, 03:13:34 PM
Post by: DamienE on November 06, 2015, 03:13:34 PM
Sounds good to me
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: imark on January 11, 2016, 09:46:06 AM
Post by: imark on January 11, 2016, 09:46:06 AM
Now that we've gotten all our competition beers brewed we can get back to this
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: Bubbles on January 11, 2016, 10:50:56 AM
Post by: Bubbles on January 11, 2016, 10:50:56 AM
For those interested in some recipe research, Brooklyn also do a limited release maple beer:
http://brooklynbrewery.com/brooklyn-beers/brewmasters-reserve/mary-s-maple-porter
http://brooklynbrewery.com/brooklyn-beers/brewmasters-reserve/mary-s-maple-porter
Title: Ingredient challenge
Post by: Leann ull on January 11, 2016, 03:22:49 PM
Post by: Leann ull on January 11, 2016, 03:22:49 PM
Two fellas sitting on the gate taking the air outside the mental asylum in Enniscorthy, farmer trundles past with a horse and cart full of horse shit.
Where are you going with that?
I'm taking it home to put on my strawberries.
You want to come in here the other one says, we get cream on ours.
I had to read that twice as I just saw Meth seeds!
Where are you going with that?
I'm taking it home to put on my strawberries.
You want to come in here the other one says, we get cream on ours.
I had to read that twice as I just saw Meth seeds!
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: imark on January 11, 2016, 03:41:20 PM
Post by: imark on January 11, 2016, 03:41:20 PM
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l2okcaPMGo1qc0j4vo1_500.png)
Martin: uh sir, why don't you just use real cows?
Teamster: cows don't look like cows on film, you gotta use horses.
Ralph: what do you do if you want something that looks like a horse?
Teamster: eh, usually we just tape a bunch of cats together.
Same principle applies to beer
Martin: uh sir, why don't you just use real cows?
Teamster: cows don't look like cows on film, you gotta use horses.
Ralph: what do you do if you want something that looks like a horse?
Teamster: eh, usually we just tape a bunch of cats together.
Same principle applies to beer
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on January 11, 2016, 06:30:17 PM
Post by: DamienE on January 11, 2016, 06:30:17 PM
http://www.vermonthomebrew.com/using-maple-sap-syrup-homebrewed-beer
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: imark on January 12, 2016, 05:40:55 PM
Post by: imark on January 12, 2016, 05:40:55 PM
Quote from: DamienE on January 11, 2016, 06:30:17 PMNo mention of fenugreek there either
http://www.vermonthomebrew.com/using-maple-sap-syrup-homebrewed-beer
Are you going to go the maple syrup route Damien? Be interesting to see how they compare.
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on January 12, 2016, 06:39:08 PM
Post by: DamienE on January 12, 2016, 06:39:08 PM
I'm going to add as late kettle addition to batch
Split at secondary with no fenugreek & some fenugreek
Any idea of qty of fenugreek per litre to use
Split at secondary with no fenugreek & some fenugreek
Any idea of qty of fenugreek per litre to use
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on January 12, 2016, 06:59:37 PM
Post by: DamienE on January 12, 2016, 06:59:37 PM
Didn't mention above. Late kettle addition will be maple syrup
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: imark on January 13, 2016, 10:27:34 AM
Post by: imark on January 13, 2016, 10:27:34 AM
I plan on adding about 10g of toasted and a crushed seed to secondary.
If it needs more I can always add it but I can't take it out. ☺
If it needs more I can always add it but I can't take it out. ☺
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on January 13, 2016, 11:59:07 AM
Post by: DamienE on January 13, 2016, 11:59:07 AM
I might split secondary into
10 litre @ 0g
5 litre @ 1g
5 litre @ 2g
10 litre @ 0g
5 litre @ 1g
5 litre @ 2g
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: imark on January 20, 2016, 01:53:04 PM
Post by: imark on January 20, 2016, 01:53:04 PM
Getting my fenugreek/maple beer on this evening now that competition brews are out of the way.
Anybody else getting one of these on soon? Would be cool if there were a couple to compare at Feb or Mar meet.
Anybody else getting one of these on soon? Would be cool if there were a couple to compare at Feb or Mar meet.
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on January 20, 2016, 08:06:42 PM
Post by: DamienE on January 20, 2016, 08:06:42 PM
I'll be doing mine weekend after next
So should be ready for March meet
I'm thinking of doing a brown or amber
So should be ready for March meet
I'm thinking of doing a brown or amber
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: imark on January 25, 2016, 01:36:04 PM
Post by: imark on January 25, 2016, 01:36:04 PM
Going to add fenugreek to mine tonight.
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on January 25, 2016, 11:36:43 PM
Post by: DamienE on January 25, 2016, 11:36:43 PM
I'll be brewing mine this weekend
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on January 30, 2016, 03:56:42 PM
Post by: DamienE on January 30, 2016, 03:56:42 PM
22 litre amber @ 1.052
450 g maple syrup added @ 10min left in boil
450 g maple syrup added @ 10min left in boil
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on February 08, 2016, 08:13:09 PM
Post by: DamienE on February 08, 2016, 08:13:09 PM
Transferred to secondary @ 1.011
16L 0g fenugreek
4L 1g fenugreek
4L 2g fenugreek
16L 0g fenugreek
4L 1g fenugreek
4L 2g fenugreek
Title: Re: Ingredient challenge
Post by: DamienE on February 14, 2016, 04:35:22 PM
Post by: DamienE on February 14, 2016, 04:35:22 PM
Bottled today
Finished @ 1.011
Finished @ 1.011