Ladies and Gents, Its Nationals time again.
We are following the format of previous years by running the competition over 2 days and in 2 venues.
The first leg will be in Belfast with the Belfast Homebrewers hosting.
The second leg and BOS will take place in Dublin.
Venues are TBA.
The Competition website is in the process of being updated and is expected live by Dec 1st.
NHC full members only. (For membership and benefits click here (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/becoming-a-member/))
Limit of 1 beer per subcategory per entrant.
There is no limit on overall entry numbers.
Flat fee of EUR5 per entry.
Full details will be available on the National Brewing Championships (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/competition) website.
Dates for your diary...
Jan 31 - Drop points Close
Feb 20 - Belfast
Mar 5 - Dublin
This event can only happen with your input - your entries, stewarding and judging and support.
Get brewing your beers.
Sign up to play your part in the biggest brewing event in the country in 2016!
(edit: date fixed)
March the 6th? Is that correct? Other thread says the 5th (6th is a Sunday)
It's the Sat ;)
And now its official...
http://www.bjcp.org/apps/comp_schedule/competition_schedule.php
Woo Hoo!! Way to go guys and not a round pipe in sight!
Well done competition Bossman, God Bless this ship and all who sail in her
Quote from: Will_D on November 10, 2015, 01:24:52 AM
Woo Hoo!! Way to go guys and not a round pipe in sight!
:D
I think that the competition page needs a bit of an update i.e. it talks about 2015 and that there were 0 entries and 1 registered participant!
I went to the site, its still setup for 2015.
So from the OP, I gather 31st of Jan is the closing date for entries and judging in dublin will be on the march 5th?
Sorry about the delay Anto.
New comp page will be up soon.
Cool cheers!
7.5% raspberry brown rye sour beer category suggestions??
23f 34b or 34c all with a good descriptive to help the judges
Quote from: CH on December 12, 2015, 10:00:31 PM
23f 34b or 34c all with a good descriptive to help the judges
Thanks CH. Looks like its going to have to be the accursed 34c
And so here's the problem with bjcp if you want to win medals brew beer to their styles, your beer sounds amazing and so even if it doesn't conform to bjcp enjoy and share with pals!
Quick update...
National Brewing Championships 2016 site is live.
Closing date for entries is Jan 31st 2016
Please get your entries registered as early as possible to that we can gauge bodies required for the competition.
Drop Points open in Jan.
hello, new here... I am considering entering the competition this year. I am trying to sign up for membership, but the google form is not working. Any thoughts on who to contact?
Quote from: 5MinFinney on December 13, 2015, 08:52:16 PM
hello, new here... I am considering entering the competition this year. I am trying to sign up for membership, but the google form is not working. Any thoughts on who to contact?
Looking into it. Hopefully back live soon.
Just registered there. How important is the drop point option? I'm not sure where I'll end up dropping mine yet, Ive a few bottles at my parents house in kerry and some in cork. I assume we'll get an entry number for each beer so they can be identified from that? So does it matter if a beer turns up at a different drop point?
No it doesn't it just helps us track those that aren't there and allows us work out where we need to send the big truck!
Quote from: 5MinFinney on December 13, 2015, 08:52:16 PM
hello, new here... I am considering entering the competition this year. I am trying to sign up for membership, but the google form is not working. Any thoughts on who to contact?
Back up again. The new fancy look Google Form wasn't too happy being embedded, the original version is back doing it's thing.
What would we do without our techie heads to keep things running. Do ye feel a kinship with Scotty or la Forge on the Star ship Enterprise :D
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/14/3fb6064999bc414c06b83df8cd6f8fd7.jpg)
Everytime I fill in the details and click 'Register' I'm just taken to a blank page :-/
Quote from: robotmonkey on December 15, 2015, 12:29:12 PM
Everytime I fill in the details and click 'Register' I'm just taken to a blank page :-/
what browser are you using? Do you get any messages on the site in a yellow box about the compatability of your browser?
I just tried it there now and I works fine what are you using to try and enter Chrome,Explorer etc?
Edit Jimmy Beat me to it :)
Lads, I think this could be reconsidered:
QuoteMead can be 1 x 330ml ... bottles
Is the 330ml botttle not a bit small? Not all meads are heavy sippers (not mine, unfortunately.. :-[ ) - some meads are 'hydromels', essentially 'session' meads.
Why is wine in 750ml, but mead in 330/500ml?
