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Title: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 12:00:57 PM
Following in the long tradition of pics of a person's brewday, here's mine today. Started late around 10am and got the water heating and the grains selected. I run the water from the HLT through a pump and then through the herms coil, to get everything moving and make sure it's clear after the last brewday. There's a temp sensor on the out of the herms, which lets me also control the water temperature from the ArdBir.

The second pump is setup for sparging so I don't get confused trying to work out connections later.

Recipe is a simple American Amber.
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 12:03:53 PM
The grains are milled into a plastic bag that lines a fermenter. This keeps the dust down later and the bag serves as the rubbish bag for the rest of the brewday.

I've switched over to buying my base grain in 5kg bags, as I can get fresher grain rather than having a stale 25kg bag lying around. Plus, they fit on top of the mill so I don't have to make a mess adding in grain all the time!

I toss the bag into the mash tun and then just pull it out, leaving the grain behind with no dust. Easy peasy!
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 12:06:03 PM
Ardbir now takes over and gets the water to mash in temperature.
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 12:07:23 PM
After having a coffee, came back to find water at temperature. Connect the herms out to the mash tun and underlet the grain.
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 12:10:33 PM
Finally, connect the herms out to the sparge arm on the MT and connect the MT-OUT to the HERMS-IN. The Ardbir now does the rest and I walk away until the water is at sparge temperature
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 12:44:02 PM
Mash is done. Time to sparge. I connect the HERMS pump back to the HLT-OUT and connect the MT-OUT to the BK, let it slowly drain, then batch sparge and drain while bringing the BK to the boil.

Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 12:45:17 PM
At this point, I also swap around the element connections to the BK, so I don't inadvertently run the HLT elements when they are dry. Learned the lesson the hard way here!
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: Leann ull on July 27, 2016, 01:16:19 PM
Love when folks post their brewdays
I'm such a lazy bastard I just mill straight into MT now ;)
One essential piece of kit there I need to get, croissant, group buy anyone?

I am so fighting the will to automate my herms brewing like Nigel and you with a box, I still like the steam engine fiddling approach which does give me 100% temp control accuracy, just feel like I'm more in control of the process(clearly control freak).
Maybe when brewpi get their shit together. Edit end of this year which means middle of next  :(
Interesting discussion on Jims recently where a significant number of braumeisters were bought by old hands but they miss the fettling and some have sold them to start again ???.

@shanna see where that arrow is pointing on that chugger thats where you put your oil.

Keep posting!
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 01:50:09 PM
Mash and sparge complete. The boil just hit rolling as the last of the sparge water came into the BK - about 40-50mins overall. Coming in at about 75% efficiency, mostly due to having too small a mash bag so there's channeling along the sides. Replacement is already winging it's way over.

MT gets a quick rince and is kept connected for the full cleaning cycle later. I run the pump to the sink to pump out the last of the cleaning water as well.
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 01:54:35 PM
Since the boil has started and I again have nothing to do, I get the cooling and cleaning cycle connections all done at this point.  Plate chiller goes inline and the water out goes to the MT. Always need to remember to stop before the MT is full, otherwise it gets messy :)

The earlier connections for the HERMS are still in place, so for cleaning, I'll be pumping clean water from the MT, through the HERMS, into the Whirlpool arm of the BK and then out to the sink from the BK-OUT. It looks like a bit of a maze, but it's prety simple when it's running and means everything gets a really good rince with about 50L of hot water.

Now I just get to stare at the ArdBir while it does it's thing. It's set to beep for each of my hop additions, so I just watch a tv show in the other room while it works away.
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 01:58:58 PM
Quote from: CH on July 27, 2016, 01:16:19 PM
Love when folks post their brewdays
I'm such a lazy bastard I just mill straight into MT now ;)
One essential piece of kit there I need to get, croissant, group buy anyone?

I am so fighting the will to automate my herms brewing like Nigel and you with a box, I still like the steam engine fiddling approach which does give me 100% temp control accuracy, just feel like I'm more in control of the process(clearly control freak).
Maybe when brewpi get their shit together.
Interesting discussion on Jims recently where a significant number of braumeisters were bought by old hands but they miss the fettling and some have sold them to start again ???.

@shanna see where that arrow is pointing on that chugger thats where you put your oil.

Keep posting!
Yeah it's taken me a lot of time to come up with a quick and easy system for using the new kit. There's a lot of fiddling with plumbing which keeps it's entertaining, but I can also walk away and ignore it for a few hours, which is great if I want to brew and get something done.
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 03:03:16 PM
Almost had an overflow with the cleaning water. Every single time I manage to forget to shut off the flow. Lucky this time though.
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 04:24:53 PM
Filling the fermenter. Ground water is quite warm at the moment, but managed to get it down to 19.3 after 30 minutes. Put some ice in the container around the plate chiller to help it a bit. Quick blast of O2, pitched the yeast and threw it into the fermentation fridge for it's 2 week workout :)

Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 04:28:52 PM
The sample is exactly what I was aiming for with the colour. Really nice rich red hue from the pale chocolate malt. Last time I tried this recipe was for the Wicklow american ale competition and it came out a nasty murky brown instead that time.

You can see I pump all the break into the fermenter as well :D
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 04:32:11 PM
Alas cleanup has to be done. I do everything in place, so the BK-OUT is redirected to the sink and I pump in water from the MT, via the HERMS coil. Throw in some W5 and the whirlpool arm mixes it. Some elbow-grease after letting it sit for about 20 mins and it's clean as a whistle, followed by 3 rinses. Using the 2 pumps means I can control the in and out flow all from the BK, so I can just stand there and work away until I'm happy it's clean.

That's it - brewday complete, from start to finish in about 6 hours. If I get the grain and water ready the night before, it can be done in about 4.5 hours, or less if I'm not using a whirlpool addition or brewing in the summer, when chilling takes ages.

