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Brewing Discussions => Cider, Perry, Wine & Mead => Topic started by: Shanna on April 16, 2016, 12:11:36 PM

Title: Some questions about cider?
Post by: Shanna on April 16, 2016, 12:11:36 PM
Hi there,

I have some questions about cider that I was hoping some of the more experienced members might help me answer please.

1. Is it okay to leave the fermented juice on the lees for extended periods? I racked my cider off into secondary containers about 6 weeks ago and I am concerned by the large amount of true that I transferred across to the secondary that it might cause off fall ours in the cider. I have not had a n opportunity to bottle it yet (50 liters).

2. This leads me on to my subsequent questions? Is it okay to use clear glass bottles to store the cider? Would glass wine bottle take the pressure of bottled conditioned/carbonated cider of say 2 psi?

3. If not can anybody recommend where I might pick up/buy 1 liter brown glass bottles, preferably either swing top or better still screw top? Preference is for 1 liter to minimize the amount of cleaning & bottling to allow me do it in one go.

Shanna
Title: Some questions about cider?
Post by: Leann ull on April 16, 2016, 04:26:14 PM
No issue with leaving on a small amount of dust but a big thick inch of trub
I'm doing that experiment at the moment with 1 drum but not my whole vintage
Transparent bottles no problem
I'd be wary of wine bottles and carbonation unless you were bottle gunning.
Alpack sell 750's or at least they used to ker Ching
Box of 500s in alpack cheapest and only need sanitising
1 litre of 6.5 cider makes for a good night!!
Title: Re: Some questions about cider?
Post by: Shanna on April 16, 2016, 06:06:53 PM
Quote from: CH on April 16, 2016, 04:26:14 PM
No issue with leaving on a small amount of dust but a big thick inch of trub
I'm doing that experiment at the moment with 1 drum but not my whole vintage
Transparent bottles no problem
I'd be wary of wine bottles and carbonation unless you were bottle gunning.
Alpack sell 750's or at least they used to ker Ching
Box of 500s in alpack cheapest and only need sanitising
1 litre of 6.5 cider makes for a good night!!
Yeah I am on about half an inch so got to get it off it soon. Yeah I know about alpack pity they are so expensive I take your point about large bottles but I will be giving most of it away to friends/family anyway so not overly concerned. I got some old 1 litre bulmers screw top bottles before but have steadily lost them from non returns and natural wastage. Might have to go with two night of cleaning & bottling.

Shanna
Title: Re: Some questions about cider?
Post by: Leann ull on April 16, 2016, 06:27:26 PM
You wanna make sure they are clean nothing worse than getting infected beer or cider
Title: Re: Some questions about cider?
Post by: Shanna on April 17, 2016, 09:53:59 AM
Quote from: CH on April 16, 2016, 06:27:26 PM
You wanna make sure they are clean nothing worse than getting infected beer or cider
Thanks yeah I seem to remember getting that tip else where after my fourth or fifth gusher :) No longer accept random bottles like bin the past where I was using anything. New bottle cleaning beehive involves brush, oxy soak (40C water), rinse with cold water & then a run through with starsan. No more gushers or beers souring in the bottle since I started doing that. I treat my beer/cider bottles in the same way.

I seem to remember you having a few glass 1 ltr swing tops, any hints where you got them.

Shanna
Title: Some questions about cider?
Post by: Leann ull on April 17, 2016, 10:09:30 AM
Yep I bought them in alpack
http://www.alpack.ie/products/id-731.html?filter_set%5B0%5D=8%2C334&