National Homebrew Club Ireland

Styles Open to be entered are:

- 12C. English IPA
- 21A. American IPA
- 21B. Specialty IPA (Including, but not limited to,Belgian IPA, Black IPA, Brown IPA, Red IPA & White IPA)
- 22A. Double IPA

Brewers are limited to only one entry per subcategory – max 4 entries. The competition total limit is 60.

Members Only
Registration is open only to Full National Homebrew Club members. Members must use their email address associated with their membership in order to register.

Online Payment
Entry fees must be paid online using the competition application; payment MUST be made using PayPal. Paypals fees must be paid by entrant. Entries will not be confirmed until payment has been received.
If required, withdrawal of paid entries must be made prior to registration cut off date (14th August 2016) after which point the entry will be deemed committed and no refund will be available.

Drop Points
Wallace's Asti, 18 Russell Street, Dublin 1 will act as main drop point.
Local Club Reps will be contacted and will advise if any local club members can act as a drop point that will be able to transport entries to the venue for judging.

General Structure, Rules & Regulations
All entries must be handcrafted products, containing ingredients available to the general public, and made using private equipment by hobbyist brewers (i.e., no use of commercial facilities or Brew on Premises operations, supplies, etc.).

The competition organizers are not responsible for mis-categorized entries, mailed entries that are not received by the entry deadline, or entries that arrived damaged.

The competition organizers reserve the right to combine styles for judging and to restructure awards as needed depending upon the quantity and quality of entries.

Qualified judging of all entries is the primary goal of our event. Judges will evaluate and score each entry. The average of the scores will rank each entry in its category. Each flight will have at least one BJCP judge.

The competition committee reserves the right to combine categories based on number of entries. All possible effort will be made to combine similar styles. All brews in combined categories will be judged according to the style they were originally entered in.

Entries

- There is a limit of sixty (60) entries for this competition.
- Entry Fees: €5.00 per entry.
- Entries must be registered and paid by 14th August.
- Entries must be 2 x 500ml Brown crown capped or swing-top bottles regardless of strength. These must be void of all identifying information, including labels and embossing.
- Corked bottles are not acceptable .
- Printed caps are allowed, but must be blacked out completely.
- Brown glass bottles are preferred; however, green glass will be accepted. Clear glass is not acceptable. 
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- Bottles will not be returned to contest entrants.

- Competition labels must be submitted with all entries, and can be printed directly from this website.

- Labels should be attached to bottles with a rubber band only; glue and/or tape are unacceptable.

- Bottles not meeting the above requirements will be disqualified

- Please fill out the entry forms completely. Be meticulous about noting any special ingredients that must be specified. Failure to note such ingredients may impact the judges' scoring of your entry.


Competition & Prizes

The Best of Show judging will be determined by a Best of Show panel based on a second judging of the top winners.

The awards ceremony will take place once judging is completed.

Places will be awarded to each sub category based on size: Large sub-categories will have slots for 1st, 2nd & Honourable Mention (HM), Smaller sub-categories will depend in entries received. (IE. We can't offer 3 medals for a sub-category with 4 entries...). The competition organizers reserves the right to dictate how this will be structured based on confirmed entries registered and will publish the same in advance of the competition date.

Top placing entries in each sub-category will advance to the Best of Show (BOS) round with a single, overall Best of Show beer selected.
Additional prizes may be awarded to those winners present at the awards ceremony at the discretion of the competition organizers.

Prizes will be announced ahead of the competition date.

The competition organizer is not responsible for inaccurate prize details supplied to any entrant by any third party connected with this competition.

No cash alternative to the prizes will be offered. The prizes are not transferable. Prizes are subject to availability and we reserve the right to substitute any prize with another of equivalent value without giving notice.

Score sheets will either be scanned and emailed or returned after the awards ceremony – awards will be available after the ceremony concludes. Score sheets not picked up will be emailed back to participants. Results will be posted to the competition web site after the ceremony concludes. Bottles will not be returned to entrants.



The competition organizers reserves the right to cancel or amend the competition and these terms and conditions without notice in the event of a catastrophe, war, civil or military disturbance, act of God or any actual or anticipated breach of any applicable law or regulation or any other event outside of The competition organizer's control. Any changes to the competition will be notified to entrants, via Nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/, as soon as possible by the competition organizer.

Entry into the competition will be deemed as acceptance of these full terms and conditions set out above.

Is it going to be bjcp registered? Chasing my judging points :)

Quote from: molc on June 11, 2016, 01:47:54 PM
Is it going to be bjcp registered? Chasing my judging points :)

Hopefully, I paid the fee with them so waiting on the confirmation. Will revert here once I have more deets


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Nice. Looking forward to this

Quote from: molc on June 11, 2016, 01:47:54 PM
Is it going to be bjcp registered? Chasing my judging points :)

Got email confirmation this morning from the BJCP - Judges will get Credit for participation in this competition.

Two weeks between drop and judging day - have you arranged refrigerated storage of entries?

Quote from: SlugTrap on June 15, 2016, 02:57:56 PM
Two weeks between drop and judging day - have you arranged refrigerated storage of entries?

Yep


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A really big fridge downstairs in Asti dedicated for beer, One of the reasons for going there.


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If I brew this weekend, do you think I would have one ready?

A week per percent, loads of time maybe even too early if you want punchy fresh hops to shine?

I'm brewing a 9% DIPA this weekend, as I'll be away til July otherwise. Lot of lads brewing for lower level IPA styles will probably closer to the time to get that "fresh as possible" entry.


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https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/how-to-brew/5-tips-on-brewing-ipas-from-mitch-steele/


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Interesting article and comment there about fast chilling to save aroma!

