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Brewing Discussions => Equipment & Chemicals => Topic started by: Acott on October 18, 2016, 08:21:36 AM

Title: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: Acott on October 18, 2016, 08:21:36 AM
http://www.oktoberdesign.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QM8-qBoIbk
Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: pob on October 18, 2016, 08:47:40 AM
 ;) Dear Santa, I've been a very good boy this year ...

I want, I want, I want, ...

Apart from not StarSanning the lid that was sitting on the shelf, brill!!

I can see new regs for the Nationals; 2 x beers to be packed in 500ml cans only.
Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: LordEoin on October 18, 2016, 08:59:09 AM
$1500 for th emachine and ~30cent a can is a bit steep IMO.
and LOL they sell the lidl calipers for $25 :D
Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: Leann ull on October 18, 2016, 09:43:47 AM
For a club or a bar that's doable or the Pegas system for filling bottles, at indyman they had a canning line so you rock up to a stand with your can fill it and return to the line to have it sealed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA8NvBnQ6QM
Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: Acott on October 18, 2016, 11:10:54 AM
I'm not an engineer, but would it be hard to replicate it?

I'm thinking, most of it is manual, bar the spinning can as this is run by a motor, the crimping and sealing is done by hand...

My beautiful drawing...

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24502376/Canner.jpg)

Perhaps a drill as a motor :)
Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: LordEoin on October 18, 2016, 11:25:39 AM
it'd probably be easier and cheaper to modify a food can sealer like one of these:
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/can-sealer (http://www.ebay.com/bhp/can-sealer)
Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: aweisse on October 18, 2016, 06:32:19 PM
Its a drill press with a seamer attachment.
Like this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjI_JbsjoQ0

Next problem would be to source cans ?
Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: bigvalen on October 18, 2016, 09:24:26 PM
http://www.craftcanning.ie/ anyone dealt with them? Wonder could they come to a club meet up

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Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: Acott on October 18, 2016, 10:48:15 PM
Quote from: aweisse on October 18, 2016, 06:32:19 PM
Its a drill press with a seamer attachment.
Like this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjI_JbsjoQ0

Next problem would be to source cans ?

Wow, so it is! So basically invent an arm to go on a bench drill  :)
Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: aweisse on October 18, 2016, 11:43:15 PM
Quote from: bigvalen on October 18, 2016, 09:24:26 PM
http://www.craftcanning.ie/ anyone dealt with them? Wonder could they come to a club meet up

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Are they the Can in the van people. they have a van set up with a canning equipment in the back.
Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: bigvalen on October 19, 2016, 01:44:17 AM
Yeah. I gave them a shout earlier...they will have something to offer homebrewers "in a few weeks". Might be an idea for club meet ups ... do a canning day, with swapping.

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Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: DEMPSEY on October 19, 2016, 02:57:03 AM
The tricky part is not the sealing of a lid to the can but getting a gassed up beer filled to the brim of the can with no oxygen pick and no foam as you fill the can.
Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: Pheeel on October 19, 2016, 07:04:46 PM
Quote from: bigvalen on October 19, 2016, 01:44:17 AM
Yeah. I gave them a shout earlier...they will have something to offer homebrewers "in a few weeks". Might be an idea for club meet ups ... do a canning day, with swapping.

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Mmm wonder what the cost of that would be... It'd be class to give family some cans for Christmas!
Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: bigvalen on October 19, 2016, 08:54:36 PM
I think the price to the microbreweries was 50c a can.

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Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: LordEoin on December 12, 2016, 08:06:19 AM
I'll just leave this here:
https://www.donedeal.ie/cateringfittings-for-sale/can-closing-machine/13534338 (https://www.donedeal.ie/cateringfittings-for-sale/can-closing-machine/13534338)
Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: DEMPSEY on December 12, 2016, 07:49:14 PM
Add is gone
Title: Re: I don't need it...but I want it...Canseamer
Post by: LordEoin on December 12, 2016, 07:52:18 PM
that was quick