Mylocal innkeeper in north co dublin charges 5.70 for mcgargles,5.30 for oharas ipa, is this pubs taking the piss a little or thats what you have to fork out for craft beer?
Discuss
As an ocassonial pub goer lately ,ill pay that if im solo or only out for 2 or 4, but anymore im on guiness @4.80.
Im always trying to convert the nasayers but these prices dont help.
Thoughts???
So you're moaning about a 50cent difference between Guinness and O'Hara's? Those prices are about standard. You'll pay €6 to €7 for a good craft beer in some pubs.
Oh no,not moaning,just throwing it out there for discussion. Was just curious what others thought. Would hate to think vitners were taking advantage of the popularity of craft beer.
Quote from: Vermelho on November 21, 2015, 08:20:14 PM
So you're moaning about a 50cent difference between Guinness and O'Hara's? Those prices are about standard. You'll pay €6 to €7 for a good craft beer in some pubs.
You'll pay that for bad ones too. ;) Hotel near me charges 6.75 for all 'craft' beers - mostly German ones like Paulaner.
Only producer that meets definitions would be Stag Ban - I've seen this very expensive for some reason in a few places. Its over 7 euro a pint in Deep South in Cork.
6.75 a pint! Jesus if ever there was a reason to homebrew then that's it.
Quote from: Mac on November 21, 2015, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: Vermelho on November 21, 2015, 08:20:14 PM
So you're moaning about a 50cent difference between Guinness and O'Hara's? Those prices are about standard. You'll pay €6 to €7 for a good craft beer in some pubs.
You'll pay that for bad ones too. ;) Hotel near me charges 6.75 for all 'craft' beers - mostly German ones like Paulaner.
Only producer that meets definitions would be Stag Ban - I've seen this very expensive for some reason in a few places. Its over 7 euro a pint in Deep South in Cork.
There's a bar in East Point that has a chalkboard sign advertising their craft beers.. On the list, Tyskie..
'Nuff said..
Quote from: Mac on November 21, 2015, 09:36:05 PM
Stag Ban - I've seen this very expensive for some reason in a few places. Its over 7 euro a pint in Deep South in Cork.
That is crazy and is not going to help promote craft beer, €5/€5.50 would be loads in my opinion.
One of the things that irks me with craft recently is the price of the Irish products are higher or the same as imports in a lot of the craft bars.
I vote with my wallet usually and actually get American or Belgian beers in those circumstances, as its the only message I can send that might be understood. I refuse to pay €6 and above regularly for locally produced goods. I support Irish, but not our rip off culture.
The other thing that annoys me is the servings have gotten smaller but the price has stayed the same. I remember in Galway Bay pubs, when they first opened, that a half was 2.50 and a pint was 5. I quite like a 330ml serving, but when I get a beer that's under 5% avg, I want a decent pint to drink.
Quote from: molc on November 22, 2015, 03:24:16 PM
One of the things that irks me with craft recently is the price of the Irish products are higher or the same as imports in a lot of the craft bars.
I vote with my wallet usually and actually get American or Belgian beers in those circumstances, as its the only message I can send that might be understood. I refuse to pay €6 and above regularly for locally produced goods. I support Irish, but not our rip off culture.
The other thing that annoys me is the servings have gotten smaller but the price has stayed the same. I remember in Galway Bay pubs, when they first opened, that a half was 2.50 and a pint was 5. I quite like a 330ml serving, but when I get a beer that's under 5% avg, I want a decent pint to drink.
And if you can get Beamish at €3.60 even in city centre pubs in Dublin, it makes you wonder why brewers running their own pubs can't match it for their regular range.
Its a fiver in my local for most of their pints. Its majority local stuff and usually Lagunitas with occasional other random beers. The only time its more than a fiver is if its something Lagunitas Sucks coming in at 8% but thats for a proper pint. The bar manager says other local pubs charging way over that are taking the piss. Although most don't charge too much more. In one of our local pubs you can get 3 Wicklow Wolfs for €11.
In my local Sheary's it's a fiver for a pint of what ever is on. A couple of them are American sized pints but I've seen the same for 5.5 - 6 in other pubs.
Quote from: jawalemon on November 22, 2015, 06:22:28 PM
In my local Sheary's it's a fiver for a pint of what ever is on. A couple of them are American sized pints but I've seen the same for 5.5 - 6 in other pubs.
surely a pint is a pint ? as in an irish pint , selling more or less than a pint would be frowned upon by the powers that be ......
as for price i feel it is taking the piss and it does discorage me from buying local , i wonder if franciscian well beers will drop in price now their new macro brewery is open , i love rebel red but as its now a macro product i am not stupid enough to pay the "craft tax"
Quote from: hopapotamus on November 22, 2015, 07:06:36 PM
surely a pint is a pint ? as in an irish pint , selling more or less than a pint would be frowned upon by the powers that be ......
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American fluid ounces are smaller than Imperial units so their pint is 473ml whereas the Imperial is 568ml. There are the lads you'd bring it to the attention of if you think you're being sold short measures:
http://www.nsai.ie/Our-Services/Measurement/Complaints-and-Appeals.aspx
Shearys advertised their American pint sizes on their price list so the customer knows before they buy
ah thats fair enough
Quote from: molc on November 22, 2015, 03:24:16 PM
The other thing that annoys me is the servings have gotten smaller but the price has stayed the same. I remember in Galway Bay pubs, when they first opened, that a half was 2.50 and a pint was 5. I quite like a 330ml serving, but when I get a beer that's under 5% avg, I want a decent pint to drink.