Not sure what he say's here,

QuoteFerment at 67°F (19°C) for 18 days with the yeast of your choosing. On the third day, dry hop with Chinook at bunging. Beginning on day four, make sure to keep top pressure on the beer to naturally carbonate. Pull the yeast on day 10. Chill to 32°F (0°C) for the final three days (days 19-21), and filter for a bright, crisp taste.

Is he saying that you need a pressure tank and you ferment for a total of 18 day's and then during that time you add your dry hop but not clear when he says remove dry hop.

Sounds like it alright, not sure how feasible that is for the average homebrewer, unless you ferment in a corny from day 1


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Would 21B. be accepting New English IPA'S as entries?

Quote from: fishjam45 on June 16, 2016, 10:54:51 PM
Would 21B. be accepting New English IPA'S as entries?

Just out of interest what would you count as a new English IPA?

Think he means "New England" ipa's northeast coast states of the USA


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Sorry, damn autocorrect on my phone. ;)
I meant New England IPA.

Ahh that makes more sense. Cloudy IPA's however are a different story....  :P

If an IPA had a large fruit addition in what category would it end up? Or is it a fruit beer and belongs in 29A? And are Brett IPA's allowed? How about kettle soured IPA's?!

21b me thinks! But let's see what Dave says


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Oh she'll be cloudy ....

Yep, this is what Speciality IPA category was made for, not so much experimental beers but beers that fit the general theme of IPAs

From the horse's mouth

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Specialty IPA isn't a distinct style, but is more appropriately thought of as a competition entry category. Beers entered as this style are not experimental beers; they are a collection of currently produced types of beer that may or may not have any market longevity. This category also allows for expansion, so potential future IPA variants (St. Patrick's Day Green IPA, Romulan Blue IPA, Zima Clear IPA, etc.) have a place to be entered without redoing the style guidelines. The only common element is that they have the balance and overall impression of an IPA (typically, an American IPA) but with some minor tweak.The term 'IPA' is used as a singular descriptor of a type of hoppy, bitter beer. It is not meant to be spelled out as 'India Pale Ale' when used in the context of a Specialty IPA. None of these beers ever historically went to India, and many aren't pale. But the craft beer market knows what to expect in balance when a beer is described as an 'IPA' – so the modifiers used to differentiate them are based on that concept alone.

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Sweet, so I'm ok to brew it.
Lovely jubbly

Quote from: Pheeel on June 17, 2016, 01:59:14 PM
Ahh that makes more sense. Cloudy IPA's however are a different story....  :P

Even if you entered it under a traditional style, if the aroma, mouth-feel and taste line up, and you get a decent overall impression  max you'll lose for appearance is 3 points.

Quote from: garciaBernal on June 17, 2016, 02:06:08 PM
If an IPA had a large fruit addition in what category would it end up? Or is it a fruit beer and belongs in 29A? And are Brett IPA's allowed? How about kettle soured IPA's?!

Good question.


the Fruit IPA may be more suited to 29A alright as if you're using a "large fruit addition" not sure if that counts as a minor tweak as per the brief for 21B. EG: If you had made a White IPA with lemon zest or an American IPA with Grapefruit peels (EG Elvis juice) you'd be grand.

Brett/ Kettle Sour IPA might be a grey area, the Brett & Mixed Fermentation (28 A&B) seem to suit this a bit more as they refer to Variable by base style in the briefs for those. While one might challenge that these could be seen as minor tweaks to an IPA recipe (EG subbing out Sacch for Brett in a typical IPA recipe), the beer taste/aroma/mouthfeel itself would probably change significantly enough, I would be inclined to say they would not be suitable for 21B as they would be more suited to the Brett and Sour categories..


Might be worth getting some input from the other BJCP lads, so let me comeback to you.

Quote from: Hingo on June 17, 2016, 05:00:05 PM

Quote from: garciaBernal on June 17, 2016, 02:06:08 PM
If an IPA had a large fruit addition in what category would it end up? Or is it a fruit beer and belongs in 29A? And are Brett IPA's allowed? How about kettle soured IPA's?!

Good question.


the Fruit IPA may be more suited to 29A alright as if you're using a "large fruit addition" not sure if that counts as a minor tweak as per the brief for 21B. EG: If you had made a White IPA with lemon zest or an American IPA with Grapefruit peels (EG Elvis juice) you'd be grand.

Brett/ Kettle Sour IPA might be a grey area, the Brett & Mixed Fermentation (28 A&B) seem to suit this a bit more as they refer to Variable by base style in the briefs for those. While one might challenge that these could be seen as minor tweaks to an IPA recipe (EG subbing out Sacch for Brett in a typical IPA recipe), the beer taste/aroma/mouthfeel itself would probably change significantly enough, I would be inclined to say they would not be suitable for 21B as they would be more suited to the Brett and Sour categories..


Might be worth getting some input from the other BJCP lads, so let me comeback to you.

Ok forget I said all that.

If it's an IPA and has fruit, Brett, is a  kettle sour or anything for that matter bang it in to 21b.

Key requirement is it has the balance and overall impression of an IPA. After that it's up to the entrant to use their own diligence to judge if their beer meets this requirement.


This will be an interesting category!


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If you were picking a category for Brett and sour Ipa, you'd probably go for American wild (cat 28) usually. Fruit additions that fit into the classical tropical fruit flavours would probably go into the standard ipa categories, whereas the others would be speciality ipa with a twist.

The key is the direction given to the judges really. If we're told to treat 21B as a free for all and also told the expected characteristics, well judge it to those standards. The style guides and how they apply to a competition are entirely upto the discretion of the competition organisers.

