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Title: Quiz time
Post by: Spud395 on November 11, 2012, 12:27:36 PM
Time to rack your brains, thought this might be a fun game to play.

Why in industrial conical FV's does top cropping ale yeast drop to the bottom instead of the top?

10 points for the 1st right answer
Title: Re: Quiz time
Post by: Eoin on November 11, 2012, 12:30:07 PM
Some yeast will always drop even in a top cropper, won't it?
Title: Re: Quiz time
Post by: Spud395 on November 11, 2012, 12:32:19 PM
It will indeed but there is a very good reason for all of it to drop in big Conical FV's.

Big breweries also use this fact to allow them ferment at higher temps
Title: Re: Quiz time
Post by: Spud395 on November 11, 2012, 01:43:41 PM
Getting there, in these vessels the yeast doesnt rise and for a yeast head, why?
Title: Re: Quiz time
Post by: DEMPSEY on November 11, 2012, 02:03:53 PM
Is it because of the pressure of the volume of liquid in a large vessel. :-/
Title: Re: Quiz time
Post by: Spud395 on November 11, 2012, 02:14:02 PM
Both right  ;D

The pressure also suppress the production of fusels and esters which allow them ferment at higher temps, speeding up the process even more.


I thought it was interesting anyway ;)
Title: Re: Quiz time
Post by: DEMPSEY on November 11, 2012, 02:16:58 PM
Good idea this kind of quiz. Helps to put brewing knowledge out there because it makes you search for a answer either in your head :-? or on google :).
Title: Re: Quiz time
Post by: Spud395 on November 11, 2012, 02:25:23 PM
Yeah I just came across this fact this morning and was fascinated.
Now I'm wondering does this have some connection with why mass produced beers give me way more of a hangover than micro or my own?
Title: Re: Quiz time
Post by: Stitch on November 11, 2012, 02:47:03 PM
Is the hand over not down to the fact that the big brewers remove yeast by filtration. A hang over is a lack of vitamin B which yeast is a natural source of???

BTW very interesting question on the quiz :) Could this be made a feature of the main page??
Title: Re: Quiz time
Post by: Spud395 on November 11, 2012, 05:16:12 PM
Instict says it's more to do with temperature than yeast strain.

If you were to ferment with lager yeast at ale temps you'd get a yeast head the same as an ale yeast because of the more vigorous co2 production?
Title: Re: Quiz time
Post by: Spud395 on November 11, 2012, 05:19:21 PM
QuoteIs the hand over not down to the fact that the big brewers remove yeast by filtration. A hang over is a lack of vitamin B which yeast is a natural source of???

BTW very interesting question on the quiz :) Could this be made a feature of the main page??
Far as I know no one has pinned down what causes a hangover, vitamins being one theory
Title: Re: Quiz time
Post by: Spud395 on November 11, 2012, 07:53:12 PM
Ok I ay have done a little reading on this  :-[
But from what I can make out ale yeasts become hydrophobic as fermentation draws to an end, am I heading in the right direction?