Title: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on May 09, 2016, 02:33:22 PM
Post by: imark on May 09, 2016, 02:33:22 PM
It's time to set the wheels in motion for the third yearly Liffey Brewers Lambic Barrel. I propose to follow the same approach we took last year. http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,9643.0.html (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,9643.0.html)
The date for the fill will be 4th June. Each contribution will be 25L. I've got some old hops that I will distribute those participating. All wort will need to be brewed and delivered to me on the day.
If you're ok with all the above and interested in participating in this barrel please add your name below. If we're oversubscribed we'll give preference to previous participants and active Liffey Brewers.
1. imark
The date for the fill will be 4th June. Each contribution will be 25L. I've got some old hops that I will distribute those participating. All wort will need to be brewed and delivered to me on the day.
If you're ok with all the above and interested in participating in this barrel please add your name below. If we're oversubscribed we'll give preference to previous participants and active Liffey Brewers.
1. imark
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: DamienE on May 09, 2016, 08:38:33 PM
Post by: DamienE on May 09, 2016, 08:38:33 PM
It's time to set the wheels in motion for the third yearly Liffey Brewers Lambic Barrel. I propose to follow the same approach we took last year. http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,9643.0.html
The date for the fill will be 4th June. Each contribution will be 25L. I've got some old hops that I will distribute those participating. All wort will need to be brewed and delivered to me on the day.
If you're ok with all the above and interested in participating in this barrel please add your name below. If we're oversubscribed we'll give preference to previous participants and active Liffey Brewers.
1. imark
2. DamienE
The date for the fill will be 4th June. Each contribution will be 25L. I've got some old hops that I will distribute those participating. All wort will need to be brewed and delivered to me on the day.
If you're ok with all the above and interested in participating in this barrel please add your name below. If we're oversubscribed we'll give preference to previous participants and active Liffey Brewers.
1. imark
2. DamienE
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: Rossa on May 09, 2016, 11:55:36 PM
Post by: Rossa on May 09, 2016, 11:55:36 PM
1. imark
2. DamienE
3. Rossa
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2. DamienE
3. Rossa
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Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: diarmuid on May 10, 2016, 08:05:31 AM
Post by: diarmuid on May 10, 2016, 08:05:31 AM
1. imark
2. DamienE
3. Rossa
4. Diarmuid
2. DamienE
3. Rossa
4. Diarmuid
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: Leann ull on May 10, 2016, 12:07:15 PM
Post by: Leann ull on May 10, 2016, 12:07:15 PM
1. imark
2. DamienE
3. Rossa
4. Diarmuid
Reserve List
CH Up to 50L if you need it.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: lordstilton on May 11, 2016, 08:39:12 AM
Post by: lordstilton on May 11, 2016, 08:39:12 AM
1. imark
2. DamienE
3. Rossa
4. Diarmuid
5. Lordstilton
2. DamienE
3. Rossa
4. Diarmuid
5. Lordstilton
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: Leann ull on May 11, 2016, 10:31:17 AM
Post by: Leann ull on May 11, 2016, 10:31:17 AM
Jesus tough love in LV
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160511/30df18210fdb3f6ce9634a8278b8f93c.jpg)
It's the week before my holliers so probably a bit ambitious on my part in any case.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160511/30df18210fdb3f6ce9634a8278b8f93c.jpg)
It's the week before my holliers so probably a bit ambitious on my part in any case.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on May 11, 2016, 12:18:37 PM
Post by: imark on May 11, 2016, 12:18:37 PM
I think that was accidental :P
1. imark
2. DamienE
3. Rossa
4. Diarmuid
5. Lordstilton
6. CH
1. imark
2. DamienE
3. Rossa
4. Diarmuid
5. Lordstilton
6. CH
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: Leann ull on May 11, 2016, 10:42:47 PM
Post by: Leann ull on May 11, 2016, 10:42:47 PM
Feck it I'm in just let me know vol 
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: molc on May 12, 2016, 08:40:15 AM
Post by: molc on May 12, 2016, 08:40:15 AM
Quote from: CH on May 11, 2016, 10:42:47 PMCheck out the top post ;) (25L)
Feck it I'm in just let me know vol
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Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on May 24, 2016, 05:17:19 PM
Post by: imark on May 24, 2016, 05:17:19 PM
There are a few missing from the list that were involved last year. So your prospects are looking good CH.
Will close the list of participants on Friday next (27th May) so we can organise contribution size and to allow time for required ingredient purchase etc.
If you want in on this get your name on this list by then please.
Will close the list of participants on Friday next (27th May) so we can organise contribution size and to allow time for required ingredient purchase etc.
If you want in on this get your name on this list by then please.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: Leann ull on May 25, 2016, 10:28:34 PM
Post by: Leann ull on May 25, 2016, 10:28:34 PM
Looks straight forward enough, any pref on flaked or torrified, best that we all use same or does it matter?
