Incase anyone is reordering oxyturbo bottle from whole sale welding supplies Ireland make sure your getting correct connection on bottle. I am yet to get reply from phone calls or emails to get refund or correct bottle. Looks like new supplier
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Shite, put in an order the other day. Hopefully it'll fit my regulator
Fingers crossed :P
As trying to get after sales service >:(
Hi Jacob any sign of your oxyturbo ?
I still cannot get anyone to contact me from this vendor >:(
It was delivered yesterday dut I didn't get time to hook it up. I'll let you know how I get on tonight.
From a quick glance it looks identical to the one I used before but I haven't compared them side by side or tried to fit the regulator yet.
3 weeks and still cannot get anyone to talk to me about returning who g oxyturbo bottle or respond to emails on same.
Hi B.B., I tested the new bottle I got yesterday. It fits my regulator grand. No complaints. This is the regulator I use:
http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2863
Ye that's the one I have been using last 2 years or more from same company.
I have ordered same gas from same company the same amount of time but they obviously got new supplier of gas and found out the connection is wrong and have gone back to original supplier.
Thing is I'm stuck with the bottle with wrong connection and they won't return my calls or emails.
I'm gonna get on to credit card company or something see if they can get my money back not sure never had this issue before.
Does anyone else have a different supplier of the oxyturbo bottle ?
I used to buy mine in the North they were always a standard fitting, contact them directly complaining about local distributor and asking do they have others.
http://www.oxyturbo.it/oxyturbo-contatti.php
Grand ...that looks like the way to go so cheers CH
While I'm at it......is there a difference in industrial and medical oxygen cylinders as might look into that also
I assume it's all the same but not sure any ideas ?
O2 for welding like Medical has to be pure.
I got one of these a couple of years ago and tbh i did a side by side comparison on fermentation on a 1050 using 2 packs per batch of Bry 97, one with 35 secs of O2, 1 just aerated by pumping into fermentor there was no difference in taste although rate of kickoff was 6 v's 8 hours.
I only use O2 now for lagers and anything above 1070 and not for conventional beers, note for lower gravity beers my starters are typically 2L.
I'm wondering if the non medical ones have any sort oil residue or something.
I seen a photo somewhere of a guy who purged the cylinder of oxygen onto a rag and at the end the rag was discoloured with some sort of residue possibly oil substance.
I know for pneumatic systems there will be an air dryer and lubrication unit which it only provides a microscopic amount oil in the air for moving parts like solenoid valves so i can see the advantage for commercial oxygen.
Maybe the medical cylinders are cleaned internally before every fill....guessing here.
I'm just wondering as commercial ones are easier to get and i think i might go that road as i might know a guy who can sort one for me.
You could add an inline filter between the bottle and the oxygen wand for insurance.
There is an issue with oils in those Co2 cylinder bulbs that are meant for inflating bike tyres and homebrewers use them in for temporarily gassing cornies. The oil is used to form or stretch the bulb to the desired shape with cheaper metals which is not a problem if you are inflating a bike tyre.
The food grade ones are produced with a higher calibre metal and are more expensive.
I had a filter on mine originally like this one http://www.thehomebrewcompany.ie/spare-sterile-filter-for-wort-aerator-p-1204.html and took it off and still have one of these or similar to measure 1L/min on my original Oxy tank
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-quality-0-1-1-5L-oxygen-air-flow-meter-gas-flowmeter-with-copper-connector/32284618012.html?spm=2114.01020208.8.49.UnwIn4
I never saw any oils in either the filter or any residue in the piping or in the gauge.
Never saw any residue myself either.
One of those filters can no harm and cheap.
Cheers good info as always.
There is NEVER repeat NEVER oil in any Oxygen systems.
Welding Oxygen is pure as is Medical grade.
Guess what?? Medical grade is a LOT more expensive than welding grade.
If you want to blow yourself up just oil/grease a fitting and apply pure O2 at 220 bar!
I do get worried that there is technology out there that is down right dangerous to people!
Well no arguing about it so.....better bottle some samples for the uncle with spare bottles oxygen for welding/ cutting O0
And no lubrication of oxygen regulator with oil :o
Whats the advantage of getting a flow meter with the reg? Also is there a housing for those sterile filters at all?
How are you going to know how much o2 you are diffusing into your beer, really important to get that right and also only before you pitch.
No housing just a wide feed in and narrower feed out
Flow meter offers a handy way to target the recommended flow rates (roughly 1 litre per minute for standard gravity wort). There's a brewiki article (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/wordpress/2013/10/oxygenating-wort-with-pure-oxygen/) that goes through the details.
In line filters come in various formats. Here's (http://www.ebay.ie/itm/5-Inline-Sanitary-Filter-Fermentation-Aeration-Oxygenation-Cask-Beer-Engine-Brew-/130992337859?hash=item1e7fc073c3:g:7GgAAMXQ4YtSNQZ4) a simple one with barbs. You be able to find cheaper ones with a more thorough search.
So for a full O2 set up you need the following:
O2 bottle for €28.50
http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=406_375&product_id=2775
Regulator for dispoable bottles €20.80
http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=50_47&product_id=3622
or do I have to get the branded one for €26.90
http://www.wholesaleweldingsupplies.ie/index.php?route=product/product&path=50_47&product_id=2863
Are all the fittings 1/4"?
Yea, the fittings are 1/4" (mine are at any rate).
Don't forget you'll also need a stone diffuser to get the oxygen into solution. One of these gizmos: https://www.morebeer.com/products/oxywand-05-micron.html
Someone else will probably be able to tell you where to get one locally.
Group buy done on them years ago by Johnrm, Norcal I believe was the vendor on eBay or Aliexpress would have them either
Quote from: Dr Jacoby on July 13, 2016, 02:29:06 PM
Yea, the fittings are 1/4" (mine are at any rate).
Don't forget you'll also need a stone diffuser to get the oxygen into solution. One of these gizmos: https://www.morebeer.com/products/oxywand-05-micron.html
Someone else will probably be able to tell you where to get one locally.
I got one the other week from here.
https://www.brewbuilder.co.uk/air-stone-wand.html
Ah that's handy
How much was freight?
Quote from: CH on July 13, 2016, 05:37:37 PM
How much was freight?
£5.21 but I live in the North so might be dearer to the free state.
I've the stone sorted out actually, its the rest of the gear and tubing I need to investigate. Anyone got a bit of 1/4" tubing handy?
Aquarium suppliers will, used beer line for the wand bit
Would aquariums not have O2 set-ups we could use as well?
You can buy a pump from HBS as well if it's just air you want to pump