Please though only state ingredients that you or preferably a mate can taste in a beer that you enter, nothing more frustrating when there is a big long descriptive and none of them are there or 2 of the 5!
You may have put them in there but if they are not obvious don't state and just let them add to the mystique.

Sooo .... just to clarify if I made elvis juice what cat (judge/organiser only pls) thanks.

Quote from: LASERBOY147 on July 03, 2016, 06:57:18 PM
Sooo .... just to clarify if I made elvis juice what cat (judge/organiser only pls) thanks.

Quote from: Hingo on June 17, 2016, 06:22:28 PM

Key requirement is it has the balance and overall impression of an IPA. After that it's up to the entrant to use their own diligence to judge if their beer meets this requirement.

I'd recommend that you review the category guidelines for the ones we're accepting and see where

http://www.bjcp.org/docs/2015_Guidelines_Beer.pdf

IMO, If I was entering in elvis juice exactly how it's tastes/smells etc, commercially , I'd go with 21B, but that's me knowing it's made with fruit. I'd say it would get away in 21A too, again from my perspective based on the commercial brew.

I'd say 21B is safer. I can't see it doing well in 21A at all

21B 

Guidelines say: " Entrant must specify specific type of Specialty IPA from the library of known types listed in the Style
Guidelines... or the entrant must describe the type of Specialty IPA and its key characteristics in comment form so judges will know what to expect"

So say that it's a Grapefruit IPA, but make sure the grapefruit comes through.
Same for Brett IPA - keep in mind, though, if the judges can't taste the hops, it will score low, even it it's better than Orval.


Incidentally, guidelines also say: "Entrants may use this category for a different strength version of an IPA defined by its own BJCP subcategory (e.g., session-strength American... "
If you were wondering where/if to enter Session IPAs, there's your answer.

Just adding my comment cos I'm interested in this. Hoping a few are coming from the Belfast lads so we have a pick up.

Is there any scope for posting the bottles to the drop off point? I'm in Kilkenny but I'd like to enter this.

Quote from: BrewDorg on July 06, 2016, 02:38:21 PM
Is there any scope for posting the bottles to the drop off point? I'm in Kilkenny but I'd like to enter this.

Working on that at the mo, watch this space


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Yeah if there was a drop off in Carlow/Kilkenny area that would be great

Quote from: honkytonk52 on July 06, 2016, 08:51:23 PM
Yeah if there was a drop off in Carlow/Kilkenny area that would be great

Leave it with me, My folks / sister live down there so I'm down regular enough myself. if there's a handful of bottles to collect I could ask some place to act as drop off and I could pick them on on a day.

I'll be in touch with local club reps soon to see how their clubs are fixed and if anyone wants to come up on the day.

Quote from: Roo on July 05, 2016, 11:02:06 PM
Just adding my comment cos I'm interested in this. Hoping a few are coming from the Belfast lads so we have a pick up.

Cheers man, have you many Judges or guys interested in Stewarding? PM me perhaps.

Stick me down for stewarding. RDS Beer festival is on that day so I'll probably head out there after.

Just want to clarify, I plan on entering a New England IPA, going to be very cloudy. Should I enter it under 21A or 21B? I feel it would fair better in 21A as if it where in 21B the only thing that would make it different for this category is aesthetics?

21B. 21A states "should be clear, although unfiltered dry-hopped versions may be a bit hazy" so that doesn't match a cloudy IPA

New England ipa are covered under speciality, which was added to the new styleguides to be a catchall for whatever wacky ipa comes along next. As a result, the definition for ipa is quite strict and you'll get marked down if you don't match it exactly.
New England Ipa should be in 21B, no question. When the judges pour pea soup, they'll know what's going on ;)

What is the procedure for entering a beer comp.  Is there an entry form or something? 

Entry is via the competition website details of which will be announced in the next few days.

Quote from: phoenix on July 12, 2016, 11:04:10 AM
Entry is via the competition website details of which will be announced in the next few days.

Bollix, when I'm on holiday!!!

Stewards Wanted!

We'll need somewhere in the region of 8-10 people to steward for this comp, so if you want to lend a hand, let me know please.

8-10 are you sure? We had 12 running 120 beers in Belfast and just 2 of us ran the 20 odd beers in NCB comp.
Really sorry guys I'm sucking beer in RDS that day what are the timings again?

Is the Beer Festival not the 8th-10th September and this comp is on 27th August?

Quote from: CH on July 13, 2016, 01:31:56 PM
8-10 are you sure? We had 12 running 120 beers in Belfast and just 2 of us ran the 20 odd beers in NCB comp.
Really sorry guys I'm sucking beer in RDS that day what are the timings again?

Want to get it as close to a "nationals" day as possible, which means 1 Judge Table, 1 Steward (or the very odd case of 2 Tables 1 Steward).

Quote from: Johnnycheech on July 13, 2016, 04:35:31 PM
Is the Beer Festival not the 8th-10th September and this comp is on 27th August?

It is. I made a mistake earlier in the thread, was going on last year's RDS dates.

Registration now open!

http://capitalbrewers.org/

OP has been updated with T's & C's also available via website.

I received a email or a pm or a dm or a tweet or something from a Ciaran about the software fit the comp.
I didn't get to replying, now can't find the message.

Quote from: johnrm on July 15, 2016, 07:56:42 AM
I received a email or a pm or a dm or a tweet or something from a Ciaran about the software fit the comp.
I didn't get to replying, now can't find the message.

