So yeah if you are very careful you separate inner and outer layer as I am doing to ensure I get a good split across 2 starters
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Why not just make one double sized starter?
If I make a starter I always pour off spent wort so 2l starter I only use 2-300ml settled yeast, this can be tricky with lager yeasts, but much easier to divide into 2 conicals at this stage and pour than guessing what 50% of yeast left in conical is
Yeah that makes sense.
And just to let you know I did try to pour a yeast slurry into 2 fermenters from 1 conical before, just a little bit more, ok just one last bit..oh bollox
Just got one of these. It claims it's ready to pitch into 20l of wort (under 1.070) so presumably doesn't need a starter?
Looks to be a lot more yeast in there compared to the old vials anyway
I know HB shops get them cold and look after them well I would still make a starter to ensure viability as you don't know how it was handled before you got it sitting on hot air vent of postman pats van etc.
Judged a beer last night underpitched with only one of those.
Aye yer probably right.
Although 2 weeks since manufacturing date and delivery in that weather.... :)
;)
Surprisingly,Chris White wasn't too enthusiastic about starters at brewcon. I would always do one for liquid yeast tbh.
the yanks regularly pitch 2 vials, the flash gits! :D
I've used 3 of the PurePitch packs now, and I'm pretty impressed. I don't have any figures to back this up, but my starters seem to kick off earlier.
I find there's a lot of yeast left in the packet after I pour - you have to leave it suspended over the flask for a minute to let all the goodies roll out.
They're as prone to fizzing as the vials, which caught me unaware the last time I opened one.
I don't separate the two pouches beforehand, I just cut through both at the same time. Is there any advantage to separating them?
Quote from: Bubbles on December 03, 2015, 01:33:19 PM
They're as prone to fizzing as the vials, which caught me unaware the last time I opened one.separating them?
Thanks for the heads up there. I was ok the last time I opened one but would hate to get caught out and have half the yeast on the floor :)
no advantage to separating packet just morbid curiosity just sanitise blades on your scissors, as you never know what could be growing under your toenails.
I just sanitize the outside of the packet and it fits nicely suspended in the demijohn dripping the yeast. I find that to be the best things about them so far.
I was overly concerned about not wanting it spurting out when I snipped it and not concerned enough with breaking up the clump of yeast at the bottom so I ended up with half the important stuff left in the Mr Freeze wrapper.
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There was no way I was leaving that in there so poured some hopefully sterile starter wort into it to wash it out
Quote from: Simon_ on December 11, 2015, 03:27:16 PM
I was overly concerned about not wanting it spurting out when I snipped it and not concerned enough with breaking up the clump of yeast at the bottom so I ended up with half the important stuff left in the Mr Freeze wrapper.
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There was no way I was leaving that in there so poured some hopefully sterile starter wort into it to wash it out
I found that I didn't need to rinse it out. Just hold it over the flask for a minute and will eventually all drop out.
Give it a massage before your open and it should just slide right out
Yeah I'll do that next time. I was afraid a massage would lead to over stimulation followed by spurting :o
I've learned this too, thought I had mixed it well enough but there was still some left inside. Plus I need to get a sharper scissors to open the packet.
My process is now gingerly cut it from the outer packaging give a massive shake sit it in half a pint of starsan along with the open scissors, take out shake and sterilise other side and let it settle for 2 mins. I know thats overkill but hey!
The first of the old tubes I ever used was Irish Ale and I shook the shite out of it and then cracked it, it went everywhere and I lost 3/4 of the vial :(
They are just as fiddly as the tubes but for me the shelf life and health is a massive plus.