National Homebrew Club Ireland

Hey,

I'm upgrading my kegerator from 1 to two taps, at the minute I have a Chinese one tap tower similar to this

(http://www.dhresource.com/260x260s/f2-albu-g3-M01-E0-8F-rBVaHFagUWiAPC5tAABewQRL3ys037.jpg/one-tap-chromeplated-beer-tower-single-tap.jpg)

after a year it's been great but I want something with a little more control and preferably fully stainless.

I came across these intertaps (http://www.kegkingdom.co.uk/collections/faucets/products/intertap-flow-control-stainless-steel?variant=19377622979) and they look the business but they are out of stock and wont be back in until the end of the month (hoping the euro stays strong)

What is everyone using? any recommendations?

Perlick 600 series forward sealing flow control for me. They're fantastic taps

The intertaps look to be a clone of those boys

Check out this store.  They stock intertaps.  Check out other forums about why these taps are being sold on Ali.
I have seen these taps and they are excellent quality, one of the lads in work got them.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1850830?spm=2114.10010108.0.0.ciYV3m

Why are they?

Was in a rush, apparently copyright or patent or something like that, ''tis all on the inter web somewhere

I'm the work friend in question. Haven't tried the taps yet but they look the part anyway. Here's the forum post I saw about how you'll find Intertap taps on Ali. The vendor linked seems to carry a lot of proper Keg King gear.

QuoteOriginally Posted by Turb
I contacted Keg King directly to see if there was any way around not having a US distributor and this is the response I recieved...

Hi Douglas,
We currently can't sell the Intertaps in the US due to a patent dispute. We currently sell the Intertap taps in Australia and they are also being sold from Keg King Shanghai Distribution center. Neither of these locations are governed by any active patents on forward sealing taps that Bradford G. Amidzich owns.

We did contact Brad last week regarding this and also have him specific information showing several forward sealing models that have been sold in Australia dating back as far as the 1940s. These other forward sealing models that have been sold in Australia clearly show that Brad's Ventmatic taps were not the first forward sealing designs and also we have reason to believe that his patents in America can be invalidated based on this information. If a thorough enough prior arts search been carried out it would have revealed these common forward sealing models in Australia and the patent would not have been granted in the first place. With that said he still does have an active patent granted by the USPTO so it will take at least several months if not more than a year to get these patents invalidated if we do go down this path.

We have also voice another option to not invalidate the patent and simply pay a royalty in America however we have not heard back from Brad regarding this so we can only assume that he is not going to entertain this as an option.

If we do not hear from Brad in a reasonable amount of time we will commence legal action to have his patents invalidated.
Cheers,

Aran Burns
Customer Service Manager
Keg King – Keg Dispense Specialists

Looks like we are out of luck for now

TY
I've just bought a few to try out for use straight off the cornies with the adapter, I'll post how they go.

Do you have the flow control BrewDorg?

Looks decent build quality and could be ideal for growlers with the adapter

I got a hop-spider on Ali a couple of months back and was really surprised to see it branded as Keg King as well.

Quote from: Acott on October 10, 2016, 08:38:27 PM
Do you have the flow control BrewDorg?

Looks decent build quality and could be ideal for growlers with the adapter

Yep bought 2 flow controls and the growler attachment. The stout faucet looks great too if you want to that route. I got 4 disconnects from that vendor too and they were all Keg King.

Nice one, I ordered two as well as the growler filler

Quote from: darren996 on October 10, 2016, 03:58:49 PM
Check out this store.  They stock intertaps.  Check out other forums about why these taps are being sold on Ali.
I have seen these taps and they are excellent quality, one of the lads in work got them.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1850830?spm=2114.10010108.0.0.ciYV3m

Do you have a link to these discussions?

@cruiscinlan I posted a quote above. Got the info from this (long) hbt thread - http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=567485

Sorry bud, was on mobile and couldn't see it.  Ta very much.

Quote from: cruiscinlan on October 11, 2016, 11:25:58 AM
Sorry bud, was on mobile and couldn't see it.  Ta very much.

No hassle. I went through more less the entire thread when I started my tap search and picked up some useful info there. As you'd expect though, there's a lot of arguing

I lost the will to live after page 35, as a "consultant on that thread" :D what was the discussion about the springs? I understand the intertaps don't spring back?, did you buy any or did you need to?

Quote from: CH on October 11, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
I lost the will to live after page 35, as a "consultant on that thread" :D what was the discussion about the springs? I understand the intertaps don't spring back?, did you buy any or did you need to?

That title is the least I deserve after trawling through it :D That Ali shop sells Intertap specific springs too (https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/High-quality-INTERTAP-AUTO-CLOSE-SPRING/1850830_1000000980438.html) (a ripoff though at €0.87  :P ). The springs only work on the non-flow control taps. The ball that moves in and out for flow control stops the spring from working properly, but the regular taps will work fine with the spring. Bit of a pain, but worth it for the flow control.

Would there be much of a difference between the Intertap:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/High-quality-Stainless-Steel-INTERTAP-FC-TAP-ONLY-FLOW-CONTROL-Black-tap-handle-as-gift-home/1850830_1000001060668.html

and their regular flow-control tap:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Flow-Restrictor-Draft-Tap-Beer-Tap-Faucet-Kegging-Equipment/1850830_32351577433.html

Quote from: cruiscinlan on October 11, 2016, 01:32:19 PM
Would there be much of a difference between the Intertap:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/High-quality-Stainless-Steel-INTERTAP-FC-TAP-ONLY-FLOW-CONTROL-Black-tap-handle-as-gift-home/1850830_1000001060668.html

and their regular flow-control tap:

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Flow-Restrictor-Draft-Tap-Beer-Tap-Faucet-Kegging-Equipment/1850830_32351577433.html

I think the option to have the stout faucet and growler filler is nice, also the intertap is forward sealing and stainless steel, not sure about the standard tap

Forward sealing would be the biggest advantage. The Intertaps have gotten some great reviews too, not so sure the regular ones linked would be any better quality than other regular taps you get on Ali or elsewhere.

Yeah the regular ones look like a copy of the celli flow control tap, and I hate mine. It's been demoted to my portable dispensing setup, as I have to disassemble it every time it's used, the forward sealing work much better and don't require as much disassembling.

Quote from: BrewDorg on October 11, 2016, 12:54:56 PM

Quote from: CH on October 11, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
I lost the will to live after page 35, as a "consultant on that thread" :D what was the discussion about the springs? I understand the intertaps don't spring back?, did you buy any or did you need to?

That title is the least I deserve after trawling through it :D That Ali shop sells Intertap specific springs too (https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/High-quality-INTERTAP-AUTO-CLOSE-SPRING/1850830_1000000980438.html) (a ripoff though at €0.87  :P ). The springs only work on the non-flow control taps. The ball that moves in and out for flow control stops the spring from working properly, but the regular taps will work fine with the spring. Bit of a pain, but worth it for the flow control.

cheers

Just getting into kegging myself and am wondering What the advantage of these taps over say the standard pub taps is

Neater, can get more into confined space, flow control not always on bar taps, they don't have Heineken written on the tap.
"Cunningham's Law"
If you have good access to bar taps go down that road.

Thanks CH.

Ordered intertap stout adapter start of Jan and the fecker only arrived today Ali

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