We not following Cantillion's regime ;)?
Ingredients:
Per 25L
4kg of pilsner malt
2kg of unmalted wheat or torrified/flaked wheat
20g 4% AA Saaz (or equivalent to 10 IBU)
Mash:
Option 1 - Incl Cereal Mash - This is required for raw wheat as the first 2 steps are the ceral mash
1. Dough in 2kg of unmalted wheat and 400g of pilsner with 10L @60C
2. Increase temperature to 100C and hold there for 30min
3. Add 3.6kg of pilsner and 3L water. Adjust mash to 70C and hold for 2hrs, stirring regularly, then rest for 30min
4. Sparge with 20L @95C
Option 2 - Infusion step mash - This is best suited if you use flaked/torrified wheat or your kit doesn't suit doing the cereal mash
1. Dough in at 45c for 15min
2. Rest at 50c for 15 min
3. Rest at 65c for 45min
4. Rest at 70c for 30 min
5. Mash out 76c and sparge with 88c water
Boil:
Boil for 2hrs
Add 10IBU low AA hops @60min
We not following Cantillion's regime ;)?
Ingredients:
Per 25L
4kg of pilsner malt
2kg of unmalted wheat or torrified/flaked wheat
20g 4% AA Saaz (or equivalent to 10 IBU)
Mash:
Option 1 - Incl Cereal Mash - This is required for raw wheat as the first 2 steps are the ceral mash
1. Dough in 2kg of unmalted wheat and 400g of pilsner with 10L @60C
2. Increase temperature to 100C and hold there for 30min
3. Add 3.6kg of pilsner and 3L water. Adjust mash to 70C and hold for 2hrs, stirring regularly, then rest for 30min
4. Sparge with 20L @95C
Option 2 - Infusion step mash - This is best suited if you use flaked/torrified wheat or your kit doesn't suit doing the cereal mash
1. Dough in at 45c for 15min
2. Rest at 50c for 15 min
3. Rest at 65c for 45min
4. Rest at 70c for 30 min
5. Mash out 76c and sparge with 88c water
Boil:
Boil for 2hrs
Add 10IBU low AA hops @60min
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on May 26, 2016, 09:06:42 AM
Post by: imark on May 26, 2016, 09:06:42 AM
That process you've posted looks interesting. Are they Dodge's notes from the cantillon brewday? 🤔
Personally, I intend to give cereal mash a miss this year as I've a lot on my hands that day. I'd encourage trying it if you're curious about it. I'm leaning towards flaked wheat and step mash option.
Personally, I intend to give cereal mash a miss this year as I've a lot on my hands that day. I'd encourage trying it if you're curious about it. I'm leaning towards flaked wheat and step mash option.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on May 27, 2016, 09:19:47 PM
Post by: imark on May 27, 2016, 09:19:47 PM
Final list. Check the volume I have you down to contribute and adjust if it's incorrect
1. imark - 50L
2. DamienE - 25L
3. Rossa - 25L
4. Diarmuid - 50L
5. Lordstilton - 50L
6. CH - 50L
Top-up - Dodge 25L
1. imark - 50L
2. DamienE - 25L
3. Rossa - 25L
4. Diarmuid - 50L
5. Lordstilton - 50L
6. CH - 50L
Top-up - Dodge 25L
Title: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: Leann ull on May 28, 2016, 08:24:52 PM
Post by: Leann ull on May 28, 2016, 08:24:52 PM
I'm happy to bring the top up, loads there in any case
What's the volume 220+?
1. imark - 50L
2. DamienE - 25L
3. Rossa - 25L
4. Diarmuid - 50L
5. Lordstilton - 50L
6. CH - 25l and 25 safety top up
7. Dodge 25L
What's the volume 220+?
1. imark - 50L
2. DamienE - 25L
3. Rossa - 25L
4. Diarmuid - 50L
5. Lordstilton - 50L
6. CH - 25l and 25 safety top up
7. Dodge 25L
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on May 28, 2016, 10:01:01 PM
Post by: imark on May 28, 2016, 10:01:01 PM
250L plus. Have a couple of top uppers lined up. Always needed. Best thing is to bring full amount on Saturday. We'll have 200L initially and top up a few days later.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: GarLo on May 29, 2016, 08:42:21 PM
Post by: GarLo on May 29, 2016, 08:42:21 PM
Hey Mark, if there's any room left in there I'd be good for 25L?
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on May 30, 2016, 04:09:52 PM
Post by: imark on May 30, 2016, 04:09:52 PM
Quote from: GarLo on May 29, 2016, 08:42:21 PMYour on the stand by list. We've got enough people planned but if we've a drop out etc I'll let you know.
