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Title: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 13, 2013, 10:58:06 PM
Put Sunday 24th Feb into your calenders -

for a co-op brewday -

Jacob has really got me going on doing a Nelson Single Hop IPA, and we could get Jacobs Gas system over as well - do a double brew
We may even have a bit of a Bar-B-Que - nothing like a bit of horse to break up the day - maybe Nigel can help us there (Zing !)

Anyways - I dont really mind what we attempt to brew - but I have booked the kitchen / Garden and Shed for the day !

Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 13, 2013, 11:08:13 PM
I've ordered the nice weather  what else can I do?

Camera? Check
Thirst?  Check Check
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Rats on February 14, 2013, 11:33:38 AM
Would love to come, but have 2 birthdays and a house warming the Saturday :P
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Jacob on February 14, 2013, 11:46:00 AM
Here's a list of recipes that I have in mind :

1. International Homebrew Project 2013
2. Smoked Porter
3. '3' Grains (Pils/Wheat/Rye) Weizen

With the 3rd one we could use some wlp300 slurry James :P
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Bubbles on February 14, 2013, 11:52:24 AM
Lads, I've got a hefe in the fermenter at the moment and I'll probably be bottling in the next week or so. I'll bottle up some WLP300 slurry for you if you want?

Conor.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 14, 2013, 12:10:49 PM
Sounds like a plan to me :)
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 14, 2013, 10:30:14 PM
So this will be the first NCB co-operative brew day.

Now apart from lurking with long lens ( papparazzii style ) and talking nerdy science ( ad. infinitum ) what else can I do to contribute in a positive way??

What about food? Sloooowwwly  cooked steaks??

I once cooked a 2.5 kilo sirloin for about 4 hours and it was still rare!

Ok by me , if OK by James then Will is doing the steak!

Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Jacob on February 15, 2013, 08:33:03 AM
4h and you call it slowly cooked??
Last time it took me 7h to cook pork shoulder :P
Best piece of pork I've ever had!

Btw. what do you think about those tshirts? :)
(http://image10.spreadshirt.net/image-server/v1/products/27297438/views/1,width=378,height=378,appearanceId=2/Suit-v2.png)
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 15, 2013, 10:35:44 AM
Very Smart 8-)
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Jacob on February 15, 2013, 12:36:54 PM
Quote1. International Homebrew Project 2013
2. Smoked Porter
3. '3' Grains (Pils/Wheat/Rye) Weizen
Are we going to vote for one of those or do we want to
include other recipes? :P
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 15, 2013, 12:47:42 PM
If I've numbers I and a few days notice I'm sure I can come up with tasty for a BBQ
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: DEMPSEY on February 15, 2013, 12:52:41 PM
Did somebody mention slow cooked shoulder of pork :)
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Jacob on February 15, 2013, 01:14:07 PM
QuoteDid somebody mention slow cooked shoulder of pork :)
Yep, for 7 hours. Did I mentioned lovely gravy made from all the pork fat/juices and roasted vegs?
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: DEMPSEY on February 15, 2013, 01:17:58 PM
Quote
QuoteDid somebody mention slow cooked shoulder of pork :)
Yep, for 7 hours. Did I mentioned lovely gravy made from all the pork fat/juices and roasted vegs?
That's just food porn chat,I luuuve slow cooked pork and all the trimmings. :)
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 18, 2013, 10:40:41 AM
This is all confirmed now ..

Do we all want to brew the same recipe or is that a bit boring ?

I probably need to get the yeast sorted soon -

unless of course its WLP001 or WLP300 which I have slurry that is less than 7 days old.


How many people are brewing ??

So far

1: Partridge
2: Jacob


Any one else want to brew ? I dont mind either way.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 18, 2013, 10:45:06 AM
Let me know how your sorted for ingredients. Have a fair bit in stock. Someone fancy doing something ott ? Big Doible IPA / barleywine/ imperial stout and split the cost?
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Jacob on February 18, 2013, 11:31:59 AM
Decided then! I'm going to brew '3 grains' :P

2.00 kg Pils
2.00 kg Wheat
0.50 kg Rye
0.10 kg Crystal 33
0.50 kg Vienna

James WLP300 would be my yeast choice :)

Still not sure about hops :/
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 18, 2013, 12:18:48 PM
I am not brewing.

