National Homebrew Club Ireland

BJCP Registered, to be judged to the following Criteria

21B. Speciality IPA: New England IPA

Overall Impression
An unfiltered, soft-bodied, American IPA low in bitterness. Showcases the bright flavors and aromas of American or New World hops through its balance, mouthfeel, and yeast character. Drinkability is a key characteristic.

Aroma
A prominent to intense hop aroma typically citrus, tropical fruit, stone fruit, floral, berry, melon; pine and spice are less common but acceptable. Most versions are dry hopped and have an additional resinous or grassy fresh hop aroma, this is desireable but not required. Some clean malty-grainy aroma may be found in the background, generally with no caramel component. Low to medium fruity esters.
A restrained alcohol note may be present, but this should be minimal.

Appearance
Color ranges from gold to light reddish-amber. Medium-sized, white to off-white head with good persistence. Hazy to cloudy, even turbid. Dry hopping contributes to haziness. The high protein content of wheat and/or oats impairs clarity in an unfiltered beer, although the level of haze is somewhat variable. Suspended yeast sediment can contribute to cloudiness.

Flavor
Hop flavor is medium to very high, with American or New World hop characteristics such as citrus, floral, tropical fruit, stone fruit, resinous, berry, melon, etc. Low to medium bitterness, any lingering bitterness should not be harsh. Low to medium-low malt flavor, generally clean or grainy-sweet; caramel or toasty flavors should be minimal. Low to medium yeast character is common, sometimes peach- or apricot-like. Dry to medium-dry finish; low residual sweetness is acceptable.  A light, clean alcohol flavor is not a fault in stronger versions.

Mouthfeel
Medium-light to medium body with medium to medium-high carbonation. No harsh hop-derived astringency. Smooth, with creaminess from wheat and/or slickness from oats. Suspended yeast may increase the perception of body.

Comments
Can range from a smoother, hazier, juicier interpretation of an American IPA to an opaque "fruit smoothie" that might seem more like fresh squeezed juice than beer. When judging, allow for differences in interpretation. May have a pungent, dank hop character usually found only in wet hop beers.

History
Based on Head Topper from The Alchemist, first canned in 2011, which became popular using an English house yeast and extensive late hopping to create its fruity character. Later producers employed a combination of hop flavor-enhancing techniques that together produce the signature haze. Variously referred to as "Vermont IPA" to reflect its origins or "North East IPA" because several prominent early producers are outside of New England in New York. This style continues to evolve.
Characteristic Ingredients
Pale, two-row or Pilsen malts, including British varieties. American or New World hops, especially newer varietals providing distinct characteristics, with a concentration on late and dry-hopping. High-protein malts such as oats or wheat contribute mouthfeel and polyphenols for enhanced hop character. Minimal use of crystal malts, if any. Sugar additions to aid attenuation are acceptable. English yeast strains are estery, medium- to low- attenuating and medium- to low-flocculating. High chloride levels accentuate mouthfeel.

Style Comparison
Cloudier, less bitter, softer and often fruitier than an American IPA. Many modern American IPAs are also hazy and fruity but have a crisp finish and a higher perceived bitterness; these beers should be entered as American IPA.
Entry Instructions
Entrant must specify a strength (session, standard, double); if no strength is specified, standard will be assumed. Entrants may specify specific hop varieties used, if entrants feel that judges may not recognize the varietal characteristics of newer hops.

Vital Statistics
IBUs: 35 - 70
SRM: 4 - 14
OG: 1.045 - 1.085
FG: 1.010 - 1.018
ABV: 4.5% - 10.0%

Commercial Examples
Tree House Julius, Trillium Congress Street, Other Half Green Diamonds, Grimm Tesseract, Great Notion Juice Box, Cloudwater DIPA v3


Details of the Competition

There will be prizes for 1st, 2nd and 3rd places, to be advised at a future date..

Although not compulsory organisers would ask that the recipe and method used is published to benefit others.

Timing
This is a odd situation in that brewing the beer it needs to be as fresh as possible. With the collection closing at the drop points 2 weeks before judging Nationwide I know that doesn't help those trying to bottle condition and so if you attach a "post it" along side the entry form under an elastic band I will make sure its kept at 20 Degrees to ensure its finished conditioning that extra week. It will be put in the cold room at the venue 2 days before judging.
If there is no post it, I will just leave in shed and it will be relabelled a couple of days.   


Maximum 50 entries.

Dropoints: We would kindly ask for the kind support of the Local Club Reps to help us act as drop points. If any club is not in a position to do that can you drop me a pm and we can make alternative arrangements.
Please note its better if you are known to your club to do this, if you have no club pm me and we will see what we can do.
Don't feel precluded just because you live in West Kerry or Donegal. 

Dates
Late March – Registration open
1st May – Entries to drop points deadline strictly enforced, its to allow all entries to be collected
14th May – Judging

Venue : Taproom Wicklow Wolf Brewery (Closed Event by Invitation Only, you really need me to explain why)

As many entries as you like per brewer.

€5 or £5 per entry.

The nasty stuff;
2 x 500ml brown bottles per entry with entry labels attached.
Full NHC Members only, membership valid in judging day to win.
NO MARKINGS NO FLIPTOPS
Entry label only secured to bottle with elastic band, no tape or glue.

1.CH

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2.DEMPSEY

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too

yep, I'm in

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too
4. Damo

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg

Why restrict it to NEIPA? I don't like my beers looking like blended baby crap!!

Eeh I was thinking of my coconut IPA.

Quote from: Pheeel on December 27, 2016, 05:11:23 PM
I don't like my beers looking like blended baby crap!!

been a few years but don't ever recollect blending it, that could be an appearance target

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2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45

Fuck it ... I've never brewed a NEIPA but I'll give it a go   ;)

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2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02

I'm up for it

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny

Guys to add I'm going to try and do National collections so don't feel left out if you are not Dublin Based!
Other point is that probably some stage in May, as most get a taste for comps after the Nationals.

I'd be well up for this.
1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny
11. Cronan

I'd be well up for this.
1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny
11. Cronan
12. Anil

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des

You can put me down for judging...