Sorry Bubbles way too much discussion on this topic already one person wants one thing and somebody wants something else time to move on.
Judges only need 100ml each to taste.
Probably for the last time this year meads will be grouped in with cider as in spite of the massive interest in the style we don't have the knowledge base or skillset as they like ciders are a whole subsection of BJCP.
We achieve the standard in Cider with commercial growers judging.
To do them proper justice more pull from members is required and that may be something you would like to progress through SCD in 2016?
I thought this was the place to ask questions? ???
Fair enough, I'll move on!
What's that you say SCD organising BJCP mead training and a competition, great idea!, happy to help, where do I sign up?
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 02:16:01 PM
What's that you say SCD organising BJCP mead training and a competition, great idea!, happy to help, where do I sign up?
Whaddya mean?? You're the NHC's resident meadmaker and beekeeper! You should be giving the course! ;)
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 12:58:26 PM
I just tried it there now and I works fine what are you using to try and enter Chrome,Explorer etc?
Edit Jimmy Beat me to it :)
Tried it in Chrome and IE11 on Windows 7 and tried it from Chrome on my phone too, getting the same thing :-/
Can you take a screen shot or snip and post it?
Edit I'll leave Jimmy to it as my next suggestion was going to be have you tried switching it off and on again
Quote from: robotmonkey on December 15, 2015, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 12:58:26 PM
I just tried it there now and I works fine what are you using to try and enter Chrome,Explorer etc?
Edit Jimmy Beat me to it :)
Tried it in Chrome and IE11 on Windows 7 and tried it from Chrome on my phone too, getting the same thing :-/
You must be barred then!!
... can you pm me a screenshot or 2 of the form before you press submit...
Quote from: Bubbles on December 15, 2015, 02:48:24 PM
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 02:16:01 PM
What's that you say SCD organising BJCP mead training and a competition, great idea!, happy to help, where do I sign up?
Whaddya mean?? You're the NHC's resident meadmaker and beekeeper! You should be giving the course! ;)
Shh or the girls will hear you, I don't waste bee vomit on mead! Besides the centre of excellence is clearly SCD so l'll wait for instructions
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 03:15:29 PMBesides the centre of excellence is clearly SCD so l'll wait for instructions
Now there's pressure! 8)
Ah you did a great job with the pre competition judging - the mead will be a walk in the park with Bachus to guide you :D
*watches Conor start to sweat*
Did I tell you he could achieve anything, he ran that pre competition himself you know and is so so passionate on the subject of all things mead
http://www.bjcp.org/docs/2015_Guidelines_Mead.pdf
(https://foroneplease.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/i_am_ready.jpg)
Ha ha! Can we at least nail down the bottle sizes for meads and wines, PLEASE!
Please look at the Entry information page under Bottle acceptance rules, these are final.
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 10:13:36 PM
Please look at the Entry information page under Bottle acceptance rules, these are final.
Ok - it must be me (dense Welsh git) but I go here:
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/ (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/)
And I see no mention of the 2016 comp!
Am I missing something (like 1 billion brain cells)
Just a bit behind, will have all details on frontpage shortly.
Quote from: Will_D on December 16, 2015, 10:49:47 PM
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 10:13:36 PM
Please look at the Entry information page under Bottle acceptance rules, these are final.
Ok - it must be me (dense Welsh git) but I go here:
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/ (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/)
And I see no mention of the 2016 comp!
Am I missing something (like 1 billion brain cells)
Will I would never call you Welsh :)
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/competition/
Quote from: robotmonkey on December 15, 2015, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 12:58:26 PM
I just tried it there now and I works fine what are you using to try and enter Chrome,Explorer etc?
Edit Jimmy Beat me to it :)
Tried it in Chrome and IE11 on Windows 7 and tried it from Chrome on my phone too, getting the same thing :-/
Did you get sorted?
What are the Wine categories?
Quote from: CH on December 16, 2015, 11:11:58 PM
Quote from: robotmonkey on December 15, 2015, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 12:58:26 PM
I just tried it there now and I works fine what are you using to try and enter Chrome,Explorer etc?
Edit Jimmy Beat me to it :)
Tried it in Chrome and IE11 on Windows 7 and tried it from Chrome on my phone too, getting the same thing :-/
Did you get sorted?
Yeah got sorted, the firewall on the office wifi was blocking the form being sent.
