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Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: johnrm on November 06, 2015, 07:37:04 PM
Ladies and Gents, Its Nationals time again.

We are following the format of previous years by running the competition over 2 days and in 2 venues.

The first leg will be in Belfast with the Belfast Homebrewers hosting.
The second leg and BOS will take place in Dublin.
Venues are TBA.

The Competition website is in the process of being updated and is expected live by Dec 1st.
NHC full members only. (For membership and benefits click here (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/becoming-a-member/))
Limit of 1 beer per subcategory per entrant.
There is no limit on overall entry numbers.
Flat fee of EUR5 per entry.
Full details will be available on the National Brewing Championships (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/competition) website.

Dates for your diary...
Jan 31 - Drop points Close
Feb 20 - Belfast
Mar  5 - Dublin

This event can only happen with your input - your entries, stewarding and judging and support.
Get brewing your beers.
Sign up to play your part in the biggest brewing event in the country in 2016!



(edit: date fixed)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: delzep on November 06, 2015, 08:29:16 PM
March the 6th? Is that correct? Other thread says the 5th (6th is a Sunday)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on November 06, 2015, 08:37:18 PM
It's the Sat ;)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: johnrm on November 09, 2015, 11:39:29 PM
And now its official...
http://www.bjcp.org/apps/comp_schedule/competition_schedule.php
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Will_D on November 10, 2015, 01:24:52 AM
Woo Hoo!! Way to go guys and not a round pipe in sight!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on November 10, 2015, 08:40:04 AM
Well done competition Bossman, God Bless this ship and all who sail in her
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: nigel_c on November 10, 2015, 10:19:43 AM
Quote from: Will_D on November 10, 2015, 01:24:52 AM
Woo Hoo!! Way to go guys and not a round pipe in sight!

:D
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Will_D on November 10, 2015, 10:28:02 AM
I think that the competition page needs a bit of an update i.e. it talks about 2015 and that there were 0 entries and 1 registered participant!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: neoanto on November 18, 2015, 11:57:41 AM
I went to the site, its still setup for 2015.
So from the OP, I gather 31st of Jan is the closing date for entries and judging in dublin will be on the march 5th?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: johnrm on November 18, 2015, 05:30:32 PM
Sorry about the delay Anto.
New comp page will be up soon.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: neoanto on November 18, 2015, 07:28:40 PM
Cool cheers!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: ZombieHoppingTime on December 12, 2015, 09:06:48 PM
7.5% raspberry brown rye sour beer category suggestions??
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 12, 2015, 10:00:31 PM
23f 34b or 34c all with a good descriptive to help the judges
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: ZombieHoppingTime on December 12, 2015, 11:57:44 PM
Quote from: CH on December 12, 2015, 10:00:31 PM
23f 34b or 34c all with a good descriptive to help the judges

Thanks CH. Looks like its going to have to be the accursed 34c
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 13, 2015, 12:34:07 AM
And so here's the problem with bjcp if you want to win medals brew beer to their styles, your beer sounds amazing and so even if it doesn't conform to bjcp enjoy and share with pals!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: johnrm on December 13, 2015, 07:45:47 PM
Quick update...

National Brewing Championships 2016 site is live.
Closing date for entries is Jan 31st 2016

Please get your entries registered as early as possible to that we can gauge bodies required for the competition.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 13, 2015, 08:06:23 PM
Drop Points open in Jan.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: 5MinFinney on December 13, 2015, 08:52:16 PM
hello, new here... I am considering entering the competition this year. I am trying to sign up for membership, but the google form is not working. Any thoughts on who to contact?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: pob on December 13, 2015, 11:00:42 PM

Quote from: 5MinFinney on December 13, 2015, 08:52:16 PM
hello, new here... I am considering entering the competition this year. I am trying to sign up for membership, but the google form is not working. Any thoughts on who to contact?
Looking into it. Hopefully back live soon.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Drum on December 13, 2015, 11:55:30 PM
Just registered there.  How important is the drop point option? I'm not sure where I'll end up dropping mine yet, Ive a few bottles at my parents house in kerry and some in cork. I assume we'll get an entry number for each beer so they can be identified from that? So does it matter if a beer turns up at a different drop point?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 14, 2015, 12:07:56 AM
No it doesn't it just helps us track those that aren't there and allows us work out where we need to send the big truck!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: pob on December 14, 2015, 04:19:16 PM
Quote from: 5MinFinney on December 13, 2015, 08:52:16 PM
hello, new here... I am considering entering the competition this year. I am trying to sign up for membership, but the google form is not working. Any thoughts on who to contact?

