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Title: Substitute for Victory malt in a Cal Common
Post by: Simon_ on August 05, 2016, 02:23:17 PM
Every Cal Common recipe I come across lists Victory (http://hbd.org/brewery/library/Malt101.html) which is supposed to similar to Biscuit malt i.e. a toasted or roasted malt. I don't have either biscuit or Victory.

What would be the best substitute in a Cal Common? I have Roasted / Amber and a load of other specialty malts that could be suitable.

Going with something similar to this recipe (http://www.alternativecommutepueblo.com/2009/09/2015-cal-common.html) and I'm trying out Mangrove Jack's California Lager yeast
Title: Re: Substitute for Victory malt in a Cal Common
Post by: Pheeel on August 05, 2016, 03:12:08 PM
Melanoidin would be close enough to Victory
Title: Re: Substitute for Victory malt in a Cal Common
Post by: nigel_c on August 05, 2016, 03:17:45 PM
I've seen biscuit malt subbed in.
Title: Re: Substitute for Victory malt in a Cal Common
Post by: Simon_ on August 05, 2016, 03:20:31 PM
I don't have Biscuit or Melanoidin unfortunately
Title: Re: Substitute for Victory malt in a Cal Common
Post by: sub82 on August 05, 2016, 03:47:58 PM
Cara Aroma would also add to the maltiness.
Title: Re: Substitute for Victory malt in a Cal Common
Post by: nigel_c on August 05, 2016, 04:35:46 PM
Quote from: Simon_ on August 05, 2016, 03:20:31 PM
I don't have Biscuit or Melanoidin unfortunately

I'll have a look and let you know.
Title: Re: Substitute for Victory malt in a Cal Common
Post by: molc on August 05, 2016, 05:43:10 PM
Yeah biscuit us the closest in flavour that we have here. Maris Otter as the base may give the same effect or just use some Munich to give the bigger malt backbone. Our pale malt has more flavour than American 2 row, so you're probably not going to miss a lot.

Also use 2 packs of yeast. The mangrove jack packs have a low cell count.

Title: Re: Substitute for Victory malt in a Cal Common
Post by: Shanna on August 06, 2016, 09:14:46 AM
Quote from: molc on August 05, 2016, 05:43:10 PM
Yeah biscuit us the closest in flavour that we have here. Maris Otter as the base may give the same effect or just use some Munich to give the bigger malt backbone. Our pale malt has more flavour than American 2 row, so you're probably not going to miss a lot.

Also use 2 packs of yeast. The mangrove jack packs have a low cell count.
Hydrate them about 45 minutes in advance also to give you a better rate of active yeast from your two packs.

Shanna
Title: Re: Substitute for Victory malt in a Cal Common
Post by: SkiBeagle on August 06, 2016, 11:04:24 AM
Handy grain subs chart.
Title: Re: Substitute for Victory malt in a Cal Common
Post by: Simon_ on January 04, 2017, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: SkiBeagle on August 06, 2016, 11:04:24 AM
Handy grain subs chart.
Only seeing this now. Very useful. Thanks