No worries, looks like it's all good, Paul & Ciaran did a great job getting it up & running.
If we can, we'll throw a document together for any other clubs looking to host the same software


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Quote from: molc on July 12, 2016, 08:35:56 AM
New England ipa are covered under speciality, which was added to the new styleguides to be a catchall for whatever wacky ipa comes along next. As a result, the definition for ipa is quite strict and you'll get marked down if you don't match it exactly.
New England Ipa should be in 21B, no question. When the judges pour pea soup, they'll know what's going on ;)

Vermont/New England/Northeast-style IPAs are definitely a thing of their own (for now) and should be entered in 21B.

I've done some quick and dirty style guidelines for this emerging style/fleeting trend.
Commercial examples are mostly British because otherwise you have to go to Massachusetts, Vermont, or NYC.

Impression
A hazy, unfiltered, or even turbid, straw- or light orange-coloured pale ale with light malt character, low perceived bitterness, juicy tropical/stone fruit/melon/citrus hop flavours and a very soft mouthfeel.

Ingredients
Pale malts with no Crystal. Munich, Carapils, etc for speciality malts. Wheat malt is also sometimes used. 
Conan, the Alchemist's yeast strain released commercially as "Vermont ale yeast", is low flocculating + contributes peach/apricot esters. Other English yeasts like London III 1318 or British 1098 are also used.
Oats, maize or even flour contribute to soft mouthfeel + haze.
New World/American hops, especially newer fruity varieties (e.g. Mosaic, Galaxy) *all* added as late, post-boil, and dry hops.

Examples
Alchemist Header Topper, Cloudwater DIPA v3, Magic Rock UnHuman Cannonball, Brighton Freshman

What's the difference between this and the 2015 definition of a pale, aroma-forward DIPA (22A)?
Clarity and softness. Also much less bitter and fruitier than 22A.

Note: Most commercial example come in around DIPA strengths (~8%) but there is no particular ABV range associated with the style.

To follow up on the above, there were some changes to the DIPA style between the 2008 (14C) and 2015 (22A) guidelines that people should be aware of.

TL;DR - Of Foam & Fury would score as too sweet and maybe too dark by the new 2015 guidelines.

Basically, in the last 10 years DIPAs have shifted from chewy, bitter, and piney* (e.g. Dogfish Head 90 Minute, Ska Decadent) to light, juicy, and fruity (e.g. Odell Myrcenary, Stone Enjoy By, Whiplash Surrender to the Void) thanks to the new generation of aroma hops like Galaxy and Mosaic.

Here are some details with bold added by me.
2008: "Color ranges from golden amber to medium reddish copper"
2015: "Color ranges from golden to light orange copper; most modern versions are fairly pale"

2008: " ...the malt backbone will generally support the strong hop character and provide the best balance....
2015:  "...excessively complex grist can be distracting. Crystal-type malts often muddy the hop flavors, and are generally considered undesirable in significant quantities. "

2008: "Can use a complex variety of hops, typically American or New World"
2015:  "...typically American or New World, often with cutting-edge profiles providing distinctive differences. Modern hops with unusual characteristics are not out of style"

2008:

• OG: 1.070 – 1.090
• FG: 1.010 – 1.020
• SRM: 8 – 15

2015:

• OG: 1.065 – 1.085
• FG: 1.008 – 1.018
• SRM: 6 – 14

If you want to enter an old school/East Coast-style/Foam & Fury clone DIPA, enter it in 21B as "2008 DIPA" or it will be marked (down) by the new guidelines.


Edits to the American IPA category from 2008 (14B) were not as extensive; new guidelines in 2015 (21A) only expand to:

• mention new hop varieties ("...tropical fruit, stone fruit, berry, melon, etc.")
• caution against over-dryhopping ("Grassiness should be minimal, if present.")
• warn about  cloying sweetness ("Restrained use of crystal malts, if any, as high amounts can lead to a sweet finish and clash with the hop character.")

Enter American IPAs as normal.


*except California: Pliny, Stone, et al.

I have a beer statistically right on the border between an IPA and a Double IPA. From a judges point of view what are the stand out characteristics I should look for taste wise that will decide which category I should enter? Thanks. 

Hi there,

Would a Jaggery Pale ale be accepted in to the competition under "21B. Specialty IPA"? Its based on the Radical Brewing recipe by Randy Mosher - http://www.radicalbrewing.com/rbrecip.html

Shanna

Quote from: garciaBernal on July 26, 2016, 12:24:44 PM
I have a beer statistically right on the border between an IPA and a Double IPA. From a judges point of view what are the stand out characteristics I should look for taste wise that will decide which category I should enter? Thanks.

I'd look at 3 things:

• Perceived bitterness - American IPA (21A) tops out at 70IBUs, which is actually not that high. If yours is a tongue scrapper, bump it up to DIPA (22B).
• Hop flavour - At Nationals a lot of DIPAs got marked down as not hoppy enough; be sure you've got the firepower before you pick 22B.
  
  
  • 21A: "A decidedly hoppy pale ale... Hop flavor is medium to very high..."
  • 22B: "An intensely hoppy pale ale... Hop flavour is strong and complex..."
• Alcohol warmth - Is it hot? DIPA allows for this, IPA doesn't, really. Choose accordingly.

Sierra Nevada Torpedo is a great commercial example that might seem like a DIPA, but by the numbers (7.2% ABV, 65 IBUs) is 21A, and has scored well (https://beerandbrewing.com/VLRIQykAANAknpLJ/cbb-beer-review/torpedo-extra-ipa) when rated by BJCP judges.

Quote from: Shanna on July 26, 2016, 05:50:57 PM
Hi there,

Would a Jaggery Pale ale be accepted in to the competition under "21B. Specialty IPA"? Its based on the Radical Brewing recipe by Randy Mosher - http://www.radicalbrewing.com/rbrecip.html

Shanna

Yes. Since we don't have the Historical or Spiced categories open by the terms of the competition, then special little snowflakes like that should go into 21B with notes for the judges.