Quote from: Will_D on December 16, 2015, 10:49:47 PM
www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/ (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/)
And I see no mention of the 2016 comp!
Am I missing something (like 1 billion brain cells)
Now updated, with a nice shiny poster (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/national-brewing-championships-2016/)
Quote from: Will_D on December 17, 2015, 08:06:16 AM
What are the Wine categories?
1.Wine
Don't forget big descriptive please
Hi All,
New to homebrew competitions but will enter this year one or two for the constructive criticism if anything.
Just wondering for the entries, how beneficial is filling out everything in the Optional Information section or is this for brewers records only?
You don't need to unless there is a special ingredient that you want the judge to know about
I'm open to correction on this but I think the description field is only enabled for certain styles?
Quote from: CH on December 17, 2015, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: Will_D on December 17, 2015, 08:06:16 AM
What are the Wine categories?
1.Wine
Don't forget big descriptive please
I really think there should be at least 2 categories as was suggested in earlier postings:
W1: Kit wines (based on grape concentrates)
W2: Country Wines (based on fruit and veg which would include real grapes)
If enough entries are received in W1 then split into white and red.
Reason that last years wine entries was sparse was a lack of info re. the fact that was a wine competion!
Quote from: Bubbles on December 21, 2015, 06:08:00 PM
I'm open to correction on this but I think the description field is only enabled for certain styles?
Which ones do you think are restricted?
Quote from: Will_D on December 21, 2015, 09:55:27 PM
Quote from: CH on December 17, 2015, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: Will_D on December 17, 2015, 08:06:16 AM
What are the Wine categories?
1.Wine
Don't forget big descriptive please
I really think there should be at least 2 categories as was suggested in earlier postings:
W1: Kit wines (based on grape concentrates)
W2: Country Wines (based on fruit and veg which would include real grapes)
If enough entries are received in W1 then split into white and red.
Reason that last years wine entries was sparse was a lack of info re. the fact that was a wine competion!
The reason there is only one category is because it's primarily a beer competition, that is judged to a consistent standard year on year.
We have no judging criteria for wine other that the professional vendors we used historically who all felt that the standard from the 2 or 3 entries we received each year wasn't high enough to merit a gold medal.
There will be medals available again this year
It just doesn't make sense to start creating subcategories for single digit number of entries.
We are the National Homebrew Club and our Competition does facilitate wine or any other legally homebrewed item, if the entry has a sufficiently high enough standard and the entrants expansive descriptive corresponds to what the judges are tasting then you will win a medal you don't need subcategories to do that.
Note that applies to all descriptives:
Where you do decide to use a descriptive try to put yourself in the judges shoes, they will be really helped with comments about unusual adjuncts or methods used rather than nice stories or history lessons about the style as I have seen a number of times :(
Some descriptives I read a few years back really helped though
"'My beer is infected but I think gives it a edge like a sour"
"Creamy, butter's fragrant aroma and aftertaste - it's not a diacetyl bug , it's a feature".
I aim for the essense of green Apple in all my beers;)
@CH:
"The reason there is only one category is because it's primarily a beer competition"
Then why have we all the mead categories?
If we want to grow the Home Brewing aspect of the club the makinh home wine makers the pariahs is not very condusive.
We are the National Homebrew Club after all not just the "Irish confederation of amateur beer makers 9not to forget cider and mead)"
Would more categories bring more people in? I understand that we had <10 entries for the past years, so no need for breaking down...
How many entries did we get for ciders and mead?
Quote from: giacomorizzo on December 23, 2015, 07:24:48 AM
How many entries did we get for ciders and mead?
Last year 3 meads 28 Ciders
Forgot to add Gary came third with an amazing fruit melomel I think it was
Quote from: Deemon147 on December 21, 2015, 05:25:01 PM
Hi All,
New to homebrew competitions but will enter this year one or two for the constructive criticism if anything.
Just wondering for the entries, how beneficial is filling out everything in the Optional Information section or is this for brewers records only?
If it is one of the main styles all the judges see is a number. Feedback will be on the most common factor as they won't know your actual process.
I'm afraid to say that you need to read the style guidlines about the extra info supplied to the judges. You could give a recipe for an IPA but the system won't communicate this to the judges (as the BJCP states there is no requirement)
However for an experimental beer or a fruiy sour the this info. IS required and IS passed onto the judges via the flight sheets (flight sheets are part of the comp software and are all about stewards delivering the beers in the corrcet order)
You may now realise that organising a BJCP sanctioned comp is NOT that easy!