Hey Mark, if there's any room left in there I'd be good for 25L?
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: lordstilton on May 30, 2016, 04:11:56 PM
Post by: lordstilton on May 30, 2016, 04:11:56 PM
Gar you can have 25L of my 50L I'd you can have it brewed for Saturday
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on May 30, 2016, 05:39:28 PM
Post by: imark on May 30, 2016, 05:39:28 PM
Leave that to yourselves to agree.
My only stipulation is that you have a container with me for last year's stuff by this Fri. And secondly, that you brew Saturday morning and deliver to me Saturday afternoon.
My only stipulation is that you have a container with me for last year's stuff by this Fri. And secondly, that you brew Saturday morning and deliver to me Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: GarLo on May 30, 2016, 09:57:53 PM
Post by: GarLo on May 30, 2016, 09:57:53 PM
No probs I'll sort out the minutia with Mr stilton.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: Leann ull on June 01, 2016, 09:16:39 PM
Post by: Leann ull on June 01, 2016, 09:16:39 PM
Less Jumps in the Aga Khan but looking forward to the challenge.
On the plus side I'll be using "cheap rate" for the HLT :)
On the plus side I'll be using "cheap rate" for the HLT :)
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on June 04, 2016, 06:37:19 PM
Post by: imark on June 04, 2016, 06:37:19 PM
Barrel is filling up nicely. In there so far:
DamienE
Ch
Rossa
Diarmuid
and of course my contribution 😊
~220L initially and top up next week from Lordstilton should finish it.
Thanks to Damien and Rossa for helping out with the fill. Went nice and smoothly.
DamienE
Ch
Rossa
Diarmuid
and of course my contribution 😊
~220L initially and top up next week from Lordstilton should finish it.
Thanks to Damien and Rossa for helping out with the fill. Went nice and smoothly.
Title: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: Leann ull on June 04, 2016, 07:44:46 PM
Post by: Leann ull on June 04, 2016, 07:44:46 PM
Big thanks to Mark for organising and being the landlord.
Was an interesting brew day alright as I never had 14kgs in my MT before
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160604/c708d1aa5e5084a6668b51bfe876ae3f.jpg)
But worked well with throttled Chugger and long mash and I went over target.
https://vimeo.com/169372015 (https://vimeo.com/169372015)
Never used one of these before in my brewing either so thanks all round for the learning experience.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160604/a4f2387f170c65791f284ffefa71395d.jpg)
Was an interesting brew day alright as I never had 14kgs in my MT before
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160604/c708d1aa5e5084a6668b51bfe876ae3f.jpg)
But worked well with throttled Chugger and long mash and I went over target.
https://vimeo.com/169372015 (https://vimeo.com/169372015)
Never used one of these before in my brewing either so thanks all round for the learning experience.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160604/a4f2387f170c65791f284ffefa71395d.jpg)
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on June 05, 2016, 11:37:04 AM
Post by: imark on June 05, 2016, 11:37:04 AM
https://youtu.be/81KInVZKt5I (https://youtu.be/81KInVZKt5I)
Going like the clappers this morning
Going like the clappers this morning
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on June 06, 2016, 08:43:56 PM
Post by: imark on June 06, 2016, 08:43:56 PM
LordStilton arrived with fresh wort to top up this evening. I'm happy to report that the barrel is now full and fermentation is well underway.
Thanks to everyone involved for turning up with the correct volumes on time. It was a fairly painless process this time.
Thanks to everyone involved for turning up with the correct volumes on time. It was a fairly painless process this time.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: Leann ull on June 06, 2016, 10:10:22 PM
Post by: Leann ull on June 06, 2016, 10:10:22 PM
A novice question, the purpose of the top up is that to replace liquid from blowoff?
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on June 07, 2016, 07:59:21 AM
Post by: imark on June 07, 2016, 07:59:21 AM
No. We needed a top up as it wasn't completely full on Saturday.
Title: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: Leann ull on June 07, 2016, 09:19:01 AM
Post by: Leann ull on June 07, 2016, 09:19:01 AM
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: auralabuse on June 07, 2016, 09:49:06 PM
Post by: auralabuse on June 07, 2016, 09:49:06 PM
What was the cooler used for out of interest?
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Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: DEMPSEY on June 07, 2016, 10:32:16 PM
Post by: DEMPSEY on June 07, 2016, 10:32:16 PM
To cool the cooling water of the counterflow :)
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: Leann ull on June 08, 2016, 12:27:32 AM
Post by: Leann ull on June 08, 2016, 12:27:32 AM
I was brewing 24hrs in advance of the others and need to be finished by 5pm on the Friday so task was to get 55L with ambient water temp, 13 Degrees, (High for me but air temp was 24 on Friday :o) to 5 Degrees or below.