But will help out with the cooking - is it going to a slow roast pork?

Photos naturally.

@Jacob - if you are use rye then why not lean towards a Roggen?

I might even have some smoked rye! Will check
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 18, 2013, 12:22:41 PM
List Required!

How many people are comming and what are we doing??

Brewing:

1: Partridge
2: Jacob (3 grain beer)

Cooking:

1: Will ( &photos)


Helping Out:

1:
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Jacob on February 18, 2013, 12:58:51 PM
Quote
@Jacob - if you are use rye then why not lean towards a Roggen?
Just want to mix wheat with rye to see how far will it be from the roggen. If you have some smoke rye malt I would be interested in brewing smoked roggen next time.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Cahalbrua on February 18, 2013, 05:47:48 PM

Ill bring my hop rocket, Can bring my barley crusher if required!
also any grain hops or yeast needed let me know.

1: Partridge
2: Jacob (3 grain beer)

Cooking:

1: Will ( &photos)


Helping Out:

1:Cahalbrua
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 18, 2013, 08:40:03 PM
Have hops grains and yeasts if needed as well. Will post any spares in the swap section if anybody wants anything brought along.

1: Partridge
2: Jacob (3 grain beer)

Cooking:

1: Will ( &photos)


Helping Out:

1:Cahalbrua
1 Nigel
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 18, 2013, 10:42:07 PM
Food:

There seems to be a leaning (or is crackling) towards some slow roast pork)

@nigel once we have an idea of numbers how much notice do you need to obtain a shoulder?

If its not pork and then its a large hunk of steak - same question!

If I go to a decent butcher in these parts then they need a good few days notice so if nigel can source the meat then we split the cost with him!

Assume if there's about 5 so far then on the day maybe about 10

@james: Is the family away for the day?

@all NCBrewers: @all newcommers to NCB: This will be a great day of brewing, drinking, and pigging out ( assuming no beef (horse))

@james: Many thanks for hosting this

@Demspey: You and Tube comming? (I believe from the illustrious leader it may be your turn to drive? ) If not Malahide is on the Dart, and its only 5 mins walk to James' (if you know the secret short cuts)

Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 18, 2013, 10:46:49 PM
Beef is not a problem. Have some top stick in at the moment. Pork may be a problem.

How about a slow cooked for rib of beef on the bone? :p
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 18, 2013, 11:01:13 PM
QuoteBeef is not a problem. Have some top stick in at the moment. Pork may be a problem.

How about a slow cooked for rib of beef on the bone? :p

Will do for me!!

Are we going to BBQ it slooooowwwwllllyyy?

So max size just needs to fit into James' or my BBQ!!
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 18, 2013, 11:22:37 PM
Just let me know numbers by Friday ish.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 19, 2013, 10:18:48 AM
Quote
QuoteBeef is not a problem. Have some top stick in at the moment. Pork may be a problem.

How about a slow cooked for rib of beef on the bone? :p

Will do for me!!

Are we going to BBQ it slooooowwwwllllyyy?

So max size just needs to fit into James' or my BBQ!!


Its ok

I have a big Bar-B-Que -

its 3 gas one of these - two grills and one flat pan (for onions!)

http://www.thebbqstore.co.uk/p17/Outback-Hunter-Select-3-Burner-Hooded-Gas-Barbecue/product_info.html

Don't worry - I didn't pay that for mine !
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Jacob on February 19, 2013, 12:29:11 PM
At what time are we planning to start on Sunday?
Also, James could you PM me your address please?

Other question. Are we going to put an info about Co-Op brew day on the main page?
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 19, 2013, 01:15:28 PM
Pm address as well please.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 19, 2013, 10:27:28 PM
QuoteFood:

There seems to be a leaning (or is crackling) towards some slow roast pork)

@nigel once we have an idea of numbers how much notice do you need to obtain a shoulder?

If its not pork and then its a large hunk of steak - same question!

If I go to a decent butcher in these parts then they need a good few days notice so if nigel can source the meat then we split the cost with him!

Assume if there's about 5 so far then on the day maybe about 10

@james: Is the family away for the day?