BUT: Please ask more questions and enter we can always fine tune the info!
Brewed a red ale in December that I'm very happy with. Would it be worth sending 2 bottles into the competition, just for the experience and for a the fun of it? Myself and my friends thoroughly enjoy the beer but I don't know if it's a competition winner.
Quote from: BrewDorg on January 03, 2016, 11:50:57 PM
Brewed a red ale in December that I'm very happy with. Would it be worth sending 2 bottles into the competition, just for the experience and for a the fun of it? Myself and my friends thoroughly enjoy the beer but I don't know if it's a competition winner.
Yes
Right well I've just filled out the form and paid my entry so :)
Good Man, Best Of Luck!
Cheers, I'm pretty excited for it now. Bought ingredients today for an American Pale Ale that I hope I might be able to sneak in too!
Quote from: johnrm on November 06, 2015, 07:37:04 PM
Dates for your diary...
Jan 31 - Drop points Close
This took some finding. Can someone pop it on the registration process under entry info and the NHC homepage?
Quote from: Saruman on January 07, 2016, 12:29:37 PM
Quote from: johnrm on November 06, 2015, 07:37:04 PM
Dates for your diary...
Jan 31 - Drop points Close
This took some finding. Can someone pop it on the registration process under entry info and the NHC homepage?
updated on NHC website (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/)
Over a hundred Entries now folks don't miss out!
Any update as to where the Dublin leg will be taking place? (Expecting the answer "Dublin!")
QuoteAny update as to where the Dublin leg will be taking place? (Expecting the answer "Dublin!")
As far as I'm aware Dunkel it's in Alfie Byrne's, same venue as last year.
Just wanted to check, I put my name down to steward at the Belfast leg, is that OK if you're putting entries in as well?
Quote from: robotmonkey on January 10, 2016, 09:46:07 PM
Just wanted to check, I put my name down to steward at the Belfast leg, is that OK if you're putting entries in as well?
This is not a problem there will be a check box on your entries to indicate if you are volunteering as a steward or judge, just tick it and it ensures you are not judging or presenting your own beer, it did happen a few times in the past but the judges take zero steer from stewards even though a judge may offer a steward an occasional taste. I not sure if the steward I had from last year has forgiven me as I kept presenting the howlers to him, it was all about the education :P
Its a great experience for a steward as you get to see first hand whats involved in running a comp and what judges are looking for in beer or not and tastes of some pretty amazing beer as well. If you intend on having a go at BJCP exam longer term, I'd say its compulsory. :)
Hi . I'd like some friendly advice on which category to put a coffee stout in please.???
similar to here (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,14801.msg140274.html#msg140274)
Category 30A. Spice, Herb, or Vegetable Beer
BJCP Beer Style Guidelines – 2015 Edition
30. SPICED BEER
We use the common or culinary definitions of spices, herbs, and vegetables, not botanical or scientific ones. In general, spices are the dried seeds, seed pods, fruit, roots, bark, etc. of plants used for flavoring food. Herbs are leafy plants or parts of plants (leaves, flowers, petals, stalks) used for flavoring foods. Vegetables are savory or less sweet edible plant products, used primarily for cooking or sometimes eating raw. Vegetables can include some botanical fruit. This category explicitly includes all culinary spices, herbs, and vegetables, as well as nuts (anything with 'nut' in the name, including coconut), chile peppers, coffee, chocolate, spruce tips, rose hips, hibiscus, fruit peels/zest (but not juice), rhubarb, and the like. It does not include culinary fruit or grains. Flavorful fermentable sugars and syrups (agave nectar, maple syrup, molasses, sorghum, treacle, honey, etc.) can be included only in combination with other allowable ingredients, and should not have a dominant character. Any combination of allowable ingredients may also be entered.
Cheers ty
Is The Oslo Bar in Galway a drop-off point this year? It is listed as being one under competition rules but is not available to select from the drop-down menu on registration page. Thanks.
if you could liaise with Kev that would be better thanks
Quote from: Crazyhorse on January 12, 2016, 02:34:48 PM
Is The Oslo Bar in Galway a drop-off point this year? It is listed as being one under competition rules but is not available to select from the drop-down menu on registration page. Thanks.
I'll be collecting for Galway, pm me directly to arrange,
Or take them along to our meet on the 22nd!
Does anybody know if the drop-off points, specifically pubs, open for drop-offs now?