Cheers

Would this likely be in Bray?

If so I could give a dig-out with stewarding I think.

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles

Do we have any style notes to go on for this beer. :-\

Good question, why don't we all write one for BJCP
Fresh American fruity hops
Murky

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Some good info here:

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/how-to-brew/tips-brewing-new-england-ipa/

Do we have a date for this competition. I have my coconut IPA ready but given that this kind of beer is really young I am thinking of a good baby poop one. ;)

Pressure Pressure, don't want to distract from the Nationals Mr Dempsey
Plan on it being the first two weeks of May, closing date for receipt of entries Last week in April, they will be collected country wide, preferably from Reps.

So needs to be brewed late March to be at its freshest for the comp... Time to get the scheming on.

Thats a bit early ;D ;D ;D

First week in April and bottle conditioned entries wouldn't be carbed. Just saying like :)

No swearing on this thread, bottle conditioning indeed, like orangina they will all be shook before judging  >:D

Would a NE pale ale fix into the competition?

No sorry we would be judging to a style and it wouldn't stand up to IPAs I don't think.
Chuck it in and see

New England IPA judging guidelines just posted in the Nationals Competition thread (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/competitions/2017-national-brewing-championships-16787/135/)...

Quote from: Rosmucman on January 21, 2017, 12:50:22 AM
Would a NE pale ale fix into the competition?

I'd say it would depending on the stats of the beer. The style allows for OG as low as 1.045, and bitterness as low as 35 IBUs. Have to have some serious smack you in the face flavour and aroma though.

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles
15.Rosmucman

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles
15.Rosmucman
16. CClinton48

Guys this is great and appreciated there will be not limit to the number of entries allowed, it would be a big help if you could by your name your local club name or location to help plan collection of bottles cheers lads.

Will this be BJCP registered?

I'd be interested in judging.

Oh they are all hunting for points now
Yes it will be and we would be delighted to have you subject of course to me seeing your exam results of course, joking!!!
I am guessing you are Dublin based as it will be held in Bray.

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny - Capital - Can probably judge
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles
15.Rosmucman
16. CClinton48

Quote from: Johnnycheech on February 02, 2017, 07:22:21 AM
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2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too - NCB
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny - Capital - Can probably judge
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles
15.Rosmucman
16. CClinton48

Style guidelines here (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/competitions/2017-national-brewing-championships-16787/msg165350/#msg165350).

We got some feedback regarding the style guidelines from Gordon.

QuoteHi Thomas,

Sorry for the delay in responding.  This is a good starting point, and the BJCP will likely use it as the basis for a new style writeup.  I've got some people looking at it, and of course we have disagreements about the style.  So this won't be the official BJCP writeup, but I think it's close enough to be used in your competition.  It's certainly better than letting judges each interpret the style on their own.

Thanks for the contribution, and let me know how the judging goes.

Gordon

All credit goes to Richard (SlugTrap), well done! 

Well done Richard

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2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too - NCB
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny - Capital - Can probably judge
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles
15.Rosmucman
16. CClinton48
17. Vermelho/Armedcor collab - Capital

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too - NCB
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny - Capital - Can probably judge
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles
15.Rosmucman
16. CClinton48
17. Vermelho/Armedcor collab - Capital
18. Simon

I'm up for this. I've can't seem to find an example available commercially, so I guess it's time to brew my own anyway!

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too - NCB
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny - Capital - Can probably judge
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles
15.Rosmucman
16. CClinton48
17. Vermelho/Armedcor collab - Capital
18. Simon
19. LordEoin - Rebel Brewers

Quote from: LordEoin on February 02, 2017, 03:08:13 PM
I've can't seem to find an example available commercially

Cloudwater cans are due over here in a few weeks; I'm hoping that solves this problem.

I heard something about Galway Bay brewing some too.

Brewdog just did a collaboration too

I bought a can or two of fourpure juicebox ipa. I don't think it's strictly NEIPA but sounds like it's pretty close.

Whiplash have one on the way. And Yellowbelly have done one but it wasn't widely available.

Tried the Fourpure Juicebox too but didn't seem like any description of a NEIPA I've heard.

Juice box isn't an NEIPA. Just an IPA with orange zest added.

Fair nuff 😂 the description and the low ibu for a ipa made me think otherwise. Will still drink it 😉

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too - NCB
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny - Capital - Can probably judge
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles
15.Rosmucman
16. CClinton48
17. Vermelho/Armedcor collab - Capital
18. Simon
19. LordEoin - Rebel Brewers
20. JawaLemon


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hey lads, any date for this comp yet?

Tbh I'm waiting for the official  Brewcon date announcement but first weekends in May are provisional targets and need to check what other events on as we don't want to clash.

Cool thanks, I'm just looking at my free weekends and trying to work out what to brew, when.

Quote from: LordEoin on February 02, 2017, 03:08:13 PM
I'm up for this. I've can't seem to find an example available commercially, so I guess it's time to brew my own anyway!

I'm hoping to get some cans of various Trillium beers in the next couple of weeks, from a contact coming over from the US, so will give you a shout to pop in and try them.

Quote from: Taf on February 07, 2017, 11:41:56 AM

I'm hoping to get some cans of various Trillium beers in the next couple of weeks, from a contact coming over from the US, so will give you a shout to pop in and try them.

Lucky bastard

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2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too - NCB
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny - Capital - Can probably judge
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles
15.Rosmucman
16. CClinton48
17. Vermelho/Armedcor collab - Capital
18. Simon
19. LordEoin - Rebel Brewers
20. JawaLemon
21. slugtrap - can judge/help organize

In case you're wondering why NEIPAs are hard to find...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/06/dining/craft-breweries-lines-ale.html

I had my first NEIPA over in Bristol at the weekend and it was poor. No head and poor carbonation. :(

Quote from: SlugTrap on February 07, 2017, 05:00:52 PM
In case you're wondering why NEIPAs are hard to find...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/06/dining/craft-breweries-lines-ale.html

I find this waiting over night for beer absolutely bizarre. I couldn't be arsed with that, sure just make it yourself

Quote from: DEMPSEY on February 07, 2017, 05:15:06 PM
I had my first NEIPA over in Bristol at the weekend and it was poor. No head and poor carbonation. :(

Who from?