I'd seen it in other brewers setups and wanted to give it a go.
The 5 degrees was to ensure there was no unwelcome guests before it got anywhere near the barrel on the Sat fill and was still cold when it was delivered, so used it initially with whirlpool and then finished straight into fermentor using a small pump straight out of the boiler through the coil.
I was thinking I could use it for pilsner wort as current mad summer temps can only get to 20 degrees for 35L and then I pump into conical in the fridge for 3-4 hours to get to target 10 Degrees.
I'm a bit A retentive when it comes to hygiene and a use SS like holy water but to be honest it was a complete pain to first run through PBW, water, starsan for sanitation etc even though I achieved the desired result and for good measure topped off with a good squirt of C02 I won't be doing it again reverting back to the fill and chill method as I won't have the time constraint next time.
I'd seen it in other brewers setups and wanted to give it a go.
The 5 degrees was to ensure there was no unwelcome guests before it got anywhere near the barrel on the Sat fill and was still cold when it was delivered, so used it initially with whirlpool and then finished straight into fermentor using a small pump straight out of the boiler through the coil.
I was thinking I could use it for pilsner wort as current mad summer temps can only get to 20 degrees for 35L and then I pump into conical in the fridge for 3-4 hours to get to target 10 Degrees.
I'm a bit A retentive when it comes to hygiene and a use SS like holy water but to be honest it was a complete pain to first run through PBW, water, starsan for sanitation etc even though I achieved the desired result and for good measure topped off with a good squirt of C02 I won't be doing it again reverting back to the fill and chill method as I won't have the time constraint next time.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on February 13, 2017, 09:59:53 PM
Post by: imark on February 13, 2017, 09:59:53 PM
Time to schedule empty the barrel. I'm going to propose we have it emptied and refilled on 18th March.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on February 15, 2017, 07:59:41 PM
Post by: imark on February 15, 2017, 07:59:41 PM
Contributors were:
1. imark - 50L
2. DamienE - 25L
3. Rossa - 25L
4. Diarmuid - 50L
5. Lordstilton - 25L
6. CH - 50L
7. Dodge 25L
Can everyone get kegs/drums for their share to me between 12-17 March please. I will have them filled and ready for collection when you're dropping the fresh wort.
I'd like to start early on the morning of 18th so could people drop their wort to me early please.
I'm assuming same contributors and amounts this fill. If there is any changes required please let me know over the next week or so.
Same recipe as last time. I have enough 'special' hops to do the full barrel so can distribute when I get the kegs or beforehand as arranged. I think flaked wheat order is in hand also.
1. imark - 50L
2. DamienE - 25L
3. Rossa - 25L
4. Diarmuid - 50L
5. Lordstilton - 25L
6. CH - 50L
7. Dodge 25L
Can everyone get kegs/drums for their share to me between 12-17 March please. I will have them filled and ready for collection when you're dropping the fresh wort.
I'd like to start early on the morning of 18th so could people drop their wort to me early please.
I'm assuming same contributors and amounts this fill. If there is any changes required please let me know over the next week or so.
Same recipe as last time. I have enough 'special' hops to do the full barrel so can distribute when I get the kegs or beforehand as arranged. I think flaked wheat order is in hand also.
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: DamienE on February 15, 2017, 09:05:48 PM
Post by: DamienE on February 15, 2017, 09:05:48 PM
Thanks Mark
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: Leann ull on February 15, 2017, 09:06:26 PM
Post by: Leann ull on February 15, 2017, 09:06:26 PM
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on March 11, 2017, 08:34:03 AM
Post by: imark on March 11, 2017, 08:34:03 AM
Keg/drum for emptying
1. imark - 50L
2. DamienE - 25L
3. Rossa - 25L
4. Diarmuid - 50L
5. Lordstilton - 25L
6. CH - 50L
7. Dodge 25L
Can you guys let me know when you can get kegs/drums to me for emptying please
1. imark - 50L
2. DamienE - 25L
3. Rossa - 25L
4. Diarmuid - 50L
5. Lordstilton - 25L
6. CH - 50L
7. Dodge 25L
Can you guys let me know when you can get kegs/drums to me for emptying please
Title: Re: Lambic Barrel 2016
Post by: imark on March 21, 2018, 05:00:15 PM
Post by: imark on March 21, 2018, 05:00:15 PM
Quote from: imark on March 11, 2017, 08:34:03 AMRefill date is scheduled for 8th April as discussed on our WhatsApp group.
Keg/drum for emptying
1. imark - 50L
2. DamienE - 25L
3. Rossa - 25L
4. Diarmuid - 50L
5. Lordstilton - 25L
6. CH - 50L
7. Dodge 25L
Can you guys let me know when you can get kegs/drums to me for emptying please