Just a quick update guys, We're gonna move out the registration and drop off deadlines respectively by a week. having a chat about it, it was probably a bit early to expect beers to be in by. - I'll update the OP and website

Prize wise, So far we've got a couple of goodies, and thanks to Irish Goat for asking them, Rascals Brewing be able to offer the BoS winner a  Pro:Am brewday with them after the summer when things quieten down.

There may be some extra T's & C's for this - EG if the recipe, when scaled up, requires hops that are hard to get, may need to review the recipe.. all depends on what's being brewed etc.

Also thanks to The Mottly Brew, who will be providing a prize also. (further details to follow)

We should have a few more to announce, i'm just waiting to see what we can cover with the fees too, I've my eye on a nice shiny piece of equipment, otherwise there'll be a couple of other goodies to follow in there.

With the extra weeks deadline, there's still some time for some last minute entries.

A number of club reps have agreed to act as drop off points so if you're interested in entering, speak to your local guys and see what you can manage.

Sweet. That's good news on moving out the deadlines :)

Great prizes too!

Just hoping a big 100% Nelson Sauvin beer doesn't win or Cathal and Emma from Rascals won't speak to us ever again.  :P

Lads just dropped my beer off to Wallace Asti but nobody in there knew anything about the restaurant acting as a drop off point or anything about the competition. May I suggest you double check with whoever gave the go ahead or them to act as a drop-off point.

Shanna

Hey,
Sorry about that, just clarified everything with the manager, we discussed everything a good while ago and it's all good, think they kinda forgot about it.
Your beer is now in the cold room downstairs.
Thanks for the wakeup call!

Quote from: fyodor on July 30, 2016, 07:26:07 PM
Hey,
Sorry about that, just clarified everything with the manager, we discussed everything a good while ago and it's all good, think they kinda forgot about it.
Your beer is now in the cold room downstairs.
Thanks for the wakeup call!

Hi no problem they were cool with it & took the beer no problem just was a few awkward minutes cause no one knew anything about it. Glad you got it sorted.

Shanna

is there a dropoff point in the midlands?

Would a fruit ipa with lactose and vanilla be covered in the 21B. Specialty IPA cat.?

Quote from: Damofto on July 31, 2016, 12:21:32 PM
is there a dropoff point in the midlands?

Only local drop points apart from the venue are with club reps. I mailed all the club reps a few weeks back, so check with your local club rep.

So far following have got back to me
Garden County brewers
North County brewers
Wee County brewers
Kilkenny brewers
Liffey brewers
South Kildare brewers
Belfast and cork

In saying this, if your club is not here, check with your rep. Alternative solution would be the good ol' NHC express


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Just checking dates again, has the original post been updated to 14th and 27th or do we still need to add a week to both?

Im fairly certain the first post was updated with the new dates.

Quote from: Ciaran on August 01, 2016, 04:18:34 PM
Just checking dates again, has the original post been updated to 14th and 27th or do we still need to add a week to both?

OP was edited
Used to say 6th and 13th


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Quote from: Ohnidog on August 01, 2016, 11:54:02 AM
Would a fruit ipa with lactose and vanilla be covered in the 21B. Specialty IPA cat.?

I'd say the same applies again: 21B for special cases, with ingredients listed.

Quote from: SlugTrap on July 27, 2016, 02:58:37 PM

Quote from: Shanna on July 26, 2016, 05:50:57 PM
Hi there,

Would a Jaggery Pale ale be accepted in to the competition under "21B. Specialty IPA"? Its based on the Radical Brewing recipe by Randy Mosher - http://www.radicalbrewing.com/rbrecip.html

Shanna

Yes. Since we don't have the Historical or Spiced categories open by the terms of the competition, then special little snowflakes like that should go into 21B with notes for the judges.

A bit late in the proceeding, but interesting piece on designing an IPA that ages well:

http://beervana.blogspot.ie/2016/06/engineering-ipa-that-lasts.html

Hey..  Is anyone dropping off around Naas area?   

How long does it take for a paid entry to update? Paid this morning but it says I have an unpaid entry. Not putting any pressure on anyone but just wondering is the comp full or is it manual or auto update usually? Cheers lads.

Should be instant. PM me your name and entry info and ill check it for you.

I received your payment alright. Ive marked your entry paid now, not sure what happened there.

If anyone else has issues please post on thread.

Quote from: phoenix on August 09, 2016, 01:58:38 PM
I received your payment alright. Ive marked your entry paid now, not sure what happened there.

If anyone else has issues please post on thread.

Thanks a lot for that.

Quote from: phoenix on August 09, 2016, 01:58:38 PM
I received your payment alright. Ive marked your entry paid now, not sure what happened there.

If anyone else has issues please post on thread.

I'm in the same boat. Paid up, but it's listed as unpaid.

Quote from: Hingo on June 11, 2016, 01:10:44 PM

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Based on BJCP IPA Style Grouping, we want you to brew your best Indian Pale Ale ( Although Pale may optional these days).

Given the warm weather there may be an added challenge for some people but there's plenty of tips and advice to help with this.

Styles Open to be entered are:

12C. English IPA

21A. American IPA

21B. Specialty IPA (Including, but not limited to,Belgian IPA, Black IPA, Brown IPA, Red IPA & White IPA)

22A. Double IPA

The closing date for entries to be registered is 14th August.

Closing date for dropping off bottles is Friday 20th August Beers must be with your local club rep that has agreed to be a drop off point or at the venue below.

The competition will be held on Sat 27th August..

Location: Wallace's Asti, 18 Russell Street, Dublin 1.

There will be prizes for each sub-category, with a grand prize for Best of Show.