Should be ok, but which one Mr. Cheech?
Hey all, it's my first time entering this year and I noticed that we need to secure the form to the bottle via an elastic band. Do we just pierce the label/form provided by the entry and attach one each to the bottle or what way do I do it?
Quote from: DarraghKS on January 13, 2016, 09:18:46 AM
Hey all, it's my first time entering this year and I noticed that we need to secure the form to the bottle via an elastic band. Do we just pierce the label/form provided by the entry and attach one each to the bottle or what way do I do it?
Just wrap the label around the bottle and secure with an elastic band (see image below). The reason for the elastic is to allow the labels to be removed easily when the bottles are being sorted.
(http://www.homebrewingadventures.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/2010NHC_Entries-300x225.jpg)
Thanks very much for that Garry
Important:
Do not use Sellotape to attach the labels - elastic bands only.
Quote from: pob on January 13, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
Important:
Do not use Sellotape to attach the labels - elastic bands only.
What do we use to attach the €50 note for the judges?
Brown envelope, doh!
Quote from: brian_c on January 13, 2016, 02:00:34 PM
Quote from: pob on January 13, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
Important:
Do not use Sellotape to attach the labels - elastic bands only.
What do we use to attach the €50 note for the judges?
Style: M4C$ - Experimental Triple IPA aged with Benjamin Franklin
(http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/msxHeedk_H6i7y6o5n5fOBg.jpg)
€50's need to be in a sealed plastic bag inside the bottle. ;)
Quote from: johnrm on January 13, 2016, 08:21:20 AM
Should be ok, but which one Mr. Cheech?
W.J. Kavanaghs, Dublin
Quote from: bachus on January 13, 2016, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: brian_c on January 13, 2016, 02:00:34 PM
Quote from: pob on January 13, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
Important:
Do not use Sellotape to attach the labels - elastic bands only.
What do we use to attach the €50 note for the judges?
Style: M4C$ - Experimental Triple IPA aged with Benjamin Franklin
(http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/msxHeedk_H6i7y6o5n5fOBg.jpg)
Thats a 50 point beer if I ever saw one.
Don't believe a 50 pointer actually exists in the wild, but it's good to know what it might look like if I came across it.
A brew like that makes a judge very subjective :)
Folks for all drop offs the preference is club reps.
Johnny kavanaghs was from last year and requested by your reps, can you ask on capital what's app group if they are up for it again?
Errr Ganja G(j)uice!
Reminder: Please attach your entry labels to your bottles using 2 rubber bands. Sellotape and glue etc take longer to pull off at the bottle sorting and usually end up leaving bits of paper stuck to the bottle as well.
:)
I don't see an option to save/email the entry label file. Is there any way to do this?
you could print to PDF, have you no printer?
Quote from: irish_goat on January 15, 2016, 10:38:29 AM
Reminder: Please attach your entry labels to your bottles using 2 rubber bands. Sellotape and glue etc take longer to pull off at the bottle sorting and usually end up leaving bits of paper stuck to the bottle as well.
:)
Sellotape will be seriously frowned on folks its a pig to get off especially when stuck to the bottle, we have 800 of them please help on this one its appreciated!
In previous comps I have seen elastic hairbands, robbed from a daughter or wife no doubt and one which looked like elastic from knickers, all acceptable!!
Quote from: CH on January 15, 2016, 12:58:48 PM
Quote from: irish_goat on January 15, 2016, 10:38:29 AM
Reminder: Please attach your entry labels to your bottles using 2 rubber bands. Sellotape and glue etc take longer to pull off at the bottle sorting and usually end up leaving bits of paper stuck to the bottle as well.
:)
Sellotape will be seriously frowned on folks its a pig to get off especially when stuck to the bottle, we have 800 of them please help on this one its appreciated!
In previous comps I have seen elastic hairbands, robbed from a daughter or wife no doubt and one which looked like elastic from knickers, all acceptable!!
Auto disquallification?
Just checking, do we attach the entry/recipe form AND a bottle label to each entered bottle?
No we only need the Label to identify the bottle.
Other info is printed automatically on flight sheets for Judges
Just to save everybody loads of time we don't need recipe just a descriptive where prompted or if you would like adjuncts mentioned
That's what I thought but it wasn't overly clear in the entry info. Cheers!
Can someone tell me how the entries are stored prior to judging? I'm trying to squeeze a larger in to the comp but am worried it mightn't be carbed sufficiently by the time I drop it off on the 31st.