@all NCBrewers: @all newcommers to NCB: This will be a great day of brewing, drinking, and pigging out ( assuming no beef (horse))

@james: Many thanks for hosting this

@Demspey: You and Tube comming? (I believe from the illustrious leader it may be your turn to drive? ) If not Malahide is on the Dart, and its only 5 mins walk to James' (if you know the secret short cuts)


The Family are planning to be away - they might be popping in and out - but they are generally out.

I have the place booked from about 9 am to 4pm

I think that should be fine

What time do you think we should start ??

Is 9 too early ? Maybe 9:30 / 10 am ?

I dont mind either way - I suppose people will be drifting in as the day goes on...
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 19, 2013, 10:34:42 PM
All welcome

Should be a blast.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Ciderhead on February 19, 2013, 10:39:18 PM
Snow flurries forecast for week-end
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 19, 2013, 10:40:36 PM
I hope you mean coming off the boiler !

Do you fancy coming round John - I believe we owe you a lunch !
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 19, 2013, 10:42:32 PM
Your such a messer - the forecast is for

6C, low wind and 0% chance of rain !

Perrr fect for brewing !


Maybe not for a barbque - but what the heck - we set the trends at the NHC !
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 19, 2013, 10:48:07 PM
For the slow roast beef 9 am is looking favourite!

Also There is a small Rugby Match on in th eafternoon!
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 19, 2013, 10:54:46 PM
No worries - I set the start to 9am !
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 19, 2013, 10:58:20 PM

1: Partridge
2: Jacob (3 grain beer)
3: Will ( &photos)
4: Cahalbrua
5: Nigel

Any others interested please add you name to the list !
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 19, 2013, 11:01:51 PM
QuoteNo worries - I set the start to 9am !

OMG, I will probably be sleepwalking down to Chalfont!!

The last time I saw 9 on a clock it was the 9 o'clock news on the BBC (PM!!)

However, looking forward to a great day out
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 19, 2013, 11:05:35 PM
Ok its in the Calendar !
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: BeZ on February 20, 2013, 07:34:28 AM
Hey folks,

new to the site, I was just wondering where this is on? Mohr fancy a visit if that's allowed.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Jacob on February 20, 2013, 07:58:26 AM
@BeZ

I'll repeat after James

QuoteAll welcome

Should be a blast.

We'll be brewing in Malahide. PM Partridge9 for details if interested.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Ciderhead on February 20, 2013, 08:26:43 AM
QuoteI hope you mean coming off the boiler !

Do you fancy coming round John - I believe we owe you a lunch !

Sorry I have a date with homebrew, a rugby match and a blazing fire, thanks for the offer though
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Jacob on February 20, 2013, 08:28:14 AM
Folks, looks like we are sorted with the food but what about drinks? :P

I don't mind drinking James's finest but don't think that it will be fair to our host.
What about if we'll bring something for tasting?
I can even bring a cornie of Belgian Pale Ale (~10-15l).

@Will: that's the same you got from me last week. Is it good enough?
@James: will you have some free space in your kegerator to plug it in? (If not I can bring picnik tap with me, it should be cold enough outside to keep it chill :P)
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 20, 2013, 10:10:50 AM
QuoteFolks, looks like we are sorted with the food but what about drinks? :P

@Will: that's the same you got from me last week. Is it good enough?


Yes please it was delicious.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 20, 2013, 11:26:12 AM
The Beef is leading the timeline. It needs about 6 or 7 hours slow cooking. If we aim to eat at 4 then thats the start off it. As I am hust up the road from James I will be down with him from 9. James will probably start a brew off at 10 or 11 and  so times are pretty flexible What do you think James.

PS: @Tube was just having chat with Dempsey - suggested you get the Dart or the commuter up to Malahide, then either phone and one of us will pick you up, or walk( :o - 5 mins) or a taxi ( €5 )

Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 20, 2013, 02:00:58 PM
Will need to know numbers by Friday for the beef.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 20, 2013, 02:14:05 PM
Quote
That was until I spotted that it's a Sunday, which is a school night! I thought it was Saturday, so I probably won't make it.

School Night?