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2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too - NCB
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny - Capital - Can probably judge
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles
15.Rosmucman
16. CClinton48
17. Vermelho/Armedcor collab - Capital
18. Simon
19. LordEoin - Rebel Brewers
20. JawaLemon
21. slugtrap - can judge/help organize
22. Andrew- just adding myself to the judging panel.

Quote from: LordEoin on February 03, 2017, 03:56:29 PM
I heard something about Galway Bay brewing some too.

I had Hexed from them last weekend which was a quite NE style DIPA, wasn't impressed with it.

Winner should be brewed by them. :D

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2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too - NCB
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny - Capital - Can probably judge
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles
15.Rosmucman
16. CClinton48
17. Vermelho/Armedcor collab - Capital
18. Simon
19. LordEoin - Rebel Brewers
20. JawaLemon
21. slugtrap - can judge/help organize
22. Andrew- just adding myself to the judging panel.
23. Rafal

Ok lads note for Diary 13th May

We will launch entry system after Nationals are over with full details including prizes.

Just two repeat Entries will be collected Nationwide, through club reps if you can, so don't let that stop you.

Nice prizes too

Start getting those hop mules bringing in the green stuff from the US!

Happy ...  Hoppy Days!!!!

Amazing scenes, thanks for the date.

Practise ...

Is that light I see as I look through it :D

Check your screen resolution maybe  :D

Quote from: Taf on February 07, 2017, 11:41:56 AM

Quote from: LordEoin on February 02, 2017, 03:08:13 PM
I'm up for this. I've can't seem to find an example available commercially, so I guess it's time to brew my own anyway!

I'm hoping to get some cans of various Trillium beers in the next couple of weeks, from a contact coming over from the US, so will give you a shout to pop in and try them.

You legend, thank you <3

As if on cue, Cloudwater beers have landed in Dublin.
They've done some of the best and most faithful versions of NEIPA on this side of the Atlantic.

IPA Vic Secret Wai-Iti and DIPA v11 are here; technique + ingredients-wise, they're on point for the style:
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Fresh, too (which matters particularly for NEIPA); Feb 1st canning date on the IPA, Jan 17th for the DIPA.

I'll bring some down tomorrow, but you should get you're own!

Quote from: SlugTrap on February 17, 2017, 06:24:28 PM
As if on cue, Cloudwater beers have landed in Dublin.
They've done some of the best and most faithful versions of NEIPA on this side of the Atlantic.

IPA Vic Secret Wai-Iti and DIPA v11 are here + both have...

• White Labs Burlington Ale Yeast
• Golden Promise malt
• Fruity aroma hops (Mosaic, Vic Secret, and Experimental 431 for the DIPA)
• Oats
• Dextrose

...so, technique- + ingredients-wise, they're on point for the style.

Fresh, too (which matters particularly for NEIPA); Feb 1st canning date on the IPA, Jan 17th for the DIPA.

I'll bring some down tomorrow, but you should get you're own!

Oooh will have to pick up a few (and a sip tomorrow  ;) ). Where in Dublin will supply those?

Quote from: BrewDorg on February 17, 2017, 06:47:49 PM
Oooh will have to pick up a few (and a sip tomorrow  ;) ). Where in Dublin will supply those?

I got mine in drinkstore

Commercial calibration engaged!

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NEIPA today scored 48 so yis will have to score 49 to win this,nah bother :D

Quote from: molc on February 18, 2017, 09:22:20 PM
Commercial calibration engaged!

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I bought the exact same beers today (along with their session IPA). Couldnt believe when I saw these in my local offie (Matson's in Grange, Cork).

48... Jesus...

Picked a few today and what I've tried of them so far really good.
Light bittering Ann late fruit. Not a murky as I was expecting. Really nice beers.
V11 was my personal favourite.

Excellent. I'll pick these up in Grange after work tomorrow. Was there a few left?

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Quote from: molc on February 18, 2017, 10:26:30 PM
48... Jesus...

Exactly!

Who brewed that?

2 points off perfection :o Jaysus

Quote from: Johnnycheech on February 19, 2017, 09:34:42 AM
2 points off perfection :o Jaysus

For a style that's meant to be a fad that's pretty damn good!

someone in the Wee County

Quote from: fishjam45 on February 19, 2017, 09:42:26 AM

Quote from: Johnnycheech on February 19, 2017, 09:34:42 AM
2 points off perfection :o Jaysus

For a style that's meant to be a fad that's pretty damn good!

I thought it was you when I heard it :)

Quote from: DEMPSEY on February 19, 2017, 10:52:27 AM
someone in the Wee County

That'll be our Crónán, savage beer!

Quote from: DEMPSEY on February 19, 2017, 10:53:26 AM

Quote from: fishjam45 on February 19, 2017, 09:42:26 AM

Quote from: Johnnycheech on February 19, 2017, 09:34:42 AM
2 points off perfection :o Jaysus

For a style that's meant to be a fad that's pretty damn good!

I thought it was you when I heard it :)

I wish!
Well done to whoever brewed it ... any chance of a bottle via NHC Express?

Or the hopping list :D

Thanks all, shocked and delighted with the score.
Still have half a keg left which is good.
Since you asked about hops:
In the boil there was Simcoe, Centennial and Mosaic
In the dry hop it was Equinox, Cirta and Mosaic

He will tell you all AFTER the NEIPA comp is over :D. I had thought that we could do a snaky trick of giving his beer a good shake before the judges get it but that would probably help it more to win :D :P

Beautiful mix there. I put equinox and citra into my amber for the dry hop as well - they are amazing together.

Quote from: Joe Cal on February 19, 2017, 09:10:09 AM
Excellent. I'll pick these up in Grange after work tomorrow. Was there a few left?

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Unless they had some in the store I think all the cans are gone - my neighbour bought the last two after me. They should have a few bottles left though, including v11 DIPA.

Spotted kinnegar are bringing out an neipa, it'll be at sltech with bottles to follow. https://twitter.com/KinnegarBrewing/status/833276161320947713

Got 3 each each of these today, picked up from Brewery on Saturday. Looking forward to trying one this evening.