Assume cold from collection to day of the comp, you have 2 weeks before then.
Where's your drop point?
Quote from: CH on January 20, 2016, 07:50:54 PM
Assume cold from collection to day of the comp, you have 2 weeks before then.
Where's your drop point?
Was planning to drop it in to Alfies on the 31st.
Ok so you have 2 weeks to condition so
Sorry for spamming...
We hit out limit of 400 beers earlier today with over 100 entries in the past 24 hours.
As we hit this 10 days in advance of close, a number of brewers who intended entering have missed out.
In order to assess the extent of missed entries, could any brewer who missed out please PM me directly?
We are not promising anything, but will see what can be done to accommodate as many members as we can.
Discuss here...
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php?topic=14994.msg141127#msg141127
I picked a drop off point when registering but it turns out a different one might be handier for me - does this make a difference to the organisers?
Quote from: delzep on January 25, 2016, 10:32:20 AM
I picked a drop off point when registering but it turns out a different one might be handier for me - does this make a difference to the organisers?
Nah, any drop point will do.
Only that I will have a list of what is at each one
Actually, you can edit your drop off point under "Edit My Info". http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/competition
Dropped mine off in the Wine Centre in Kilkenny. The lad working there didn't know they were a dropping point this year. Can someone confirm mine is ok to be collected from there?
It will be
Oh, do I need to fill in all that stuff on the printout about gravity and ingredients?
You do, nobody else does. ;)
Is it ok to drop beers at 2 different drop-off points?
Should be OK once they are there on time.
Hey, I just realised that I've done something a bit silly. On one of my entries I forgot to wipe off the marker on the cap (which I use for identifying my beers) before I left it at the drop point. Please tell me this isn't automatic disqualification because it's my 12 month aged imperial stout which I brewed specifically for the competition and I'd be gutted if it was disqualified because of my stupidity :(
Disqualified
Kidding I know some of you think we are complete bastards and are soulless but we had all rules about bottle sizes and labels for years now and folks were just ignoring us as they were just not enforced.
This is on the minor element of that scale so I'll personally sort this one for you pm me your drop point.
Maybe not so forgiving next year as we turn the screw a little bit and have people actually follow the rules ;)
Talking of drop point CH ...
Great, my faith in humanity is once again restored, thanks CH ;D PM sent.
Haven't forgotten about you Mr D will be in touch tomorrow with a collection next week, Gary is going to relocate a thread I started...
Any indication yet of which categories are being judged in Belfast and which will be in Dublin?
Really sorry but I don't believe we publish that before comp, was there a reason you wanted to know? To be there to collect medals?
Nah, just being nosey really.
Came up in our meetup tonight. Nosiness really 😊
Can't see the reason for secrey here - unless there is a news blackout from Belfast!
Also if you are at the bottle sorting you will spot .....
The bottle sorters will all be drugged afterwards and won't remember a thing
The less that is known by all entrants of the competition about the allocation of flights cats etc, the better the integrity of the comp and why only one person has the master list of name to number and cats, besides we are judging beer in Belfast not specific cats
So you are saying I have to bribe two sets of judges?
Would be easier to just learn how to be a competent brewer, sheesh.
2017 entrants to Nationals read this
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160210/9516a5ab7056edfac11da76d32baa3cc.jpg)
On the right a lovely packed bag where the entrant has gone to a lot of trouble to ensure packaging will ensure his brewed product will get to the competition in optimum condition.
On the left an array of bottles with marked clearly identifiable caps in a flimsy ripped shoebox totally unsuitable for that number of bottles and an entry in 330's
Alfie's complained that they nearly broke them and so did I.
I will be governed by competition committee but to me this is instant disqualification.
In any case I'm sure the judges that get these marked bottles will score them down :(
So for the very last time
THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE
This should be on the first post for the 2017 Nationals and a sticky on the the Competitions section lol
330s allowed in some cats?
No NO No ffs No
Mead was the only one we said maybe
No 330's in any beer cats
Sorry to shout, but you can tell after 2 years this issue is starting to bug some of us.
I should bring all my 330's to bottle sorting and watch John start to have a meltdown. >:)
I'm back doing 1A this year aren't I. :(
Sure bring em I have a good friend I can recommend who is a really good Colorectal Surgeon.