Back up again. The new fancy look Google Form wasn't too happy being embedded, the original version is back doing it's thing.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: DEMPSEY on December 14, 2015, 06:47:20 PM
What would we do without our techie heads to keep things running. Do ye feel a kinship with Scotty or la Forge on the Star ship Enterprise :D
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: pob on December 14, 2015, 07:27:05 PM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/14/3fb6064999bc414c06b83df8cd6f8fd7.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: robotmonkey on December 15, 2015, 12:29:12 PM
Everytime I fill in the details and click 'Register' I'm just taken to a blank page :-/
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: JimmyM on December 15, 2015, 12:58:05 PM
Quote from: robotmonkey on December 15, 2015, 12:29:12 PM
Everytime I fill in the details and click 'Register' I'm just taken to a blank page :-/

what browser are you using? Do you get any messages on the site in a yellow box about the compatability of your browser?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 15, 2015, 12:58:26 PM
I just tried it there now and I works fine what are you using to try and enter Chrome,Explorer  etc?

Edit Jimmy Beat me to it  :)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Bubbles on December 15, 2015, 01:42:04 PM
Lads, I think this could be reconsidered:

QuoteMead can be 1 x 330ml ... bottles

Is the 330ml botttle not a bit small? Not all meads are heavy sippers (not mine, unfortunately..  :-[ ) - some meads are 'hydromels', essentially 'session' meads.

Why is wine in 750ml, but mead in 330/500ml?
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 15, 2015, 01:47:42 PM
Sorry Bubbles way too much discussion on this topic already one person wants one thing and somebody wants something else time to move on.
Judges only need 100ml each to taste.
Probably for the last time this year meads will be grouped in with cider as in spite of the massive interest in the style we don't have the knowledge base or skillset as they like ciders are a whole subsection of BJCP.
We achieve the standard in Cider with commercial growers judging.
To do them proper justice more pull from members is required and that may be something you would like to progress through SCD in 2016?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Bubbles on December 15, 2015, 01:50:22 PM
I thought this was the place to ask questions?  ???

Fair enough, I'll move on!
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 15, 2015, 02:16:01 PM
What's that you say SCD organising BJCP mead training and a competition, great idea!, happy to help, where do I sign up?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Bubbles on December 15, 2015, 02:48:24 PM
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 02:16:01 PM
What's that you say SCD organising BJCP mead training and a competition, great idea!, happy to help, where do I sign up?

Whaddya mean?? You're the NHC's resident meadmaker and beekeeper! You should be giving the course! ;)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: robotmonkey on December 15, 2015, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 12:58:26 PM
I just tried it there now and I works fine what are you using to try and enter Chrome,Explorer  etc?

Edit Jimmy Beat me to it  :)

Tried it in Chrome and IE11 on Windows 7 and tried it from Chrome on my phone too, getting the same thing :-/
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 15, 2015, 03:09:19 PM
Can you take a screen shot or snip and post it?
Edit I'll leave Jimmy to it as my next suggestion was going to be have you tried switching it off and on again
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: JimmyM on December 15, 2015, 03:09:50 PM
Quote from: robotmonkey on December 15, 2015, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 12:58:26 PM
I just tried it there now and I works fine what are you using to try and enter Chrome,Explorer  etc?

Edit Jimmy Beat me to it  :)

Tried it in Chrome and IE11 on Windows 7 and tried it from Chrome on my phone too, getting the same thing :-/
You must be barred then!!

... can you pm me a screenshot or 2 of the form before you press submit...
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 15, 2015, 03:15:29 PM

Quote from: Bubbles on December 15, 2015, 02:48:24 PM
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 02:16:01 PM
What's that you say SCD organising BJCP mead training and a competition, great idea!, happy to help, where do I sign up?

Whaddya mean?? You're the NHC's resident meadmaker and beekeeper! You should be giving the course! ;)

Shh or the girls will hear you, I don't waste bee vomit on mead! Besides the centre of excellence is clearly SCD so l'll wait for instructions
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Bubbles on December 15, 2015, 03:30:30 PM
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 03:15:29 PMBesides the centre of excellence is clearly SCD so l'll wait for instructions

Now there's pressure!  8)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: molc on December 15, 2015, 04:12:35 PM
Ah you did a great job with the pre competition judging - the mead will be a walk in the park with Bachus to guide you :D

*watches Conor start to sweat*
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 15, 2015, 04:21:46 PM
Did I tell you he could achieve anything, he ran that pre competition himself you know and is so so passionate on the subject of all things mead
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: bachus on December 15, 2015, 05:05:35 PM
http://www.bjcp.org/docs/2015_Guidelines_Mead.pdf

(https://foroneplease.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/i_am_ready.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Will_D on December 15, 2015, 10:00:37 PM
Ha ha! Can we at least nail down the bottle sizes for meads and wines, PLEASE!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 15, 2015, 10:13:36 PM
Please look at the Entry information page under Bottle acceptance rules, these are final.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Will_D on December 16, 2015, 10:49:47 PM
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 10:13:36 PM
Please look at the Entry information page under Bottle acceptance rules, these are final.
Ok - it must be me (dense Welsh git) but I go here:

http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/ (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/)

And I see no mention of the 2016 comp!

Am I missing something (like 1 billion brain cells)


Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: pob on December 16, 2015, 10:54:41 PM
Just a bit behind, will have all details on frontpage shortly.



Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 16, 2015, 11:04:37 PM
Quote from: Will_D on December 16, 2015, 10:49:47 PM
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 10:13:36 PM
Please look at the Entry information page under Bottle acceptance rules, these are final.
Ok - it must be me (dense Welsh git) but I go here:

http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/ (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/)

And I see no mention of the 2016 comp!

Am I missing something (like 1 billion brain cells)

Will I would never call you Welsh :)
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/competition/
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 16, 2015, 11:11:58 PM
Quote from: robotmonkey on December 15, 2015, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 12:58:26 PM
I just tried it there now and I works fine what are you using to try and enter Chrome,Explorer  etc?

Edit Jimmy Beat me to it  :)

Tried it in Chrome and IE11 on Windows 7 and tried it from Chrome on my phone too, getting the same thing :-/

Did you get sorted?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Will_D on December 17, 2015, 08:06:16 AM
What are the Wine categories?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: robotmonkey on December 17, 2015, 09:58:42 AM
Quote from: CH on December 16, 2015, 11:11:58 PM
Quote from: robotmonkey on December 15, 2015, 03:03:11 PM
Quote from: CH on December 15, 2015, 12:58:26 PM
I just tried it there now and I works fine what are you using to try and enter Chrome,Explorer  etc?

Edit Jimmy Beat me to it  :)

Tried it in Chrome and IE11 on Windows 7 and tried it from Chrome on my phone too, getting the same thing :-/
Did you get sorted?

Yeah got sorted, the firewall on the office wifi was blocking the form being sent.

Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: pob on December 17, 2015, 03:56:07 PM
Quote from: Will_D on December 16, 2015, 10:49:47 PM

www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/ (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/)

And I see no mention of the 2016 comp!

Am I missing something (like 1 billion brain cells)

Now updated, with a nice shiny poster (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/national-brewing-championships-2016/)
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 17, 2015, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: Will_D on December 17, 2015, 08:06:16 AM
What are the Wine categories?

1.Wine

Don't forget big descriptive please
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Deemon147 on December 21, 2015, 05:25:01 PM
Hi All,

New to homebrew competitions but will enter this year one or two for the constructive criticism if anything.

Just wondering for the entries, how beneficial is filling out everything in the Optional Information section or is this for brewers records only?


Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 21, 2015, 05:52:54 PM
You don't need to unless there is a special ingredient that you want the judge to know about
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Bubbles on December 21, 2015, 06:08:00 PM
I'm open to correction on this but I think the description field is only enabled for certain styles?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Will_D on December 21, 2015, 09:55:27 PM
Quote from: CH on December 17, 2015, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: Will_D on December 17, 2015, 08:06:16 AM
What are the Wine categories?

1.Wine

Don't forget big descriptive please
I really think there should be at least 2 categories as was suggested in earlier postings:

W1: Kit wines (based on grape concentrates)

W2: Country Wines (based on fruit and veg which would include real grapes)

If enough entries are received in W1 then split into white and red.

Reason that last years wine entries was sparse was a lack of info re. the fact that was a wine competion!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 21, 2015, 10:19:08 PM

Quote from: Bubbles on December 21, 2015, 06:08:00 PM
I'm open to correction on this but I think the description field is only enabled for certain styles?

Which ones do you think are restricted?
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 21, 2015, 10:48:20 PM
Quote from: Will_D on December 21, 2015, 09:55:27 PM
Quote from: CH on December 17, 2015, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: Will_D on December 17, 2015, 08:06:16 AM
What are the Wine categories?

1.Wine

Don't forget big descriptive please
I really think there should be at least 2 categories as was suggested in earlier postings:

W1: Kit wines (based on grape concentrates)

W2: Country Wines (based on fruit and veg which would include real grapes)

If enough entries are received in W1 then split into white and red.

Reason that last years wine entries was sparse was a lack of info re. the fact that was a wine competion!

The reason there is only one category is because it's primarily a beer competition, that is judged to a consistent standard year on year.
We have no judging criteria for wine other that the professional vendors we used historically who all felt that the standard from the 2 or 3 entries we received each year wasn't high enough to merit a gold medal.
There will be medals available again this year
It just doesn't make sense to start creating subcategories for single digit number of entries.
We are the National Homebrew Club and our Competition does facilitate wine or any other legally homebrewed item, if the entry has a sufficiently high enough standard and the entrants expansive descriptive corresponds to what the judges are tasting then you will win a medal you don't need subcategories to do that.

Note that applies to all descriptives:
Where you do decide to use a descriptive try to put yourself in the judges shoes, they will be really helped with comments about unusual adjuncts or methods used rather than nice stories or history lessons about the style as I have seen a number of times :(

Some descriptives I read a few years back really helped though
"'My beer is infected but I think gives it a edge like a sour"
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: bachus on December 22, 2015, 07:38:49 AM
"Creamy, butter's fragrant aroma and aftertaste - it's not a diacetyl bug , it's a feature".
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: molc on December 22, 2015, 08:53:16 AM
I aim for the essense of green Apple in all my beers;)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Will_D on December 22, 2015, 08:09:38 PM
@CH:

"The reason there is only one category is because it's primarily a beer competition"

Then why have we all the mead categories?