Max 60 beers, (Limit: 1 beer per person per  sub-category).

Cost €5 per entry.Must be paid via http://capitalbrewers.org/ using Paypal.

Open to All Full Members of National Homebrew Club.

Full rules, terms & conditions below and on competition website.

Registration Via: http://capitalbrewers.org/

Please PM if you want to volunteer for stewarding or judging.

Styles Open to be entered are:

- 12C. English IPA
- 21A. American IPA
- 21B. Specialty IPA (Including, but not limited to,Belgian IPA, Black IPA, Brown IPA, Red IPA & White IPA)
- 22A. Double IPA

Brewers are limited to only one entry per subcategory – max 4 entries. The competition total limit is 60.

Members Only
Registration is open only to Full National Homebrew Club members. Members must use their email address associated with their membership in order to register.

Online Payment
Entry fees must be paid online using the competition application; payment MUST be made using PayPal. Paypals fees must be paid by entrant. Entries will not be confirmed until payment has been received.
If required, withdrawal of paid entries must be made prior to registration cut off date (14th August 2016) after which point the entry will be deemed committed and no refund will be available.

Drop Points
Wallace's Asti, 18 Russell Street, Dublin 1 will act as main drop point.
Local Club Reps will be contacted and will advise if any local club members can act as a drop point that will be able to transport entries to the venue for judging.

General Structure, Rules & Regulations
All entries must be handcrafted products, containing ingredients available to the general public, and made using private equipment by hobbyist brewers (i.e., no use of commercial facilities or Brew on Premises operations, supplies, etc.).

The competition organizers are not responsible for mis-categorized entries, mailed entries that are not received by the entry deadline, or entries that arrived damaged.

The competition organizers reserve the right to combine styles for judging and to restructure awards as needed depending upon the quantity and quality of entries.

Qualified judging of all entries is the primary goal of our event. Judges will evaluate and score each entry. The average of the scores will rank each entry in its category. Each flight will have at least one BJCP judge.

The competition committee reserves the right to combine categories based on number of entries. All possible effort will be made to combine similar styles. All brews in combined categories will be judged according to the style they were originally entered in.

Entries

- There is a limit of sixty (60) entries for this competition.
- Entry Fees: €5.00 per entry.
- Entries must be registered and paid by 14th August.
- Entries must be 2 x 500ml Brown crown capped or swing-top bottles regardless of strength. These must be void of all identifying information, including labels and embossing.
- Corked bottles are not acceptable .
- Printed caps are allowed, but must be blacked out completely.
- Brown glass bottles are preferred; however, green glass will be accepted. Clear glass is not acceptable. 
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- Bottles will not be returned to contest entrants.

- Completed entry forms and recipe sheets must be submitted with all entries, and can be printed directly from this website.

- Entry forms should be attached to bottles with a rubber band only; glue and/or tape are unacceptable.

- Bottles not meeting the above requirements will be disqualified

- Please fill out the entry forms completely. Be meticulous about noting any special ingredients that must be specified. Failure to note such ingredients may impact the judges' scoring of your entry.


Competition & Prizes

The Best of Show judging will be determined by a Best of Show panel based on a second judging of the top winners.

The awards ceremony will take place once judging is completed.

Places will be awarded to each sub category based on size: Large sub-categories will have slots for 1st, 2nd & Honourable Mention (HM), Smaller sub-categories will depend in entries received. (IE. We can't offer 3 medals for a sub-category with 4 entries...). The competition organizers reserves the right to dictate how this will be structured based on confirmed entries registered and will publish the same in advance of the competition date.

Top placing entries in each sub-category will advance to the Best of Show (BOS) round with a single, overall Best of Show beer selected.
Additional prizes may be awarded to those winners present at the awards ceremony at the discretion of the competition organizers.

Prizes will be announced ahead of the competition date.

The competition organizer is not responsible for inaccurate prize details supplied to any entrant by any third party connected with this competition.

No cash alternative to the prizes will be offered. The prizes are not transferable. Prizes are subject to availability and we reserve the right to substitute any prize with another of equivalent value without giving notice.

Score sheets will either be scanned and emailed or returned after the awards ceremony – awards will be available after the ceremony concludes. Score sheets not picked up will be emailed back to participants. Results will be posted to the competition web site after the ceremony concludes. Bottles will not be returned to entrants.



The competition organizers reserves the right to cancel or amend the competition and these terms and conditions without notice in the event of a catastrophe, war, civil or military disturbance, act of God or any actual or anticipated breach of any applicable law or regulation or any other event outside of The competition organizer's control. Any changes to the competition will be notified to entrants, via Nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/, as soon as possible by the competition organizer.

Entry into the competition will be deemed as acceptance of these full terms and conditions set out above.

Quote from: helmet on August 09, 2016, 02:58:16 PM
I'm in the same boat. Paid up, but it's listed as unpaid.

PM me your details.

There were a few others paid but not marked as paid, I think Ive got them all now.

Quote from: phoenix on August 09, 2016, 03:29:52 PM

Quote from: helmet on August 09, 2016, 02:58:16 PM
I'm in the same boat. Paid up, but it's listed as unpaid.

PM me your details.

There were a few others paid but not marked as paid, I think Ive got them all now.

Just checked it again and it's grand now, thanks. I haven't received bottle labels though.

There's a print button beside each entry where you can print them off from the comp page

Ah, grand job, thanks.

Have just emailed everyone registered on http://capitalbrewers.org/ remind everyone that the cut off for registration and payment is this Sunday (14th)

Please can you all make sure you have your entries up and paid for asap, as once the window closes, will be removing non-paid entries.