Molc we have you down for the "oh shit this is not good enough for the Smithwicks Comp but I'll enter it in the Nationals cat. " there are quite a lot of them allegedly

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For years if anybody wanted to travel to Saudi Arabia on your Visa Application it's says in very large bold lettering, importation of Class A drugs is punishable by death.
On the plane you are reminded travelling to The Kingdom importation of Drugs is punishable by Death.
In the customs hall in very large lettering importation of drugs is punishable by Death.
Yet every year some poor Drug Mules get executed usually Philippinos beheaded in the public square....
Beheadings in alfies! should be a good comp this year
Quote from: beerfly on February 10, 2016, 07:35:11 PM
Beheadings in alfies! should be a good comp this year
Latest U-Tube phenomena - takes our mind off the AK wielding druggies of Dubland ffs!
Quote from: CH on February 10, 2016, 06:33:49 PMMolc we have you down for the "oh shit this is not good enough for the Smithwicks Comp but I'll enter it in the Nationals cat. " there are quite a lot of them allegedly 
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Entrants we have your beers sorted and good to go still some readily identifiable bottles so look out for those comments on your score sheets.
In the main no hiccups and I want to thank the bottle sorters that came this morning it makes the job so much easier!
Thankyou also to my assistant cameraman Jacob who promised to pull faster next year but was complaining about the load!
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This was my favourite.. Still covered in glue from the first label so the comp label completely stuck to it. Then sellotaped for good measure. Distinctive marks on caps also. But as CH says, bottle like this were very rare!
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The American Homebrew Association have the 'Ninkasi' award, I propose for next year anyone who doesn't bother reading the rules, will earn the 'In Jacksy' award with their entries!
The sellotape may aid retrieval.
Great to see the generosity of all those that gave their time to help make the national competition happen. I think the process is being refined each year to streamline things. I'd say it's a lot better now than a few years ago.
Liffey brewers out in strength. Good job guys.
Is there a break down of what is being judged where?
This was answered elsewhere, nope won't be published in advance as per previous years, only info out there is for Belfast judges who have been told what their cat is in order that they have a go at a few of that style before the day.
Grand thanks. Was just wondering. It's not like I'm wondering if an entry will we carbed in time.
Much better was of doing it as it'll stop people looking for scores for beers they know have been judged.
Thanks.
Medals will be awarded in Belfast but no scores given out, I seem to remember the scores get released after bos in Dublin.
Anybody not in Belfast will be presented their medal in Dublin and if not present in Dublin it will go out through their club rep. or other arrangement.
Quote from: CH on February 16, 2016, 05:04:14 PMI seem to remember the scores get released after bos in Dublin.
I know this gets asked every year.. so apologies for asking it again, but I just can't remember the answer... :-\
But why are the scores not released until after the first round of judging? Is it simply a limitation of the software?
If the scores themselves were released, it might satisfy those people clamouring for scoresheets as described by Nigel above.
No we put a hold on the scores as obviously they have a bearing on BOS and best brewer which are all decided in Dublin.
Individual scores are released a couple of hours after comp on entry system or at least they used to be.
Scoresheets from Nationals can take up to a week to get to the entrant.
***None will be allowed to be collected from Dublin this year***
I'll give all you fellas 10/10 for being keen though!
Will have to wait to pick up all my hardware in Dublin so ;)
Form an orderly queue, with a medal for every BJCP cat this year though, I think there is "one for every body in the audience", as long as you beer doesn't taste like ....
I'm going to miss that nice rear wheel ballast come Dublin.
Every Category or every sub category?
Every cat, 37 medals x3 in total which Includes the weird stuff like wines
Sureley medals will only be awarded in the smaller categories if they score a suitable score.
i.e. best score in Cat X is 30. That should not get a gold medal! maybe bronze?
I think this is what happened last year.
That's correct Will but as you know NHC members don't brew shit beer anymore so everyone should get one

I seem to remember from the sorting most cats had more that 3.
Final decision over medals and whether they gain a medal rests with judges and registrar on the day.
Same as previous years it's also possible for 1 entrant to get Gold Silver and Bronze if their beer is head and shoulders above others in that cat.
Be impressive If they did with only one entry per sub cat
Don't suppose they're be tweeting of results or is there any way to find out if I'm not there?
Nope, organisers will be too busy drinking responsibly

They will be published at some point on forum or comp area
Good luck to everyone entered in today's leg of the 2016 Nationals.
Andy, Belfast Homebrewers