If we want to grow the Home Brewing aspect of the club the makinh home wine makers the pariahs is not very condusive.

We are the National Homebrew Club after all not just the "Irish confederation of amateur beer makers 9not to forget cider and mead)"
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: giacomo on December 23, 2015, 07:24:48 AM
Would more categories bring more people in? I understand that we had <10 entries for the past years, so no need for breaking down...

How many entries did we get for ciders and mead?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 23, 2015, 12:02:54 PM
Quote from: giacomorizzo on December 23, 2015, 07:24:48 AM

How many entries did we get for ciders and mead?

Last year 3 meads 28 Ciders
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on December 23, 2015, 05:14:08 PM
Forgot to add Gary came third with an amazing fruit melomel I think it was
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: beerfly on December 23, 2015, 06:23:39 PM
Quote from: Deemon147 on December 21, 2015, 05:25:01 PM
Hi All,

New to homebrew competitions but will enter this year one or two for the constructive criticism if anything.

Just wondering for the entries, how beneficial is filling out everything in the Optional Information section or is this for brewers records only?
If it is one of the main styles all the judges see is a number. Feedback will be on the most common factor as they won't know your actual process.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Will_D on December 23, 2015, 08:53:32 PM
I'm afraid to say that you need to read the style guidlines about the extra info supplied to the judges. You could give a recipe for an IPA but the system won't communicate this to the judges (as the BJCP states there is no requirement)

However for an experimental beer or a fruiy sour the this info. IS required and IS passed onto the judges via the flight sheets (flight sheets are part of the comp software and are all about stewards delivering the beers in the corrcet order)

You may now realise that organising a BJCP sanctioned comp is NOT that easy!

BUT: Please ask more questions and enter we can always fine tune the info!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: BrewDorg on January 03, 2016, 11:50:57 PM
Brewed a red ale in December that I'm very happy with. Would it be worth sending 2 bottles into the competition, just for the experience and for a the fun of it? Myself and my friends thoroughly enjoy the beer but I don't know if it's a competition winner.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Pheeel on January 04, 2016, 12:21:17 AM
Quote from: BrewDorg on January 03, 2016, 11:50:57 PM
Brewed a red ale in December that I'm very happy with. Would it be worth sending 2 bottles into the competition, just for the experience and for a the fun of it? Myself and my friends thoroughly enjoy the beer but I don't know if it's a competition winner.

Yes
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: BrewDorg on January 04, 2016, 12:31:49 AM
Right well I've just filled out the form and paid my entry so :)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on January 04, 2016, 12:48:09 AM
Good Man, Best Of Luck!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: BrewDorg on January 04, 2016, 06:46:25 PM
Cheers, I'm pretty excited for it now. Bought ingredients today for an American Pale Ale that I hope I might be able to sneak in too!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on January 07, 2016, 12:29:37 PM
Quote from: johnrm on November 06, 2015, 07:37:04 PM

Dates for your diary...
Jan 31 - Drop points Close



This took some finding. Can someone pop it on the registration process under entry info and the NHC homepage?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: pob on January 07, 2016, 01:26:44 PM
Quote from: Saruman on January 07, 2016, 12:29:37 PM
Quote from: johnrm on November 06, 2015, 07:37:04 PM
Dates for your diary...
Jan 31 - Drop points Close

This took some finding. Can someone pop it on the registration process under entry info and the NHC homepage?

updated on NHC website (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on January 08, 2016, 12:52:41 AM
Over a hundred Entries now folks don't miss out!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Dunkel on January 08, 2016, 02:17:56 PM
Any update as to where the Dublin leg will be taking place? (Expecting the answer "Dublin!")
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Parky on January 08, 2016, 03:14:12 PM
QuoteAny update as to where the Dublin leg will be taking place? (Expecting the answer "Dublin!")

As far as I'm aware Dunkel it's in Alfie Byrne's, same venue as last year.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: robotmonkey on January 10, 2016, 09:46:07 PM
Just wanted to check, I put my name down to steward at the Belfast leg, is that OK if you're putting entries in as well?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on January 10, 2016, 10:13:40 PM
Quote from: robotmonkey on January 10, 2016, 09:46:07 PM
Just wanted to check, I put my name down to steward at the Belfast leg, is that OK if you're putting entries in as well?