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Quote from: Taf on February 20, 2017, 05:17:05 PM
Got 3 each each of these today, picked up from Brewery on Saturday. Looking forward to trying one this evening.

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Lucky duckie!

If you're in Dublin + care to share, shout at me...

Quote from: SlugTrap on February 20, 2017, 09:29:36 PM

Quote from: Taf on February 20, 2017, 05:17:05 PM
Got 3 each each of these today, picked up from Brewery on Saturday. Looking forward to trying one this evening.

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Lucky duckie!

If you're in Dublin + care to share, shout at me...

Sorry not in Dublin. Will do a bit of sharing with folks local to me, but not too much! The IPA was good, but the double was better.

Unsure if I'll be entering myself but this might be of interest to some of you.....

https://beerandbrewing.com/1Sce4YbB4ooKQS0mc84GYq/article/unlock-the-secrets-of-new-england-style-ipas (https://beerandbrewing.com/1Sce4YbB4ooKQS0mc84GYq/article/unlock-the-secrets-of-new-england-style-ipas)

You know you want to

Just stuck an impromptu effort in the FV. Only had 002 or MG Liberty Bell on hand for it so after some research decided I'd go with the Liberty Bell and see what happens.

Better if the 2 but not the best;)

Did you try it? I couldn't find anything online from people who'd used it. Read conflicting reports of what the liquid equivalent was. Some said wlp051 but some said Thames Valley.

Anyway 35% wheat malt and 15% quick oats and no stuck sparge, thats enough of a win.  ;D

Tried the cloudwater dipa v11 and vic secret wai-iti ipa last night. Wasn't mad on the v11 at all. I made an neipa a few months ago and thought I'd messed up somewhere but it tasted very similar to the v11 so maybe I just don't like the style. The tongue coating chalkiness and thick frothy mouthfeel wasn't for me at all. The vic secret was nicer but I was hoping for a sharper fruitiness from the hops, once again the flavour was duller and thicker than I was expecting. Suppose I'll have to try a few more n see

Think it's called Um Bongo

Having a couple of variations on the theme now. Had Since I've Been Loving You from Whiplash, didn't even finish it. It was just bitter with very little hop flavour. Magic Rock Inhaler "juicy pale ale" now. Decent, loads of grapefruit but nothing you couldn't get without the haze. Now cans off the shelf are never the best way to taste these kind of beers but if you're gonna sell them that way you have to be judged that way. Hope mine comes out better than these. Still not had one yet that makes me think you can't get as good hop flavour from a clearer IPA with a clean yeast.

Quote from: Qs on February 25, 2017, 11:27:05 PM
Now cans off the shelf are never the best way to taste these kind of beers

Heady Topper is sold in cans and it's how most people taste it  8)

Afaik Since I've Been Loving you is a DIPA. The best example of the style that I've had was Cloudwater V6. It was a fruit bomb with the abv completely disguised. Galway Bay's I Love NE wasn't bad.

SIBLY is a double NEIPA according to themselves.

I'd a can of Lupoloid from Beavertown too which while it calls itself an IPA is certainly headed into NEIPA territory, soft, hoppy, not too bitter, very minerally.

My mistake Qs, far too bitter for a NEIPA imo.

Yep. Quite harsh.

Galway Bays NEIPA was nice but probably a bit too bitter and  not cloudy enough to be bang on.

https://beersoakedboy.wordpress.com/2017/03/01/i-dont-want-to-change-the-world-im-not-looking-for-new-england/

Some more hints and tips for those of you interested in this style.

Quote from: garciaBernal on March 03, 2017, 11:11:07 AM
https://beersoakedboy.wordpress.com/2017/03/01/i-dont-want-to-change-the-world-im-not-looking-for-new-england/

Some more hints and tips for those of you interested in this style.

They should take the line from that and write a song with it :P

Got some Dutch courage into me on Saturday and started laying down challenges for this competition to everyone who crossed my path.

???

Feck there is a lot of old NEIPA chit chat on this thread  :P

Update:  Competition is now registered with BJCP,   OP has been updated with more detail

Will act as drop point for Kilkenny and surrounding areas. Which means I'll probably only be looking after my own entries

TY

I'll be a drop for the greater Kildare region if required

Can grab north and south Dublin, not that it's very far from yourselves.

May 14th is my birthday

Quote from: Simon_ on March 08, 2017, 09:09:19 AM
May 14th is my birthday

Sounds like a perfect excuse to go down to the judging to me :) Really looking forward to seeing what homebrewers can do with the style - some great talent out there now making exceptional beers.

my MIL Lives in Bray, so I'm out there all the time, can be a drop point for Dublin North or South (Live north, work south).

You dont want to know how long it took me to figure out MIL and all the other meanings that went though my head first :DD

This is great help lads and all appreciated

Quote from: Simon_ on March 08, 2017, 09:09:19 AM
May 14th is my birthday

We'll give you a wedgie at the competition so!  ;)

Quote from: molc on March 08, 2017, 10:31:25 AM
You dont want to know how long it took me to figure out MIL and all the other meanings that went though my head first :DD

His f key is broken

Quote from: Simon_ on March 08, 2017, 11:00:10 AM

Quote from: molc on March 08, 2017, 10:31:25 AM
You dont want to know how long it took me to figure out MIL and all the other meanings that went though my head first :DD

His f key is broken

:D :D :D

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too - NCB
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny - Capital - Can probably judge
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles
15.Rosmucman
16. CClinton48
17. Vermelho/Armedcor collab - Capital
18. Simon
19. LordEoin - Rebel Brewers
20. JawaLemon
21. slugtrap - can judge/help organize
22. Beerbuddha/Arthuras

Can be drop off for NCB.

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too - NCB
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny - Capital - Can probably judge
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles
15.Rosmucman
16. CClinton48
17. Vermelho/Armedcor collab - Capital
18. Simon
19. LordEoin - Rebel Brewers
20. JawaLemon
21. slugtrap - can judge/help organize
22. Andrew- just adding myself to the judging panel.
23. Rafal
24. Beerbuddha/Arthuras

Think you cut some people off with the last post.