Hope you enjoyed :)
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: Shanna on July 27, 2016, 04:49:44 PM
Quote from: CH on July 27, 2016, 01:16:19 PM
Love when folks post their brewdays
I'm such a lazy bastard I just mill straight into MT now ;)
One essential piece of kit there I need to get, croissant, group buy anyone?

I am so fighting the will to automate my herms brewing like Nigel and you with a box, I still like the steam engine fiddling approach which does give me 100% temp control accuracy, just feel like I'm more in control of the process(clearly control freak).
Maybe when brewpi get their shit together. Edit end of this year which means middle of next  :(
Interesting discussion on Jims recently where a significant number of braumeisters were bought by old hands but they miss the fettling and some have sold them to start again ???.

@shanna see where that arrow is pointing on that chugger thats where you put your oil.

Keep posting!
Thanks CH :)
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: Shanna on July 27, 2016, 04:52:44 PM
Colm trying to understand why you have some many 1/2" taps. If you got a spare moment would really love if you could take a photo of all three vessels completely hooked and explain what each is doing along with pictures of inside so I can see what the returns looks like :)

Shanna
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: Leann ull on July 27, 2016, 05:00:18 PM
tap envy?
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,10108.120.html

Molc does herms in his HLT rather than the extra pot like the rest of us  :P

Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: Shanna on July 27, 2016, 05:15:45 PM
Quote from: CH on July 27, 2016, 05:00:18 PM
tap envy?
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php/topic,10108.120.html
hehehehe, funny thing is I have loads of stainless steel taps in my shed, just nothing to attached them to :)

Shanna
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 06:00:50 PM
Quote from: Shanna on July 27, 2016, 04:52:44 PM
Colm trying to understand why you have some many 1/2" taps. If you got a spare moment would really love if you could take a photo of all three vessels completely hooked and explain what each is doing along with pictures of inside so I can see what the returns looks like :)

Shanna
Each of the pics in this thread is "trying" to explain what each is doing. I'm going to do up diagrams of each stage now that I have it written down, so I have my own little manual during a brewday and don't forget. It was part of the reason for this post in fact!

As for why there are so many taps, mostly it's liquid flow control. When the vessel is full, it stops them leaking everywhere. Also, I never empty my herms coil, since bugs love to have damp surfaces to grow. To keep it wet, there are taps on the IN and OUT.

Every vessel has an IN connection at the top and an OUT connection at the bottom. All OUT's are connected to center diptubes for convenience.

Summary of taps:
BK
- BK-OUT, BK-WHIRLPOOL-IN
MT
- MT-OUT (MT-IN at the top should have one as well, but I'm short a tap and camlock)
HLT
- HLT-OUT, HLT-HERMS-IN, HLT-HERMS-OUT. HLT-IN could technically have one as well, but I never overfill the HLT.

Pics Incoming in the next few posts.
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 06:10:47 PM
HLT. Excuse the upside down tap - I need to put more PTFE tape on it but too lazy to empty the herms coil :) The top IN has a small 90 degree fitting and some 1/2 silicon tubing to direct the flow into the vessel.

The temp sensor on the HERMS-OUT is what I use to control the mash.
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 06:12:16 PM
MT, complete with my custom false bottom. Usually this has a bag in there to make cleaning easier, so the big hole isn't an issue. There's a temp sensor on the OUT, but I don't usually use it.
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on July 27, 2016, 06:13:17 PM
BK - Complete with hop spider - I've done upto 300g of hops in that and it's worked perfectly. It usually sits over the second element on the left, so the turbelent wort is pushed through it. At least, that's the theory in my head!

There's also a temp sensor that I just drape inside during the boil - I should fit a thermowell for this, but again, being lazy. Nigel has even given me a well to install, so I'll get it done someday.
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: Ashbless on September 09, 2016, 02:55:36 PM
Hi - Could you tell me what the mobile extractor fan thing is? I def need something like that!
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on September 09, 2016, 04:27:50 PM
All the info should he linked from here; http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/index.php?topic=10108.msg138693.msg#138693
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: Ashbless on September 11, 2016, 07:10:50 PM
Much obliged! I like your setup - I think I'll have to get a hop spider and mash bag as well - be nice to be able to CIP rather than lugging heavy vessels outside at the end of brewing for cleaning...
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: Motorbikeman on September 11, 2016, 07:26:02 PM
Molc, do you find your bittering hops are getting properly boiled with that hop spider?   

I find my hop spider gets gunged up and blocked a bit.     Beer less bitter than I expected.. 
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on September 11, 2016, 07:52:57 PM
Haven't noticed a drop in bitterness and I've done about 350g with it for a double ipa. I stir the hops in the spider a few times on the boil just to clear the funk buildup as well.
One other thing is I first wort hop all my beers. Can't say if that makes a difference, but just stating for completeness.
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: Pheeel on September 12, 2016, 11:57:56 AM
Quote from: molc on September 11, 2016, 07:52:57 PM
Haven't noticed a drop in bitterness and I've done about 350g with it for a double ipa. I stir the hops in the spider a few times on the boil just to clear the funk buildup as well.
One other thing is I first wort hop all my beers. Can't say if that makes a difference, but just stating for completeness.

I use a hop spider and no problems with bitterness
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: Will_D on September 12, 2016, 09:46:47 PM
Quote from: Pheeel on September 12, 2016, 11:57:56 AM
I use a hop spider and no problems with bitterness
Well James used a few dead spiders and ended up with:

"Spider Beer, Spider Beer, Noone else makes Spider Beer"

O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Brewday - In pictures!
Post by: molc on September 13, 2016, 08:40:45 AM
Hrhehe