Title: Want to make a beer with subdued hops flavour
Post by: HughesieD on July 12, 2016, 03:52:32 PM
Post by: HughesieD on July 12, 2016, 03:52:32 PM
I'm pretty new to all grain brewing.
So far so good, about 6 batches in and the beer is much better than extract brewing.
However, all of the brews I've made so far have been heavily hopped and, at the risk of committing heresy, like to try making a couple of batches with a more subdued hops flavour.
Anybody got any advice on doing this?
So far so good, about 6 batches in and the beer is much better than extract brewing.
However, all of the brews I've made so far have been heavily hopped and, at the risk of committing heresy, like to try making a couple of batches with a more subdued hops flavour.
Anybody got any advice on doing this?
Title: Re: Want to make a beer with subdued hops flavour
Post by: phynes1 on July 12, 2016, 03:57:11 PM
Post by: phynes1 on July 12, 2016, 03:57:11 PM
Reduce the amount of hops near the end of the boil. Someone gave me this recipe when I started out brewing. It has some nice clean bitterness with minimal hop flavor. You could even change the 0min addition to a 10min or 5 min addition. Doesn't have to be those hops either.
5Kg Marris Otter
0.25Kg Vienna
75 min Mash @ 65C
Batch Sparge for 30mins @ 75C
8g Centenial; 11g Chinook; 9g Athanum @ 60mins
8g Centenial; 11g Chinook; 9g Athanum @ 30mins
8g Centenial; 11g Chinook; 9g Athanum @ 0mins for 20mins Hop Stand
WL007 Nottingham or English Dry Yeast
5Kg Marris Otter
0.25Kg Vienna
75 min Mash @ 65C
Batch Sparge for 30mins @ 75C
8g Centenial; 11g Chinook; 9g Athanum @ 60mins
8g Centenial; 11g Chinook; 9g Athanum @ 30mins
8g Centenial; 11g Chinook; 9g Athanum @ 0mins for 20mins Hop Stand
WL007 Nottingham or English Dry Yeast
Title: Re: Want to make a beer with subdued hops flavour
Post by: DEMPSEY on July 12, 2016, 05:26:57 PM
Post by: DEMPSEY on July 12, 2016, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: phynes1 on July 12, 2016, 03:57:11 PMSomebody likes their Jaipur I see :)
Reduce the amount of hops near the end of the boil. Someone gave me this recipe when I started out brewing. It has some nice clean bitterness with minimal hop flavor. You could even change the 0min addition to a 10min or 5 min addition. Doesn't have to be those hops either.
5Kg Marris Otter
0.25Kg Vienna
75 min Mash @ 65C
Batch Sparge for 30mins @ 75C
8g Centenial; 11g Chinook; 9g Athanum @ 60mins
8g Centenial; 11g Chinook; 9g Athanum @ 30mins
8g Centenial; 11g Chinook; 9g Athanum @ 0mins for 20mins Hop Stand
WL007 Nottingham or English Dry Yeast
Title: Re: Want to make a beer with subdued hops flavour
Post by: Leann ull on July 12, 2016, 05:54:36 PM
Post by: Leann ull on July 12, 2016, 05:54:36 PM
There is a really smart arse answer to that question but it's really not in my nature to say it 
Plug your recipe into beersmith or similar and adjust your hop bitterness to the level you want.
Is it the aroma or the bitterness you don't like?
If it's the bitterness less of the early additions.
Plug your recipe into beersmith or similar and adjust your hop bitterness to the level you want.
Is it the aroma or the bitterness you don't like?
If it's the bitterness less of the early additions.
Title: Re: Want to make a beer with subdued hops flavour
Post by: HughesieD on July 12, 2016, 06:22:24 PM
Post by: HughesieD on July 12, 2016, 06:22:24 PM
CH - Not sure how to explain this. I actually do like a good hoppy beer but not always.
And I also want to get a proper handle on what I'm doing flavourwise and lashing in a load of hops each time means I can't taste much else.
And I also want to get a proper handle on what I'm doing flavourwise and lashing in a load of hops each time means I can't taste much else.
Title: Re: Want to make a beer with subdued hops flavour
Post by: nigel_c on July 12, 2016, 06:45:46 PM
Post by: nigel_c on July 12, 2016, 06:45:46 PM
A smash recipe is a great way to get to know hops and malt. Pick a single malt (pale, lager, Vienna, Munich) and a single hop and see what you can pick up malt and hop wise.
Lots of info and combonations out there.
Lots of info and combonations out there.
Title: Re: Want to make a beer with subdued hops flavour
Post by: Leann ull on July 12, 2016, 07:38:46 PM
Post by: Leann ull on July 12, 2016, 07:38:46 PM
Sounds like you need to mess around with a few hop teas
Title: Re: Want to make a beer with subdued hops flavour
Post by: SkiBeagle on July 12, 2016, 08:00:15 PM
Post by: SkiBeagle on July 12, 2016, 08:00:15 PM
This is the first beer I brewed. A nice simple smash from Kal in the electric brewery. No real need for Weyermanns malt - you can use any of the Irish lager malts. US05 yeast or Nottingham will give a nice clean flavour. Very nice and quite lager-like if you ferment it fairly cool, 17C or so. I've come back to it a few times.
http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25429
http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25429
Title: Re: Want to make a beer with subdued hops flavour
Post by: delzep on July 12, 2016, 09:09:37 PM
Post by: delzep on July 12, 2016, 09:09:37 PM
Brew a mild
Title: Re: Want to make a beer with subdued hops flavour
Post by: LordEoin on July 12, 2016, 10:30:35 PM
Post by: LordEoin on July 12, 2016, 10:30:35 PM
This is my go-to graph for hop additions, it might help.
(http://hbd.org/discus/messages/43688/46323.jpg)
(http://hbd.org/discus/messages/43688/46323.jpg)
Title: Want to make a beer with subdued hops flavour
Post by: mr hoppy on July 13, 2016, 08:40:18 AM
Post by: mr hoppy on July 13, 2016, 08:40:18 AM
Maybe think about what non hop bomb beer styles or commercial brews you like that have the hop profile you want find some recipes with Google or on here - follow them faithfully, resisting the temptation to add extra hops and go from there.
The Brewing Classic Styles book is a good source also.
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The Brewing Classic Styles book is a good source also.
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Title: Re: Want to make a beer with subdued hops flavour
Post by: LASERBOY147 on July 13, 2016, 01:44:33 PM
Post by: LASERBOY147 on July 13, 2016, 01:44:33 PM
Brew an irisk red ale and put hardly any hops in after 20 mins. Ez