1.CH
2.DEMPSEY
3. Molc - can judge too - NCB
4. Damo
5. BrewDorg
6. fishjam45
7. mick02
8. BigDanny84
9. pob - can judge
10. Johnny - Capital - Can probably judge
11. Cronan
12. Anil
13. Des
14. Bubbles
15.Rosmucman
16. CClinton48
17. Vermelho/Armedcor collab - Capital
18. Simon
19. LordEoin - Rebel Brewers
20. JawaLemon
21. slugtrap - can judge/help organize
22. Andrew- just adding myself to the judging panel.
23. Rafal
24. Beerbuddha/Arthuras
25. MotorbikeMan -  Kildare.. 

Cheers Johnny I didn't spot that.

Lads no need to add any more names we are good at 20 to run it, please enter as many times as you can.
Prizes like all GCB comps are solid and entry system up shortly.
I spose the beauty of this style is you can have 1 core recipe and dry hop 3 or 4 varieties in different fv vessels and better still a good shake of bottle conditioned entries will only benefit the beer

Quote from: CH on March 08, 2017, 11:32:07 PM
Lads no need to add any more names we are good at 20 to run it, please enter as many times as you can.
Prizes like all GCB comps are solid and entry system up shortly.
I spose the beauty of this style is you can have 1 core recipe and dry hop 3 or 4 varieties in different fv vessels and better still a good shake of bottle conditioned entries will only benefit the beer

What do you mean "enter as many times as you can"? Was the comp not limited to 50 entries or has that limit been lifted?

We have 25 interested if each entered 2 or 3 we could accommodate it Mick. A lot of folks put names down and never get to it as well so better to have too many than too few.

Once comp system opened I'll update this thread, like nationals nobody gets left behind!

Quote from: CH on March 08, 2017, 11:42:18 PM
We have 25 interested if each entered 2 or 3 we could accommodate it Mick. A lot of folks put names down and never get to it as well so better to have too many than too few.

Good stuff thanks for the explanation John.
I'll be doing my first attempt this weekend. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out

It's a really odd beer that I've learned to love since the RDS.
Have fun

Yeah shake the bottles with hazy beers is Def a good idea. Should get judges to do the same at the nationals :)

I had a crack at an NEIPA last night. Way undershot my efficiency - got 65% instead of 85% that I do normally.

Then my hop stand was accidentally done at 85 degrees instead of 77 so theoretically I have 100 IBUs in what will be a 4.9% beer.

Just tasted the wort there and its not looking good!

The dry hops should help

My one was kind of amazing and kind of horrible before I cold crashed it. It had the best aroma I've ever smelled and had an amazing hop flavour but that gave way to something really unappealing, now that I've cold crashed it the weird taste has gone but the aroma has followed. Its a smooth, easy drink off the FV now but not very exciting. Hopefully the carbonation  and second round of dry hops lift it again.

I'm not sure if I'll try to make another NEIPA though, its too much hops for a beer I always consider not as nice as a regular American IPA.

Quote from: krockett on March 11, 2017, 12:25:40 PM
I had a crack at an NEIPA last night. Way undershot my efficiency - got 65% instead of 85% that I do normally.

Then my hop stand was accidentally done at 85 degrees instead of 77 so theoretically I have 100 IBUs in what will be a 4.9% beer.

Just tasted the wort there and its not looking good!

What was recipe was there wheat in it?

Think starburst in a glass it should shine and sparkle out at ya

It's a bit early to be brewing for company in May

I wanted something with normal bitterness  - was aiming for 5.7% and 60 IBUs. I'm debating whether its worth potentially wasting more hops on this with the DH. What do you think?

This is how its looking after I correct for actuals.
(http://i66.tinypic.com/20atafd.png)

Do you do whirlpools regularly? I find the ibu calculations with whirlpools to be way off.

Taste it before you chuck em in, need booze in it tho
Next question about Mash efficiency, so temps how did you crush your grain etc

Quote from: Qs on March 11, 2017, 02:26:41 PM
Do you do whirlpools regularly? I find the ibu calculations with whirlpools to be way off.

Up yeah?

Yeah much higher than I perceive in the beer. I don't think those calculations make a lot of sense for a homebrewer with a vol of 20-40L.

There's also a problem with Beersmith IBU calcs when you're adding late hops, i.e. 5 mins, and then doing a hop stand. The software assumes you're chilling after the boil and doesn't add on the IBUs for the 5 min addition that would come from the hop stand, making the true IBU measurement  guess work.

Quote from: CH on March 11, 2017, 02:43:35 PM
Taste it before you chuck em in, need booze in it tho
Next question about Mash efficiency, so temps how did you crush your grain etc

I did taste it this morning - have never tasted anything so bitter, but reading up on it seems like Wort can taste like this before it is fermented. I've put the time into it anyway so reckon I'll dry hop the shit out of it, see if this helps. Will update.

All I can put it down to is my mill - I reset it recently after grinding some Rye so need to go tighter with it. I'm using a Grainfather so no issues with temps etc.

Dry hopping will cut some of that bitterness

Looking for inspiration for the GCB comp?

http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30768

First pic in that article looks horrific

(http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/images/ElectricHopCandy12.jpg)

There are tasty looking NEIPAs, his own nice yellow beer looks good but that looks like a turbid mess. Haze is fine, turbidity is just poor brewing IMO.

Quote from: Qs on March 13, 2017, 10:50:24 AM
Haze is fine, turbidity is just poor brewing IMO.

+1

(http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/images/ElectricHopCandy2_728.jpg)
proof you don't need half the slurry in there

With so many brewers thinking outside the box on this beer methinks that one would need to get outside the box to think but then get outside that box to think again ;),I think ???, but if one does that then how will one know when and even how to get back inside the box let alone find the second box to get back in too as well :-\,I think :'(, P.S. not enough smiley's to choose from :D

(https://media.giphy.com/media/fkGqU07CnrCbC/giphy.gif)

Quote from: CH on March 13, 2017, 08:00:30 AM
Looking for inspiration for the GCB comp?

http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30768

That's a great list of tips in that article.