This is not a problem there will be a check box on your entries to indicate if you are volunteering as a steward or judge, just tick it and it ensures you are not judging or presenting your own beer, it did happen a few times in the past but the judges take zero steer from stewards even though a judge may offer a steward an occasional taste. I not sure if the steward I had from last year has forgiven me as I kept presenting the howlers to him, it was all about the education   :P

Its a great experience for a steward as you get to see first hand whats involved in running a comp and what judges are looking for in beer or not and tastes of some pretty amazing beer as well.  If you intend on having a go at BJCP exam longer term, I'd say its compulsory. :)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: LASERBOY147 on January 11, 2016, 08:03:55 PM
Hi . I'd like some friendly advice on which category to put a coffee stout in please.???
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: pob on January 11, 2016, 08:11:52 PM
similar to here (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,14801.msg140274.html#msg140274)

Category 30A. Spice, Herb, or Vegetable Beer

BJCP Beer Style Guidelines – 2015 Edition

30. SPICED BEER
We use the common or culinary definitions of spices, herbs, and vegetables, not botanical or scientific ones. In general, spices are the dried seeds, seed pods, fruit, roots, bark, etc. of plants used for flavoring food. Herbs are leafy plants or parts of plants (leaves, flowers, petals, stalks) used for flavoring foods. Vegetables are savory or less sweet edible plant products, used primarily for cooking or sometimes eating raw. Vegetables can include some botanical fruit. This category explicitly includes all culinary spices, herbs, and vegetables, as well as nuts (anything with 'nut' in the name, including coconut), chile peppers, coffee, chocolate, spruce tips, rose hips, hibiscus, fruit peels/zest (but not juice), rhubarb, and the like. It does not include culinary fruit or grains. Flavorful fermentable sugars and syrups (agave nectar, maple syrup, molasses, sorghum, treacle, honey, etc.) can be included only in combination with other allowable ingredients, and should not have a dominant character. Any combination of allowable ingredients may also be entered.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: LASERBOY147 on January 11, 2016, 08:18:28 PM
Cheers ty
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Crazyhorse on January 12, 2016, 02:34:48 PM
Is The Oslo Bar in Galway a drop-off point this year? It is listed as being one under competition rules but is not available to select from the drop-down menu on registration page. Thanks.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on January 12, 2016, 02:49:13 PM
if you could liaise with Kev that would be better thanks
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Kevco5 on January 12, 2016, 07:07:38 PM
Quote from: Crazyhorse on January 12, 2016, 02:34:48 PM
Is The Oslo Bar in Galway a drop-off point this year? It is listed as being one under competition rules but is not available to select from the drop-down menu on registration page. Thanks.

I'll be collecting for Galway, pm me directly to arrange,
Or take them along to our meet on the 22nd!
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on January 13, 2016, 12:30:21 AM
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Jonnycheech on January 13, 2016, 07:31:16 AM
Does anybody know if the drop-off points, specifically pubs, open for drop-offs now?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: johnrm on January 13, 2016, 08:21:20 AM
Should be ok, but which one Mr. Cheech?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: DarraghKS on January 13, 2016, 09:18:46 AM
Hey all, it's my first time entering this year and I noticed that we need to secure the form to the bottle via an elastic band. Do we just pierce the label/form provided by the entry and attach one each to the bottle or what way do I do it?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Garry on January 13, 2016, 09:45:50 AM
Quote from: DarraghKS on January 13, 2016, 09:18:46 AM
Hey all, it's my first time entering this year and I noticed that we need to secure the form to the bottle via an elastic band. Do we just pierce the label/form provided by the entry and attach one each to the bottle or what way do I do it?

Just wrap the label around the bottle and secure with an elastic band (see image below). The reason for the elastic is to allow the labels to be removed easily when the bottles are being sorted.

(http://www.homebrewingadventures.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/2010NHC_Entries-300x225.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: DarraghKS on January 13, 2016, 10:01:10 AM
Thanks very much for that Garry
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: pob on January 13, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
Important:

Do not use Sellotape to attach the labels -  elastic bands only.





Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: brian_c on January 13, 2016, 02:00:34 PM
Quote from: pob on January 13, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
Important:

Do not use Sellotape to attach the labels -  elastic bands only.
What do we use to attach the €50 note for the judges?
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: pob on January 13, 2016, 03:04:28 PM
Brown envelope, doh!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: bachus on January 13, 2016, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: brian_c on January 13, 2016, 02:00:34 PM
Quote from: pob on January 13, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
Important:

Do not use Sellotape to attach the labels -  elastic bands only.
What do we use to attach the €50 note for the judges?

Style: M4C$ - Experimental Triple IPA aged with Benjamin Franklin
(http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/msxHeedk_H6i7y6o5n5fOBg.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: beerfly on January 13, 2016, 04:24:16 PM
€50's need to be in a sealed plastic bag inside the bottle.  ;)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Jonnycheech on January 13, 2016, 04:51:01 PM
Quote from: johnrm on January 13, 2016, 08:21:20 AM
Should be ok, but which one Mr. Cheech?

W.J. Kavanaghs, Dublin
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: pob on January 13, 2016, 05:50:06 PM
Quote from: bachus on January 13, 2016, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: brian_c on January 13, 2016, 02:00:34 PM
Quote from: pob on January 13, 2016, 01:54:16 PM
Important:

Do not use Sellotape to attach the labels -  elastic bands only.
What do we use to attach the €50 note for the judges?

Style: M4C$ - Experimental Triple IPA aged with Benjamin Franklin
(http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/msxHeedk_H6i7y6o5n5fOBg.jpg)

Thats a 50 point beer if I ever saw one.

Don't believe a 50 pointer actually exists in the wild, but it's good to know what it might look like if I came across it.

Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: molc on January 13, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
A brew like that makes a judge very subjective :)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on January 13, 2016, 07:46:50 PM
Folks for all drop offs the preference is club reps.
Johnny kavanaghs was from last year and requested by your reps, can you ask on capital what's app group if they are up for it again?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Will_D on January 13, 2016, 09:40:56 PM
Errr Ganja G(j)uice!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: irish_goat on January 15, 2016, 10:38:29 AM
Reminder: Please attach your entry labels to your bottles using 2 rubber bands. Sellotape and glue etc take longer to pull off at the bottle sorting and usually end up leaving bits of paper stuck to the bottle as well.

:)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: danger_zone on January 15, 2016, 11:45:38 AM
I don't see an option to save/email the entry label file. Is there any way to do this?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on January 15, 2016, 12:54:42 PM
you could print to PDF, have you no printer?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on January 15, 2016, 12:58:48 PM
Quote from: irish_goat on January 15, 2016, 10:38:29 AM
Reminder: Please attach your entry labels to your bottles using 2 rubber bands. Sellotape and glue etc take longer to pull off at the bottle sorting and usually end up leaving bits of paper stuck to the bottle as well.

:)

Sellotape will be seriously frowned on folks its a pig to get off especially when stuck to the bottle, we have 800 of them please help on this one its appreciated!
In previous comps I have seen elastic hairbands, robbed from a daughter or wife no doubt and one which looked like elastic from knickers, all acceptable!!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Andrew on January 18, 2016, 12:19:59 PM
Quote from: CH on January 15, 2016, 12:58:48 PM
Quote from: irish_goat on January 15, 2016, 10:38:29 AM
Reminder: Please attach your entry labels to your bottles using 2 rubber bands. Sellotape and glue etc take longer to pull off at the bottle sorting and usually end up leaving bits of paper stuck to the bottle as well.

:)

Sellotape will be seriously frowned on folks its a pig to get off especially when stuck to the bottle, we have 800 of them please help on this one its appreciated!
In previous comps I have seen elastic hairbands, robbed from a daughter or wife no doubt and one which looked like elastic from knickers, all acceptable!!
Auto disquallification?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: robotmonkey on January 20, 2016, 09:00:36 AM
Just checking, do we attach the entry/recipe form AND a bottle label to each entered bottle?
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on January 20, 2016, 09:12:50 AM
No we only need the Label to identify the bottle.
Other info is printed automatically on flight sheets for Judges

Just to save everybody loads of time we don't need recipe just a descriptive where prompted or if you would like adjuncts mentioned 
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: robotmonkey on January 20, 2016, 09:16:07 AM
That's what I thought but it wasn't overly clear in the entry info. Cheers!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: eoghanr on January 20, 2016, 07:24:35 PM
Can someone tell me how the entries are stored prior to judging? I'm trying to squeeze a larger in to the comp but am worried it mightn't be carbed sufficiently by the time I drop it off on the 31st.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on January 20, 2016, 07:50:54 PM
Assume cold from collection to day of the comp, you have 2 weeks before then.
Where's your drop point?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: eoghanr on January 20, 2016, 08:01:53 PM
Quote from: CH on January 20, 2016, 07:50:54 PM
Assume cold from collection to day of the comp, you have 2 weeks before then.
Where's your drop point?

Was planning to drop it in to Alfies on the 31st.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on January 20, 2016, 08:19:06 PM
Ok so you have 2 weeks to condition so
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: johnrm on January 21, 2016, 11:27:28 PM
Sorry for spamming...

We hit out limit of 400 beers earlier today with over 100 entries in the past 24 hours.
As we hit this 10 days in advance of close, a number of brewers who intended entering have missed out.
In order to assess the extent of missed entries, could any brewer who missed out please PM me directly?
We are not promising anything, but will see what can be done to accommodate as many members as we can.

Discuss here...
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php?topic=14994.msg141127#msg141127
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: delzep on January 25, 2016, 10:32:20 AM
I picked a drop off point when registering but it turns out a different one might be handier for me - does this make a difference to the organisers?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: irish_goat on January 25, 2016, 10:33:28 AM
Quote from: delzep on January 25, 2016, 10:32:20 AM
I picked a drop off point when registering but it turns out a different one might be handier for me - does this make a difference to the organisers?