We plan on being finished by 5 or 6 at latest? Its up to James and the family when they want us out!!
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 20, 2013, 02:16:26 PM
Re: The beef

Have just met up with Nigel. He will get the beef to me on Saturday so we can get it on early. The rest of ye can have a lie in.

When do you think we start the brewing James as that is what most people are interested in?
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 20, 2013, 03:27:55 PM
QuoteAre you seriously starting at 9am?

Your welcome at any time  ;)
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Rats on February 20, 2013, 03:47:28 PM
Sounds like a ball.
Might make it after all.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Rats on February 20, 2013, 03:48:24 PM
1: Partridge
2: Jacob (3 grain beer)
3: Will ( &photos)
4: Cahalbrua
5: Nigel
6: Ratsathome(Renier)
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 22, 2013, 09:53:56 AM
Great stuff - got the RO system yesterday - jeasus looks complicated!
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 22, 2013, 09:56:45 AM
Have to say still undecided on the brew -

was talking to cathal about possibly doing a belgian.

I have to say - with the WLP300 ready to rock -

Maybe the easiest is to do Jacobs brew - the three grains.

Do you have spare rye Jacob ? I have wheat and Pilsen malt.

Cathal - have you made you mind up if you are brewing or not ?

Its does'nt really matter - completely up to you.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Jacob on February 22, 2013, 10:06:19 AM
QuoteHave to say still undecided on the brew
What about IHBP 2013?

QuoteDo you have spare rye Jacob ?
:(
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 22, 2013, 10:32:15 AM
If your thinking about a Belgian how about a Belgian saison? Ill be racking to 2nd tonight or tomorrow so plenty of fresh yeast.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 22, 2013, 01:01:47 PM
Right I have the beef put by. Looks delicious. Will be delivering to Will tomorrow so final numbers would be great do decide how much of this mouth watering beast we need.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Jacob on February 22, 2013, 01:06:29 PM
Quotehow much of this mouth watering beast we need.
All of it!!  8-)
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 22, 2013, 01:07:02 PM
Hahaha done  :P
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 22, 2013, 03:04:25 PM
I pm'd Tube, Dempsey and 3 newbees

Tube just mailed back saying that he'd pm'd you.

Didn't actually tell me if they were comming!

Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 22, 2013, 03:12:42 PM
Well we should have loads. It's about 3.5 kg rib eye
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Cahalbrua on February 22, 2013, 04:50:33 PM
James -
yeah ill do a brew if you think theirs the space,also if theirs a slow roast on your bbq i could bring my portable cadac bbq incase anyones hungry while waiting.Do you want me to bring any food, salad etc.

Nigel  -
If you have some yeast ready to roll that would be great,what specialty grains did you use for your saison,looking at a saison recipe here that calls for cara vienne and cara munich have'nt got either.

Here's what i do have if anyone wants to swap for something more suitable for a saison.
Munich
roast
flaked
chocolate
black
amber
peated
biscuit
aromatic
wheat
torrified wheat
cara red

Would aromatic or biscuit be useable ?

Jacob -
I brought a keg a short distance up the road to a party on day of party and it was pouring more than half foam.
might be an idea to get the keg over on saturday.

Ill bring some bottled stout and AIPA
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 22, 2013, 05:00:24 PM
QuoteFolks, looks like we are sorted with the food but what about drinks? :P

I don't mind drinking James's finest but don't think that it will be fair to our host.
What about if we'll bring something for tasting?
I can even bring a cornie of Belgian Pale Ale (~10-15l).

@Will: that's the same you got from me last week. Is it good enough?
@James: will you have some free space in your kegerator to plug it in? (If not I can bring picnik tap with me, it should be cold enough outside to keep it chill :P)

Yea - of course there is space in my kegerator for your beer !!

That would be great - I am a little low on beer - brewing for a wedding - so that is very much appreciated !
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 22, 2013, 05:01:54 PM
@Cathal -

I like all those grains !

@Nigel -

The Saison sounds good - what was your recipe - probably easier if cathal knows what to bring.