@krockett, if you're still looking for help (going purely by the numbers in your recipe) you have the high IBU issue that you've identified, but you could - believe it or not - add even more hops.
You've got about 11g/litre of late + dry hops. The recipe in that link and this one (http://www.themadfermentationist.com/2015/06/hop-juice-north-east-ipa-recipe.html) hits 15g, and I've read some going as high as 20g/l.
You'll want as much fruit as you can cram in since your FG is also pretty dry for a NEIPA.

Quote from: Qs on March 13, 2017, 10:50:24 AM
First pic in that article looks horrific

(http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/images/ElectricHopCandy12.jpg)

There are tasty looking NEIPAs, his own nice yellow beer looks good but that looks like a turbid mess. Haze is fine, turbidity is just poor brewing IMO.

I just don't get. Why would you want your beer to look like a hopped starter. You can have a super late hopped beer with big mouthfeel / body without having to drink it through your teeth.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170313/09be8ef7f724211f37b557dbc67837b2.jpg)

Folks additional comment put in OP re timing, collections and for those that are bottle conditioning.

Quote from: CH on March 13, 2017, 02:10:37 PM
Folks additional comment put in OP re timing, collections and for those that are bottle conditioning.

Good stuff, CH.

The option to condition after submission should help ensure fresher beer.

Brewed my first attempt at one of these yesterday. It was bubbling away this morning so I threw in about 150g of hops. Came home this evening to see hops debris everywhere. The blow off tube couldn't handle the pressure! Looking forward to trying this one.

Lads I've had a few kind offers from BJCP judges to help on the day I'll be using the list above.
I'll know a couple of weeks out where we need to be in terms of numbers but your offers are very much appreciated!

I brewed one of these for the first time last week and I found that it was incredibly incredibly bitter when I tasted the sample from the trial jar. Turns out that the bitterness is due to all the hop matter in suspension in the beer.

I crash cooled a sample and tasted the beer once everything had settled out to the bottom and it was perfect. I've seen a few posts by people talking about this bitterness. Hopefully the reason is the same as above.

Just an observation that should help others out.

My first bittering addition for this style is usual 5 mins from flameout

Quote from: CH on March 17, 2017, 09:50:16 AM
My first bittering addition for this style is usual 5 mins from flameout

All my hop additions were at flameout. 20 minute hop stand with additions at flameout and 10 minutes after flameout. First dry hop addition was 12 hours after pitching yeast.

The Yanks have an article up on the importance of oats in this style.

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/how-to-brew/impact-flaked-oats-new-england-ipa/

Had the Kinnegar Big Bunny NEIPA. It was pretty bad and had nothing that you would expect of a NEIPA. It was closer to a lowly hopped IPA. If you see it don't bother with it.

I had O'Hara's "NEIPA" - 51st State last night. Couldn't be further from an example of the style. Again, avoid at all costs. Brewdog/Cloudwater still the best example I've had. As in, it conforms best to the style descriptors.

I honestly think this style is still far too ting for people to know what they are brewing and tasting.

Agree with that. But I was specifically talking about the BJCP guidelines that we have above.

Quote from: Vermelho on March 17, 2017, 10:36:45 AM
Had the Kinnegar Big Bunny NEIPA. It was pretty bad and had nothing that you would expect of a NEIPA. It was closer to a lowly hopped IPA. If you see it don't bother with it.

Couldn't disagree more, I found it to be a great beer and IPA

Quote from: Paul B on March 18, 2017, 02:19:30 PM

Quote from: Vermelho on March 17, 2017, 10:36:45 AM
Had the Kinnegar Big Bunny NEIPA. It was pretty bad and had nothing that you would expect of a NEIPA. It was closer to a lowly hopped IPA. If you see it don't bother with it.

Couldn't disagree more, I found it to be a great beer and IPA

Gotta agree with Vermelho here. Managed to snag a bottle tonight and boy was it disappointing. Better than a lot of Irish IPAs but that isn't saying much. Almost zero hop taste. I've got a second bottle which I'll try tomorrow but so far not impressed.

Quote from: Paul B on March 18, 2017, 02:19:30 PM

Quote from: Vermelho on March 17, 2017, 10:36:45 AM
Had the Kinnegar Big Bunny NEIPA. It was pretty bad and had nothing that you would expect of a NEIPA. It was closer to a lowly hopped IPA. If you see it don't bother with it.

Couldn't disagree more, I found it to be a great beer and IPA

My reference before this was Little Fawn which had about 2 times the hop flavour. Did you get any tropical falvours or aromas off it? Wondering is it the batch?

Yeah loads of hops, I thought it was great. Maybe there is a bad batch going around

Bump; With HB shops getting in Vermont 051 and Burlington, time to start planning guys for a brew in the coming weeks

Glad I did a trial run on this style. I had nothing but hassle with it. Tried to do a pressure transfer from the fermenter to the keg but the disconnect kept getting clogged with hop matter. Ended up just pumping the beer directly into the keg causing lots of foam. Oxidisation is a characteristic for the style right???

Why pressure transfer Mick?
I only ever put a big co2 cover in keg, first 1-200ml out of pipe work gets chucked and then rest into keg under a blanket of co2

I want to minimize the amount of oxygen that gets drawn into the fermenter by the liquid that is flowing out. Maybe overkill but I'm trying to limit the exposure to o2


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I see what your up to alright just telling how lazy men do it
So a question have you purged with co2 the air in the out pipe before you fill?
I had a load of keg jumpers and blow off disconnects at one point now I just purge liquid out with a tap and burp way over what's required, co2 is cheap!

This turned out lovely in the end. Has a bit of a kick to it but no more than an eight degrees IPA.

Way out of style though - 4.9%, 100 theoretical ibus.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170324/3a9bc67a0ee7605aca00cfb2874702fc.jpg)

Quote from: BrewDorg on March 17, 2017, 09:27:09 PM
I had O'Hara's "NEIPA" - 51st State last night. Couldn't be further from an example of the style. Again, avoid at all costs. Brewdog/Cloudwater still the best example I've had. As in, it conforms best to the style descriptors.