I've also included further details on drop offs and bottle criteria.  ^-^

Just out of interest how many entries are you at now?

45ish

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Clock is ticking folks.

I've paid for my entries so you can go ahead and shut it down early

Quote from: Simon_ on August 12, 2016, 01:47:53 PM
I've paid for my entries so you can go ahead and shut it down early

Shall we tell Rascals to book you in for your brewing session too?  :P 8)

Quote from: Pheeel on August 12, 2016, 03:57:26 PM
Shall we tell Rascals to book you in for your brewing session too?  :P 8)

It'd give them a chance to order in the all those lovely hops from NZ

Quote from: Pheeel on August 12, 2016, 03:57:26 PM

Quote from: Simon_ on August 12, 2016, 01:47:53 PM
I've paid for my entries so you can go ahead and shut it down early

Shall we tell Rascals to book you in for your brewing session too?  :P 8)

I was just thinking of this when I was bottling my brew..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wedymc7ll1Y

>:D

If they saw my recipe, they'd flat out refuse to brew it. All the hops are in there, damn the expense :)

I just joined to enter this competition. Not brewing too long so this will be my first competition. I'm wondering what to expect with score sheets or feedback. Does everyone turn up on the day? I might have to work myself but hopefully I can make it.

I've made two grand beers for 21A and 21B. Had a third for 12C but I only bottled 2 500ml bottles and one exploded... shit one
All the 330ml bottles were grand, must have been a damaged bottle but lesson learned. Bottle more 500ml as backup.

Anyway, just wondering what to expect on the day really....?

Quote from: craftyfecker on August 18, 2016, 08:59:11 AM
I just joined to enter this competition. Not brewing too long so this will be my first competition. I'm wondering what to expect with score sheets or feedback. Does everyone turn up on the day? I might have to work myself but hopefully I can make it.

I've made two grand beers for 21A and 21B. Had a third for 12C but I only bottled 2 500ml bottles and one exploded... shit one
All the 330ml bottles were grand, must have been a damaged bottle but lesson learned. Bottle more 500ml as backup.

Anyway, just wondering what to expect on the day really....?

On the day, the judges show up and get paired up, then they'll fill in scoresheets on about 8-10 beers per flight each. It's a fairly quiet affair, with a lot of sniffing and looking into the distance through beer goggled eyes, at the end of which, your beer will have two scoresheets done up with an objective description of your beer and points where you could improve recipe or process, if any.

The scoresheets are distributed at some point after the event by the organisers using various means - I'm guessing Capital will use the website they have prepared, but that's up to them. Some competitions hand out the sheets after the event, but we've learned it's better to keep the master copies in case of any issues arising.

As for showing up on the day, the judging part is fairly boring but there's usually people there for the afternoon and evening drinking after all the hard work is done. Great way to meet a bunch of avid homebrewers and we're all more than happy to chat and help with any brewing related questions.

Welcome aboard. Would definitely recommend calling for a pint in the afternoon as it's a great chance to meet other homebrewers and there might be a few samples floating around too.

@Craftyfecker
If you want to get involved you could help out with stewarding? It's a good chance to get to grips with the competition approach to brewing and how things work. Up to you, but it would be otherwise not much of a spectator event until we had results in etc.


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"Completed entry forms and recipe sheets must be submitted with all entries, and can be printed directly from this website"
I must be blind... can't find any entry forms or recipe sheets. Labels already printed.

On the main page it says final drop off is Friday 20th of August. Was going to drop mine off on the 20th but it aint a Friday!

Quote from: garciaBernal on August 18, 2016, 11:40:35 PM
On the main page it says final drop off is Friday 20th of August. Was going to drop mine off on the 20th but it aint a Friday!

My bad I was looking at the calendar in work (at the wrong month) seeing Friday was the 20th, tomorrow is the last day


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Quote from: Rafal on August 18, 2016, 11:14:18 PM
"Completed entry forms and recipe sheets must be submitted with all entries, and can be printed directly from this website"
I must be blind... can't find any entry forms or recipe sheets. Labels already printed.

Hey Rafal,
Just look after labels for now, if your beer is the BOS will need recipes at that stage


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Ufff... Thank You Hingo.

Well I totally missed the recipe sheet requirement too. Great! :(

Same, and can't edit anymore :(

Quote from: Pheeel on August 19, 2016, 12:08:15 PM
Well I totally missed the recipe sheet requirement too. Great! :(

Missed that too  :(

Well if any of us get to bos, Im sure we can worry about the recipe at that point right:)

Dont worry about the recipe sheets lads, they arent required.

That OP-er is some cowboy!!

Have updated the post - Labels only.

If you win, we'll need the recipe for Rascal's to see if they can scale up.

sorry for the confusion.

Just a point to note - If the recipe is not available for the winning brew then it cannot be re-brewed.

CH would you like me to send on the correspondence re the recipe, it was very detailed

Quote from: fyodor on August 19, 2016, 02:54:02 PM
CH would you like me to send on the correspondence re the recipe, it was very detailed

I'm sure it is, I'll pass, thanks for thinking of me though :P

Dropped off my beers to Wallaces on Saturday. Definitely staying for dinner next time! Nice looking place.

looking for a few extra stewards if anyone is intrested put your name down
Will update on how many we need soon, Will take people in the order they have their name Down.

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looking for a few extra stewards if anyone is intrested put your name down
Will update on how many we need soon, Will take people in the order they have their name Down.

1. Fobster
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Well Folks

First & foremost, thanks a mill to all involved! 45 entries in and we're all set for tomorrow


We'll be kicking off at 10 am, Slugtrap (Richard) is our Judge  Director so he will give the Judges a quick brief . Beerfly (Ronan) is Head Steward and will get the Stewards to their assigned tables.