Nah, any drop point will do.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on January 25, 2016, 10:36:05 AM
Only that I will have a list of what is at each one
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: irish_goat on January 25, 2016, 10:38:26 AM
Actually, you can edit your drop off point under "Edit My Info". http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/competition
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: BrewDorg on January 26, 2016, 08:36:48 PM
Dropped mine off in the Wine Centre in Kilkenny. The lad working there didn't know they were a dropping point this year. Can someone confirm mine is ok to be collected from there?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on January 26, 2016, 10:35:43 PM
It will be
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Saruman (Reuben Gray) on January 28, 2016, 10:43:03 AM
Oh, do I need to fill in all that stuff on the printout about gravity and ingredients?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: johnrm on January 28, 2016, 05:31:59 PM
You do, nobody else does. ;)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Adrian on January 29, 2016, 03:57:20 PM
Is it ok to drop beers at 2 different drop-off points? 
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: johnrm on January 29, 2016, 04:41:37 PM
Should be OK once they are there on time.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: redshift on February 03, 2016, 08:54:42 AM
Hey, I just realised that I've done something a bit silly. On one of my entries I forgot to wipe off the marker on the cap (which I use for identifying my beers) before I left it at the drop point. Please tell me this isn't automatic disqualification because it's my 12 month aged imperial stout which I brewed specifically for the competition and I'd be gutted if it was disqualified because of my stupidity   :(
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 03, 2016, 09:19:05 AM
Disqualified
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 03, 2016, 09:22:09 AM
Kidding I know some of you think we are complete bastards and are soulless but we had all rules about bottle sizes and labels for years now and folks were just ignoring us as they were just not enforced.
This is on the minor element of that scale  so I'll personally sort this one for you pm me your drop point.
Maybe not so forgiving next year as we turn the screw a little bit and have people actually follow the rules ;)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Will_D on February 03, 2016, 10:47:07 AM
Talking of drop point CH ...
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: redshift on February 03, 2016, 11:18:44 AM
Great, my faith in humanity is once again restored, thanks CH  ;D PM sent.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 03, 2016, 08:59:07 PM
Haven't forgotten about you Mr D will be in touch tomorrow with a collection next week, Gary is going to relocate a thread I started...
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: helmet on February 09, 2016, 06:48:46 PM
Any indication yet of which categories are being judged in Belfast and which will be in Dublin?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 09, 2016, 07:23:05 PM
Really sorry but I don't believe we publish that before comp, was there a reason you wanted to know? To be there to collect medals?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: helmet on February 09, 2016, 07:24:46 PM
Nah, just being nosey really.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Pheeel on February 09, 2016, 10:11:40 PM
Came up in our meetup tonight. Nosiness really 😊
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Will_D on February 09, 2016, 10:42:53 PM
Can't see the reason for secrey here - unless there is a news blackout from Belfast!

Also if you are at the bottle sorting you will spot .....
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 09, 2016, 10:55:38 PM
The bottle sorters will all be drugged afterwards and won't remember a thing

The less that is known by all entrants of the competition about the allocation of flights cats etc, the better the integrity of the comp and why only one person has the master list of name to number and cats, besides we are judging beer in Belfast not specific cats
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: brian_c on February 10, 2016, 09:01:00 AM
So you are saying I have to bribe two sets of judges?

Would be easier to just learn how to be a competent brewer,  sheesh.
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 10, 2016, 12:20:59 PM
2017 entrants to Nationals read this

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160210/9516a5ab7056edfac11da76d32baa3cc.jpg)

On the right a lovely packed bag where the entrant has gone to a lot of trouble to ensure  packaging will ensure his brewed product will get to the competition in optimum condition.

On the left an array of bottles with marked clearly identifiable caps in a flimsy ripped shoebox totally unsuitable for that number of bottles and an entry in 330's
Alfie's complained that they nearly broke them and so did I.

I will be governed by competition committee but to me this is instant disqualification.
In any case I'm sure the judges that get these marked bottles will score them down :(

So for the very last time

THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: robotmonkey on February 10, 2016, 12:30:14 PM
This should be on the first post for the 2017 Nationals and a sticky on the the Competitions section lol
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Dr Brown Ale on February 10, 2016, 02:51:34 PM
330s allowed in some cats?
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 10, 2016, 02:56:12 PM
No NO No ffs No
Mead was the only one we said maybe
No 330's in any beer cats
Sorry to shout, but you can tell after 2 years this issue is starting to bug some of us.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: molc on February 10, 2016, 05:51:09 PM
I should bring all my 330's to bottle sorting and watch John start to have a meltdown. >:)

I'm back doing 1A this year aren't I. :(
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 10, 2016, 06:33:49 PM
Sure bring em I have a good friend I can recommend who is a really good Colorectal Surgeon.
Molc we have you down for the "oh shit this is not good enough for the Smithwicks Comp but I'll enter it in the Nationals cat. " there are quite a lot of them allegedly

Now gather around Children whilst I tell you a story;
For years if anybody wanted to travel to Saudi Arabia on your Visa Application it's says in very large bold lettering, importation of Class A drugs is punishable by death.
On the plane you are reminded travelling to The Kingdom importation of Drugs is punishable by Death.
In the customs hall in very large lettering importation of drugs is punishable by Death.
Yet every year some poor Drug Mules get executed usually Philippinos beheaded in the public square....
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: beerfly on February 10, 2016, 07:35:11 PM
Beheadings in alfies! should be a good comp this year
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Will_D on February 10, 2016, 11:20:14 PM
Quote from: beerfly on February 10, 2016, 07:35:11 PM
Beheadings in alfies! should be a good comp this year
Latest U-Tube phenomena - takes our mind off the AK wielding druggies of Dubland ffs!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Bubbles on February 11, 2016, 03:49:38 PM
Quote from: CH on February 10, 2016, 06:33:49 PMMolc we have you down for the "oh shit this is not good enough for the Smithwicks Comp but I'll enter it in the Nationals cat. " there are quite a lot of them allegedly