I too tried the O'Hara's last night. Without looking at the label, it comes across as an innocuous English IPA.

So I'm planning my beer out,should I use Whirlfloc or not?

God no!

I used whirfloc powder in my first attempt. Still had plenty of haze, even after 2 weeks at keg temperatures. Skipped gelatin though of course.

Quote from: fishjam45 on March 26, 2017, 04:52:24 PM
God no!

aah why did ye tell them :P

Now watch all the judges running to the loo from too much yeast in the day :)

Registration now open (https://gcbrewers.wordpress.com/2017/03/29/registration-garden-county-brewers-ne-ipa-competition/)

Prizes:

• €150 voucher for a hotel break anywhere in country
• €75 One4All voucher.
• €50 One4All voucher.
• More to follow ...

Rules:

• Max 48 beers
• Cost €5 per beer entry.
• Open to members of NHC.
• The competition will be held on Sat 13th May.

How to get your bottles to us?
All NHC clubs are generously acting as collection points for the competition. Please contact them to arrange delivery of your entries to them. Click Here for your local club. (http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/brewing-communities/)

Brilliant - get brewing lads!

Only open to paid members?

Quote from: delzep on March 29, 2017, 10:53:13 PM
Only open to paid members?

good idea imo

Full members are paid Members.

I have a question about the entry form. Will it possible to edit the "hops" section after registration. I know it's not a required field, just wondering.

Yes all entries can be edited.

You will get an email after you enter and if you wish to edit your entry just reply to that email.

Cheers

Looking good. Two quick things for the entry system:

1. Can you list the guidelines for strength. Session, standard and double are a little vague. I'm sure you're following BJCP norms, but will help peps when selected the option.

2. The labels aren't sent out currently, just in case you're not aware.

Best of luck with the comp - looks like it's going to be a great day out!

Yeah I have questions about what a session NE IPA is as well.
The style guidelines attached to the comp say
OG: 1.045 - 1.085
ABV: 4.5% - 10.0%

Generally the BJCP guideline say
session-strength <4% ABV
If the BJCP guidelines define what a session IPA is I can't find it

Quote from: fishjam45 on March 30, 2017, 11:35:37 AM
Yes all entries can be edited.

You will get an email after you enter and if you wish to edit your entry just reply to that email.

You can now go back into any new entry & edit it.
(up to this morning, get in touch as above)

Quote from: molc on March 30, 2017, 12:01:02 PM
1. Can you list the guidelines for strength. Session, standard and double are a little vague. I'm sure you're following BJCP norms, but will help peps when selected the option.

Basing it on the IPA ABV range (now updated on entry form):

Session     < 5.5%
Standard   5.5% - 7.5%
Double      > 7.5%

This is mainly for us in organising the judging flights, we don't want judges to be judging a 8% first, followed by a 4%.

Quote from: molc on March 30, 2017, 12:01:02 PM
2. The labels aren't sent out currently, just in case you're not aware.

Entries up to today will get them shortly (tonight?), hopefully have them automated by end of today.

(only use the Google Form a couple of times a year, need to remember to switch on the Form Response to include the label ;))

Great stuff, thanks Peter.

Another commercial example now on Irish shelves:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8RqcYvXsAAi-1n.jpg)

Simcoe, Amarillo, Mosaic, + HBC 344
20 IBUs
Oats
No mention of the yeast, but it is a Cloudwater collab, so something English is definitely possible...

Had the same myself on Saturday Night.
Nice drop, but there will be better than that in the competition.

Brewed for this competition on Saturday.

Looking forward to it now.

just looking for drop date/ drop point?

Once again I'll say, if anyone in Dublin has entries I do be in Bray fairly regularly, so can take bottles (I can't store many entries in a fridge for anything more than a day or two though)

Clubs are local drop points for the competition.

Drop off closes on Mon 1st May.

So the homebrewcompany sold out of flaked wheat this week. The plot thickens... >:D

Conspiracies everywhere  :P

Brewed my 2nd entry yesterday. Too soon  8)

I was planning on brewing mine tomorrow,delivery never showed :-(

:( that sucks, hopefully it gets sorted soon.

I'm brewing one tomorrow hopefully it will be ready. I've never planned so many hops in a recipe.  ???

Hope everyones brews are done or nearly done for the comp, cutting it fine now.

It's fermenting still. Going to be fresh!

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Same here, fresh is key.
Working out the sweet spot too helps a lot

My first attempt was polished off yesterday. It was a bit bitter. Second attempt is in the fermenter still. Should be ready just in time. I have a suspicion that is not bitter at all in fact the balance could be all off  :(

Was supposed to be brewing today, but good Friday deliveries put a halt to that. It'll be fresh anyway!

So far can't find any information about colletion point, also don't see any acting from any NHC club...  :(

Rafal - where are you based?

Quote from: BrewDorg on April 15, 2017, 10:40:46 AM
Was supposed to be brewing today, but good Friday deliveries put a halt to that. It'll be fresh anyway!

That's what messed me up too.Don't think I'll get it brewed in time now as i can only brew at the weekends.

Lads if anyone is having difficulty contacting a local club re bottle drops then pm me directly and we can sort something out.

No bottles will go uncollected.

Quote from: fishjam45 on April 15, 2017, 08:03:27 PM
Rafal - where are you based?

Longford, but there is no problem lift it to Dublin or send it by courier. I work 12h shift so it has to be my day off to drive.

The closing date, May 1st, is to have your bottles with your local club reps as per the original post and entry form.

Again, if you don't have a local club rep or if there is any difficulty communicating with your local club as in Rafals case then pm me directly.

Good afternoon,

How's the entries coming along?

I'd say there will be a few variations in appearance in the entries between the 2 pictured?

https://lostcompassbrewing.wordpress.com/2016/12/15/brewing-two-neipas-with-a-yeast-comparison/ (https://lostcompassbrewing.wordpress.com/2016/12/15/brewing-two-neipas-with-a-yeast-comparison/)

I brewed a beer for this competition but it has turned out too dark (think amber ale). Now I'm in two minds whether to enter it or not. Tastes good though

Appearance is 3 points

Quote from: Simon_ on April 26, 2017, 04:22:31 PM
Appearance is 3 points

That's what I was thinking.

