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Title: Recipe question
Post by: Motorbikeman on December 08, 2016, 12:35:17 PM
Stuff I have laying around. 

I have 5kg of pale malt  5kg of wheat and a 100g of old cascade

i was thinking 50/50 with the malts

But not sure about the hop schedule for an american wheat.     How should I hop it?   

Title: Re: Recipe quetion
Post by: DEMPSEY on December 08, 2016, 01:03:29 PM
Needs more hops. Use 0.5 kg of wheat with the 5 kg of hops and get some saaz hops and maybe centennial hops and do a great APA
Title: Re: Recipe quetion
Post by: Parky on December 08, 2016, 01:04:23 PM
Goose Island wheat beer is a pretty solid Am. Wheat - see info about the grist and hopping in the discussion below (not a 50/50 split, but may give you some ideas  ;) ).


http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=86129 (http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=86129)


As you prob already know, a wheat will require minimal bittering (15-30 IBUs), and also a light hand with the flavor/aroma hops, as you'll want the bready maltiness to come through too. So not sure you'll get to use all those hops this time around if brewing a wheat.
Title: Re: Recipe quetion
Post by: irish_goat on December 08, 2016, 01:56:17 PM
Quote from: Parky on December 08, 2016, 01:04:23 PMAs you prob already know, a wheat will require minimal bittering (15-30 IBUs), and also a light hand with the flavor/aroma hops, as you'll want the bready maltiness to come through too. So not sure you'll get to use all those hops this time around if brewing a wheat.

Hopfenweisse is a lovely style as well though.  :)
Title: Re: Recipe quetion
Post by: Parky on December 08, 2016, 02:54:49 PM
QuoteHopfenweisse is a lovely style as well though.


Good call - I'm just getting a bit too BJCP-centric in my old age  :D
Title: Re: Recipe quetion
Post by: Motorbikeman on December 08, 2016, 04:21:53 PM
Oh im not to worried about being accurate about style,  just wondering if an american hop would work at all..    Or would it just taste weird and not nice. 

Going to use either us-05 or notty as they are also laying around.    Maybe ferment in the low 20s
Title: Re: Recipe quetion
Post by: irish_goat on December 08, 2016, 04:44:11 PM
Rye River have an American hopped wheat beer in Lidl at the minute if you can get your hands on it and have a taste. https://thebeernut.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/bang-for-your-buck.html
Title: Re: Recipe quetion
Post by: garciaBernal on December 08, 2016, 05:05:20 PM
It worked for Tonsmeire here  http://www.themadfermentationist.com/2012/12/hoppy-american-wheat-3-tasting.html
Brewing one myself this evening too with a lot of late Citra, Centennial, Nelson Sauvin, Zeus and fermented out with Brett 648! 50% wheat and Pils.
Check out Little Sumpin clone. American Wheat from Lagunitas with a ton of late citrus hops.
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrew-recipe/lagunitas-little-sumpin-sumpin-clone/
Title: Re: Recipe quetion
Post by: Motorbikeman on December 10, 2016, 12:34:41 PM
This is the plan for the Sunday morn.

The hops are 2015 harvest.    How do I know how much to add due to their age?


Ingredients:
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BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Wheat beer
Brewer:
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Wheat Beer
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 30.35 l
Post Boil Volume: 26.35 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 23.00 l   
Bottling Volume: 22.00 l
Estimated OG: 1.048 SG
Estimated Color: 5.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 20.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 80.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 88.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
0.25 kg               Barley Hulls (0.0 SRM)                   Adjunct       1        5.3 %         
2.00 kg               Hook Head Irish Pale Malt (5.0 SRM)      Grain         2        42.1 %       
2.00 kg               Wheat Malt, Ger (3.0 SRM)                Grain         3        42.1 %       
0.50 kg               Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM)                    Grain         4        10.5 %       
12.00 g               Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min         Hop           5        6.6 IBUs     
29.00 g               Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 30.0 min         Hop           6        12.2 IBUs     
11.00 g               Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min          Hop           7        1.2 IBUs     
10.00 g               Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 0.0 min          Hop           8        0.0 IBUs     
1.0 pkg               Safale American  (DCL/Fermentis #US-05)  Yeast         9        -             


Mash Schedule: Temperature Mash, 1 Step, Medium Body BULLDOG
Total Grain Weight: 4.75 kg
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Name              Description                              Step Temperat Step Time           
Saccharification  Add 17.58 l of water and heat to 66.7 C  66.7 C        60 min               
Mash Out          Heat to 75.6 C over 10 min               75.6 C        10 min               

Sparge: Fly sparge with 17.54 l water at 75.6 C
Notes:
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Created with BeerSmith 2 - http://www.beersmith.com
Title: Recipe quetion
Post by: Leann ull on December 10, 2016, 01:16:05 PM
Beersmith has an ageing tool
Really important you get that right cascade falls like a stone even in optimum storage conditions
Barley hulls? Oak husks yeah? , give em a rinse before use
Title: Re: Recipe quetion
Post by: nigel_c on December 10, 2016, 01:43:30 PM
I'd up the 60 addition and move whats left of the 30 down to 10 or 15.
You will get more aromatics out of it because all youll get is bittering for a 30 min addition.
Title: Re: Recipe quetion
Post by: Motorbikeman on December 10, 2016, 02:31:33 PM
Cheers lads.  ..   

Oat husks,   cant find them on the list..    Bulldog brewer needs them IMO.

This is going to be awesome..   ;D ;D


Aging tool on beer smith!!   Nice..    Really useful..

Brings the hops that were 2015   probably about 15 months old from 6.0%  to 4.4%   
Title: Re: Recipe quetion
Post by: Motorbikeman on December 11, 2016, 02:35:26 PM
Additions pushed on.  As suggested.     Cant wait to taste this.   8)
(https://s28.postimg.org/xltwwkgzh/20161211_142654.jpg)
Title: Re: Recipe quetion
Post by: Leann ull on December 11, 2016, 04:12:19 PM