(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/e/e9/Nelson_Ha-Ha.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121205194057)

;) :D
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 13, 2016, 02:43:29 PM
Entrants we have your beers sorted and good to go still some readily identifiable bottles so look out for those comments on your score sheets.
In the main no hiccups and I want to thank the bottle sorters that came this morning it makes the job so much easier!
Thankyou also to my assistant cameraman Jacob who promised to pull faster next year but was complaining about the load!

https://vimeo.com/155240829 (https://vimeo.com/155240829)
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Bubbles on February 13, 2016, 03:13:17 PM
This was my favourite.. Still covered in glue from the first label so the comp label completely stuck to it. Then sellotaped for good measure. Distinctive marks on caps also. But as CH says, bottle like this were very rare!

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160213/1696cda7c47e0a2d09633261ace5475d.jpg)
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: pob on February 13, 2016, 07:34:09 PM
The American Homebrew Association have the 'Ninkasi' award, I propose for next year anyone who doesn't bother reading the rules, will earn the 'In Jacksy' award with their entries!

The sellotape may aid retrieval.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: imark on February 13, 2016, 11:04:46 PM
Great to see the generosity of all those that gave their time to help make the national competition happen. I think the process is being refined each year to streamline things. I'd say it's a lot better now than a few years ago.
Liffey brewers out in strength. Good job guys.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: nigel_c on February 16, 2016, 03:43:14 PM
Is there a break down of what is being judged where?
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 16, 2016, 04:30:29 PM
This was answered elsewhere, nope won't be published in advance as per previous years, only info out there is for Belfast judges who have been told what their cat is in order that they have a go at a few of that style before the day.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: nigel_c on February 16, 2016, 04:35:39 PM
Grand thanks. Was just wondering. It's not like I'm wondering if an entry will we carbed in time.
Much better was of doing it as it'll stop people looking for scores for beers they know have been judged.
Thanks.
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 16, 2016, 05:04:14 PM
Medals will be awarded in Belfast but no scores given out, I seem to remember the scores get released after bos in Dublin.
Anybody not in Belfast will be presented their medal in Dublin and if not present in Dublin it will go out through their club rep. or other arrangement.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Bubbles on February 16, 2016, 05:10:12 PM
Quote from: CH on February 16, 2016, 05:04:14 PMI seem to remember the scores get released after bos in Dublin.

I know this gets asked every year.. so apologies for asking it again, but I just can't remember the answer...  :-\

But why are the scores not released until after the first round of judging? Is it simply a limitation of the software?

If the scores themselves were released, it might satisfy those people clamouring for scoresheets as described by Nigel above.
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 16, 2016, 07:42:35 PM
No we put a hold on the scores as obviously they have a bearing on BOS and best brewer which are all decided in Dublin.

Individual scores are released a couple of hours after comp on entry system or at least they used to be.
Scoresheets from Nationals can take up to a week to get to the entrant.

***None will be allowed to be collected from Dublin this year***

I'll give all you fellas 10/10 for being keen though!
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: nigel_c on February 16, 2016, 09:00:31 PM
Will have to wait to pick up all my hardware in Dublin so  ;)
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 16, 2016, 09:20:59 PM
Form an orderly queue, with a medal for every BJCP cat this year though, I think there is "one for every body in the audience", as long as you beer doesn't taste like ....
I'm going to miss that nice rear wheel ballast come Dublin.
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: lordstilton on February 17, 2016, 05:20:29 AM
Every Category or every sub category?
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 17, 2016, 09:24:25 AM
Every cat, 37 medals x3 in total which Includes the weird stuff like wines
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Will_D on February 17, 2016, 11:07:18 AM
Sureley medals will only be awarded in the smaller categories if they score a suitable score.

i.e. best score in Cat X is 30. That should not get a gold medal! maybe bronze?

I think this is what happened last year.
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 17, 2016, 01:20:36 PM
That's correct Will but as you know NHC members don't brew shit beer anymore so everyone should get one
I seem to remember from the sorting most cats had more that 3.
Final decision over medals and whether they gain a medal rests with judges and registrar on the day.
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on February 17, 2016, 01:25:58 PM
Same as previous years it's also possible for 1 entrant to get Gold Silver and Bronze if their beer is head and shoulders above others in that cat.
Be impressive If they did with only one entry per sub cat
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Flanagan on March 03, 2016, 10:33:10 PM
Don't suppose they're be tweeting of results or is there any way to find out if I'm not there?
Title: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Leann ull on March 03, 2016, 10:52:28 PM
Nope, organisers will be too busy drinking responsibly


They will be published at some point on forum or comp area
Title: Re: 2016 National Brewing Championships
Post by: Quiet_Man on March 05, 2016, 08:11:02 AM
Good luck to everyone entered in today's leg of the 2016 Nationals.

Andy, Belfast Homebrewers