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Title: Long soaking kegs in W5
Post by: Fal on April 08, 2016, 11:11:23 PM
Is it safe to soak kegs with w5 when not in use over night or longer?
Title: Re: Long soaking kegs in W5
Post by: Leann ull on April 09, 2016, 09:30:49 AM
You shouldn't need to I normally half fill 2 hours then invert and it's spotless after a big rinse.
Every 2nd or 3 fill I do a complete strip down


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Title: Re: Long soaking kegs in W5
Post by: Fal on April 09, 2016, 10:08:45 AM
Thanks CH, I'll give that a go tonight
Title: Long soaking kegs in W5
Post by: Leann ull on April 09, 2016, 10:13:03 AM
No worries, sorry should have said red hot water if you can or at least over 60 to activate the w5
I've 6 of my own to strip and do the same later, learnt the hard way a couple of years ago to put the bits for each keg in little marge tubs rather than just throw the whole lot in a bucket for cleaning, each second hand Keg has its own little personality and the bastards are not always compatible or universal!
Title: Re: Long soaking kegs in W5
Post by: Fal on April 09, 2016, 12:18:34 PM
I know, I made that mistake too!
Title: Re: Long soaking kegs in W5
Post by: beerfly on April 12, 2016, 06:47:48 PM
I have left kegs soaking for a day or two. Between 40 and 60 ℃ is the best temp for it.
There are enzymes in it so just like your mash avoid over 70.
Title: Re: Long soaking kegs in W5
Post by: Fal on April 12, 2016, 11:29:07 PM
Cheers beerfly, good to know. I usually use a downstairs electric shower for instant hot water to clean them. But I have been know to use boiling water too. I'll know to avoid that next time.
Title: Re: Long soaking kegs in W5
Post by: Leann ull on April 13, 2016, 12:17:22 AM
What are the issues going over 70 Beerfly?
Title: Re: Long soaking kegs in W5
Post by: Drum on April 13, 2016, 02:09:52 AM
Quote from: CH on April 13, 2016, 12:17:22 AM
What are the issues going over 70 Beerfly?

Denaturing of the enzymes i'd imagine. W5 is a laundry detergent, so it probably has protease, lipidase and our friendly neighbourhood amylase. Temps a little bit over 70C will kill any enzyme before it can do it's job but they work best in the range of 30 to high 60's celsius, same as in a mash.   Rinsing with boiling water after soaking in W5 would be good to get rid of any residue after the W5 has done it's job
Title: Re: Long soaking kegs in W5
Post by: LordEoin on April 13, 2016, 07:53:00 AM
aparently the enzyme is Protease. Optimal at 42C
Its purpose is "protein catabolism by hydrolysis of the peptide bonds that link amino acids together in a polypeptide chain"
in other words it breaks proteins into smaller bits. Like breaking a chain by cutting some links.
Handy for our gut to make stuff more easily digestible or for getting poop out of nappies etc
Title: Re: Long soaking kegs in W5
Post by: Leann ull on April 13, 2016, 09:55:02 AM
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Title: Re: Long soaking kegs in W5
Post by: DEMPSEY on April 13, 2016, 10:16:22 AM
Gee I did not know this,goes to show you never stop learning  :)
Title: Re: Long soaking kegs in W5
Post by: beerfly on April 13, 2016, 12:58:39 PM
yep what they said
Title: Re: Long soaking kegs in W5
Post by: Fal on April 13, 2016, 01:39:21 PM
And poop out of baby gro's....I discovered this recently. The Missus is delighted I Homebrew now!