As I said - I have pils / wheat and pale ale - oh I have a lot of crystal as well  ;)
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 22, 2013, 05:10:12 PM
Pale, Wheat and some Vienna / Munich is what i used. nice and simple. I used elderflower and a small amount of magnum for bittering. I have some vienna if you want me bring some along.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Jacob on February 22, 2013, 06:07:37 PM
Quote
Jacob -
I brought a keg a short distance up the road to a party on day of party and it was pouring more than half foam.
might be an idea to get the keg over on saturday.
Good idea. Will try to drop by with a cornie 2morrow then.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 22, 2013, 07:13:29 PM
I'll bring over a keg of cider.

At the moment its 2C so I have just put the milk in the fridge to warm up!

A keg outside over Saturday night will be colder than in the Kegerator.

I will bring the gravy making bits and pieces.

Also some onions/garlic/mustard/horseraddish(made from a faller at Leopardstown)  etc.

What are we having with the beef? Bread rolls, Burger Buns?

Will
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Ciderhead on February 22, 2013, 08:18:18 PM
QuoteYour such a messer - the forecast is for

6C, low wind and 0% chance of rain !

Perrr fect for brewing !


Maybe not for a barbque - but what the heck - we set the trends at the NHC !

And todays forecast ahem  :o,   I also deliver post in Kerry ;D

"The cold and mostly dry weather will continue on Saturday night, Sunday and for much of next week. During this period it will be mostly dry with sunny spells by day and with clear spells at night. However a few wintry showers of sleet or snow are possible in coastal counties of east Ulster and Leinster on Saturday night and Sunday"

Wear woolies chaps I'm sorry I cant make it, Nigel I gave Will 2 items for you, and a Donegal blonde for you all to try, interested to hear all your thoughts on that one. Brendan the Head Brewer will be selling it in The B&C in bottles and promised to bring us a case down!!

Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Jacob on February 22, 2013, 08:34:29 PM
QuoteWhat are we having with the beef? Bread rolls, Burger Buns?Will
Little too late, but next time will bake some bread.
In that case bread rolls would be my choice :P
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 22, 2013, 09:38:23 PM
You can never go wrong with a flowery bap  :)
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 22, 2013, 10:03:59 PM
QuoteYou can never go wrong with a flowery bap  :)

+100
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 23, 2013, 12:50:46 PM
Have just checked my malt stocks!

For some reason (pissed while ordering, maybe) I have found 4 x 500 gms of Roast Rye. Will bring a few bags tomorrow.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Rats on February 24, 2013, 11:04:32 AM
Sorry guys would not be able to make it :-[
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 24, 2013, 07:24:10 PM
So after a snowy start we got 3 brews on. The beef was gently marinated by hail/snow every time Will checked the BBQ. When our illustrious leader the Mighty Tube arrived the sun came out! (IT must be true what they whisper about him: "The sun truly does shine o o h a !")

A great day for all and much thanks to James and family for hosting us:

Here'the link to flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrfc_photos/sets/72157632849035822/

Attatched a couple of shots:

Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Ciderhead on February 24, 2013, 08:12:24 PM
Looks like a nice joint , but who was avoiding horse with 2 lonely sausages :)

What did you guys think of the Donegal blonde?
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: DEMPSEY on February 24, 2013, 08:15:33 PM
The Beef look's awesome,I say it went well with the beers. :).
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 24, 2013, 08:40:55 PM
QuoteLooks like a nice joint , but who was avoiding horse with 2 lonely sausages :)

What did you guys think of the Donegal blonde?

The two sausages were kept for Tube!

The DB went down a treat, very 'un-lagery' in the BEST possible definition!

Malty and with floral hops but light in colour and crisp on the palate. It was excellent!
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: nigel_c on February 24, 2013, 08:52:33 PM
Good food and great beer. Great day out. Cheers James and family for a great day. Must arrange a night up in mine soon.
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Partridge9 on February 24, 2013, 10:09:26 PM
Few more snaps ! Great day -
thanks to all who came along -

Its interesting to hear how others brew the same beer - learnt loads.

Thanks to Nigel for organising the meat and thanks for Will for spending the day cooking it !
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Jacob on February 25, 2013, 07:49:12 AM
Great day! Looking forward for next co-op!
Title: Re: Co-Op Brew day !
Post by: Will_D on February 25, 2013, 09:43:52 AM
I thought the beef was supposed to be "Slow" marinaded not "Snow" marinaded!!