If the pint price on a particular keg exceeds 6.75e then its sold in a 330ml glass serving. Also, You can still get pints & halves on most beers. (halves still cost half the price of the pint)
6.30E. for a pint of punk this evening, enjoyed the pint ........but just had one!!
Two Irish craft brewers have told me they are selling their kegs to pubs for approx 20 euro a keg cheaper than the big players, but their pints are still costing more to the customer.
Quote from: rje66 on November 22, 2015, 09:25:40 PM
6.30E. for a pint of punk this evening, enjoyed the pint ........but just had one!!
Who's selling Punk on draft? That's close to what Brewdog charge for it tbf (although Euro weakness obviously is a factor)..
The Roundy in Cork have Dead Pony Club. Usually have a guest 8 degrees beer too - last one I had was their Nelson Sauvin Saison. They charge regular prices - about a fiver - for these.
Quote from: cruiscinlan on November 22, 2015, 03:49:17 PM
And if you can get Beamish at €3.60 even in city centre pubs in Dublin, it makes you wonder why brewers running their own pubs can't match it for their regular range.
Because there is decades of process engineering in beers like Beamish to drive its cost of manufacturing down, allowing it to be sold at profit at that price. Craft Brewers are rarely in the same position.
Quote from: TheSumOfAllBeers on November 23, 2015, 09:40:08 AM
Because there is decades of process engineering in beers like Beamish to drive its cost of manufacturing down, allowing it to be sold at profit at that price. Craft Brewers are rarely in the same position.
And the same holds true for every other medium to macro beer. Cask ale in the UK is available at the same price level despite coming from breweries the same size as the large Irish craft brewers.
Operations such as the Porterhouse simply make massive margins on what they sell, as seen in their ability to buy their Covent Garden site in cash.
The downstairs/gig section of The Lower Deck in Portobello has a sign behind the bar:
Craft Beers
6.50
Saturday, that went for both 500ml bottles of Dungarvan Mine Head (retail: €3.90) and 330ml bottles of BrewDog Punk (retail:€2.99)
Quote from: cruiscinlan on November 23, 2015, 10:29:58 AM
Quote from: TheSumOfAllBeers on November 23, 2015, 09:40:08 AM
Because there is decades of process engineering in beers like Beamish to drive its cost of manufacturing down, allowing it to be sold at profit at that price. Craft Brewers are rarely in the same position.
And the same holds true for every other medium to macro beer. Cask ale in the UK is available at the same price level despite coming from breweries the same size as the large Irish craft brewers.
The majority of cask ale producers by volume are the large regionals (Fullers, Sheperd Neame, St Austells, Greene King etc.) they are considerably bigger than the largest Irish Craft Brewers. But Cask Ale is an oddity in terms of pricing in the UK, with a glass ceiling on prices at the handpull. As a perishable product, where the publican bears the cost of the spoilage, and the consumer is wary of cask past its best, it has evolved into a high turnover product, and it has very low margins. Many UK brewers are finding the wholesale prices almost unsustainable, and many successful cask-only microbreweries are launching kegged products as their margins and risk are better.
As a 'value' beer there is a lot going on to keep cask ale cheaper than everything else.
I think almost all the craft beers in my local are around £3.50 for 500lm . the same price as hoegaarden & franziskanerr draft pints. Cant really speak for the prices on smaller bottles .But they have a decent range esp for a backwater town .
I normally drink hoegaarden , franziskaner or Goats but anyway ,so paying the same price to try something new isn't a big deal . I`m more likely to buy them than the regular draft pints at £3 .
Prices taken from a beer menu at a pub in Brighton that I was at this weekend. Notice that's the price for a half pint. I almost ordered a full pint...
Pic I took at http://drygate.com/ in Glasgow
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Quote from: gazz on December 01, 2015, 10:42:07 PM
Pic I took at http://drygate.com/ in Glasgow
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I wish we had more bars with taps on the back wall. Having to jump around huge tap handles in front of the bar to get served, especially in a place like Against the Grain, is a pain in the arse. Why don't we do it over here? Macro influence?
I was in Wetherspoons in Cork last weekend and has delicious super malty Vienna best bitter and an equally delicious Thunder Road Pacific hopped with Galaxy for €5 total. Shop around.
Quote from: Vermelho on March 23, 2016, 08:19:25 PM
I wish we had more bars with taps on the back wall. Having to jump around huge tap handles in front of the bar to get served, especially in a place like Against the Grain, is a pain in the arse. Why don't we do it over here? Macro influence?
You mostly get taps at the back in Taprooms in the States as the cold storage is one big room where all the kegs are stored. Its a bit hipster now to get them in this part of the world. But i do agree it can be hard to even prder a pint never mind pass one through the forest of taps...
And i'm in London right now. Never spent so much money on so little beer...
Are you saying that beer is reasonably priced in Ireland?
Oh god no. I should be able to buy at least 4 50cl bottles for a tenner in Ireland, and a pint for €4.50. But London prices are beyond crazy (for everything!)