Hopefully should be up and running by 10:30, aiming to have lunch then around 12/12:30 depending on how we get on, we'll have Freshly made Italian Pizzas for everyone involved.

After lunch will get through any beers outstanding in the flights and move to the Best of Show stages. Hoping we'll be all wrapped up for around 3-4pm, again depending on how we get on.

For anyone that want's to come down to to see the day's event, I'd say wait until about 3pm anyway as there'll not be much else happening apart from watching lads tasting samples.

Weather's looking good tomorrow also so it really will be an Indian Summer's day O0. Loosely planning to head to T'O Brennans (Headline's sister pub) after the competition for a pint or two also if you want join us – should be a great day

Kind regards

Dave

Capital Brewers

Best of luck guys sorry I can't make it.

Quote from: CH on August 26, 2016, 06:32:57 PM
Best of luck guys sorry I can't make it.

Cheers John!


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Looking forward to it  ;D

Results, scores and scoresheets are up on the competition website. Any errors or omissions please let me know.

Well done to the winners and thanks to all who volunteered and entered.

Some of the score sheets are missing, I'll upload the rest tomorrow

Folks, seems to be a lot of interest in the BJCP course today, anyone wanting to jump on it, there are 3 slots available for the last three classes.
Thats, Belgians / Stouts / Light beers - with the off flavours split over the last two.

If you want one of the slots - its members only, 45 euro for 3 classes, please email

bjcp@nationalhomebrewclub.ie


Well done to the lads today for all the organising, and apologies for the shameless spamming !!

Thanks for organising this competition folks. It was my first ever competition. I'm elated to have won a gold and silver today! Really impressed by the feedback left on my score card too. Thanks to all involved.

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Big thanks to Richard, David, Ciaran, Fionn & all the little helper elves, sorry mean the Stewards; really was a very well run competition in a great venue.

Great to catch up, have a beer & shoot the breeze afterwards with you all too (that, was definitely not a 5 min walk)

A big thanks to the organisers of the Capital Brewer's Indian Summer Beer Competition, great day out and a great venue too (highly recommend the Calzone! ;)). Couldn't have gone better on the day I thought, and thanks also to the stewards and judges for helping it all go so smoothly.

Terrific standard of beers there on the day. We'll done to all involved and also to all who entered.

Thanks for organising and running this lads, special mention to hingo for picking up our entries in Kilkenny! I'll have to improve my planning and recipe for the next one. The link posted earlier about planning for a change in IPA flavour over time is particularly relevant. It was lovely 1 week in the bottle and went downhill until judging 4 weeks later.

Can't seem to find my score sheet on the site. Am I missing an obvious link or is mine one of the missing ones (no panic with it)?

Quote from: BrewDorg on August 29, 2016, 09:35:29 AM
Can't seem to find my score sheet on the site. Am I missing an obvious link or is mine one of the missing ones (no panic with it)?

Just to let you know that i'm the same, can't see the scoresheet link.  Its no problem as i'm chuffed with my score.

Fair play on organising this and with the swift upload of the results.  You are fairly on the ball there with no messing around.  I might have to ask you to review my brothers score as he finished third in the ipa category with a 44 with his first brew  :P

Quote from: phoenix on August 27, 2016, 03:59:11 PM
Results, scores and scoresheets are up on the competition website. Any errors or omissions please let me know.

Well done to the winners and thanks to all who volunteered and entered.

Thanks for getting the score sheets out so quickly. I am finding it hard to make out any of the writing though. It's for all 4 sheets so think its a scanning issue more than the handwriting.

Quote from: itsclinto on August 29, 2016, 09:53:12 AM
I might have to ask you to review my brothers score as he finished third in the ipa category with a 44 with his first brew  :P

Standard must have been solid as I tasted Molcs and it was well up there and he only placed third in his category.

A high score does not reflect in BOS, it's a beauty contest of the beers in front of the BOS judges.

A judge marked a beer 50 in the Nationals once, it didn't win the BOS or cat though.

Quote from: CH on August 29, 2016, 10:36:35 AM
Standard must have been solid as I tasted Molcs and it was well up there and he only placed third in his category.

A high score does not reflect in BOS, it's a beauty contest of the beers in front of the BOS judges.

A judge marked a beer 50 in the Nationals once, it didn't win the BOS or cat though.

Yep. I understand fully the standard was really high.  I've a bottle of his in the fridge that i'll open during the week.

I probably wasn't clear in what i was saying, it was just that it was his first competition and he did really well in comparison to me.  Hence he won't be brewing on my system anymore  :P

Quote from: CH on August 29, 2016, 10:36:35 AM

Quote from: itsclinto on August 29, 2016, 09:53:12 AM
I might have to ask you to review my brothers score as he finished third in the ipa category with a 44 with his first brew  :P

Standard must have been solid as I tasted Molcs and it was well up there and he only placed third in his category.

High standards indeed - I didn't place at all in my category btw - it was a 35 in the end (judged to have too much alcohol warmth, way too bitter and... something (couldn't read the sheet). Think the top of the cat was 42 and 45, so a good gap to get to the next level. Will have to keep working at that recipe ;)

Things you don't hear about American IPAs "it's too bitter"!!

I rescanned the scoresheets and uploaded to Google Drive:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B2kJ9KkOazDmeUtyU2VhZkx3WEE&usp=sharing

Log into the system to determine your entry number, there should be two sheets, a & b, for your entry.

Quote from: Pheeel on August 29, 2016, 02:23:37 PM
Things you don't hear about American IPAs "it's too bitter"!!

That's my exact feedback...needs more bitterness, bite.

More than happy with how the competition went though. Thanks to all involved.