So you might only get a 47. Yeah you're right. Don't bother  :P

Quote from: mick02 on April 26, 2017, 04:04:23 PM
I brewed a beer for this competition but it has turned out too dark (think amber ale). Now I'm in two minds whether to enter it or not. Tastes good though

I'd enter it Mick, as Simon Says, no pun intended.

Quote from: Simon_ on April 26, 2017, 04:28:01 PM
So you might only get a 47. Yeah you're right. Don't bother  :P

You're spot on there. 50 or nothing!

My bottle conditioned entry getting sampled tonight.

Whats the story with Judging for this? Do you need any or is it filled up?

As far as I know we are sorted for judges but will double check and get back to you.
It's an invite only event as it's being held in an actual brewery.

We are sorted on numbers for judges, cheers.

Will there be a way to drop bottles with someone this weekend there's entries from cork that need to be dropped somewhere, I'm up for the weekend so I could meet someone to drop them off.

I'll PM you now

Am I the only one who didn't get a label? Couldn't send my entry up today as a result so I am now out.

I appreciate its hard to organise a competition lads but you seem to be dead keen for people to enter and I found you less than accommodating in terms of getting entries up (i.e. wouldnt accept a club rep delivering to brew con), never received a label, and have had no response to my email letting you know I got no label.

Surprised you promoted this so much when its not easy to participate.

Quote from: fishjam45 on April 24, 2017, 10:32:48 PM
The closing date, May 1st, is to have your bottles with your local club reps as per the original post and entry form.

Again, if you don't have a local club rep or if there is any difficulty communicating with your local club as in Rafals case then pm me directly.

You still have until May 1st to get your entries to your club reps, we'll sort it from there.

Apologies on you not receiving a reply earlier but the other Competition organisers are flat out helping in the organising of Brewcon, I'm sure you can appreciate that.

Entries not accepted at Brewcon as no guarantee of not being lost.

PM me directly if you have anymore issues or we can chat tomorrow at Brewcon.

Quote from: krockett on April 28, 2017, 11:29:24 PM
Am I the only one who didn't get a label? Couldn't send my entry up today as a result so I am now out.

I appreciate its hard to organise a competition lads but you seem to be dead keen for people to enter and I found you less than accommodating in terms of getting entries up (i.e. wouldnt accept a club rep delivering to brew con), never received a label, and have had no response to my email letting you know I got no label.

Surprised you promoted this so much when its not easy to participate.

Hi Krockett,
1. I have checked our system, you were sent the labels (automatically) directly after we received your entry (20 Apr 20:32). I have resent a copy of that email to you again.
2. As per the rules for this competition (& for most ones run by clubs for the last year & a half through the NHC), has been to have the local clubs organise the gathering of entries for a coordinated pickup.
3. The club reps were reminded of this a few days ago, specifically that we would not be accepting entries at BrewCon. A few reasons for this, mainly BrewCon is a very busy conference for us, with a lot of people milling about, there isn't any suitable storage space for entries & no method to delivered them for the venue back to our houses safely.
4. The competition is still open. We are not taking in any entry before the competition entry date is up, i.e. 1st May, so we don't have to do a second run to collect entries, defeating the purpose of having local club collection points.
5. You still have 3 more days to print the label & organise to get it to your local club.
6. A bit disingenuous, you emailed at 18:46 and are upset that we didn't reply within six hours! (Some of us have also being putting an hour or two hours into BrewCon lately; so we'll try at our next competition to implement a SLA of 4hrs, if you wish) We do care, that is why we have put so much effort into running it this way. We started using this format 2 years ago ourselves & most clubs have now followed suit when they saw how effective it was (we also advised/helped them set them up when asked, because, heck, we're like that, we help each other out).

(Why did it take you 8 days to realise/say you didn't receive a label?)

Thanks for the response- sorry was just a bit disappointed last night. Shouldn't have brought negativity here. Well done for organising this and looking forward to reading about the judging/ entries.

Just a reminder that today is the shut off point to get your entries to your club reps.

Again, if anybody has any difficulties in any way relating to entries please PM me directly and we'll do our best to sort it out.

Cheers Everybody!

Collections underway today.

Kilkenny DONE
Cork DONE
Kerry DONE - shout out to Big Danny 84 who drove 40 mins to meet John in Mallow

Longford - You are next.

No bother. Fair play to John it's a huge journey.

He's mad I tell ya!

Longford - DONE
Dundalk - NEXT

Thanks guys.

The good folk of Chadwicks Builder Centre, Bray, have kindly donated a prize for the competition.

www.chadwicks.ie (http://www.chadwicks.ie)

I could do with one of those, mine is banjaxed

There ya go, I tried to pick something that might be needed by a homebrewer  :)

Just wondering are the bottles that were conditioning going in the fridge today? I just want to replicate one at home. Thanks

Quote from: BigDanny84 on May 11, 2017, 03:06:53 PM
Just wondering are the bottles that were conditioning going in the fridge today? I just want to replicate one at home. Thanks

Sorry, I forgot to get back to you yesterday.

They will be going into the fridge overnight tonight.

Thanks fishjam

Judging nearly done

Results are in ....

1st - Anil Godinho - Ohnidog

2nd - Cronan McDonald - Cronin

3rd - Colin Bolton - fishjam45

4th - Colm Quinn - Molc

Welll done to all involved, some great beers were judged.

Scoresheets will be available on Monday, we're all off to the pub now.

Lads, thanks again for the hospitality. Sorry I couldn't hang around, a lift home was too tempting to turn down


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Platform Pizza kindly gave us 6 pizzas in the Harbour Bar for after the competition.

One was promptly hijacked and smuggled back to Kildare


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Perfect hosts today and a well run comp. Congratulations to the club for putting on a great day and treating us all so well.

Well in Anil!

I tasted Anil's entry and it was outstanding, practically flawless.


Well done

My thanks to all involved and congratulations to the winners. That was my first competition experience and it was a great day. Good to meet a few new faces also. Cheers all!

Post from the Harbour Bar

Think everyone was a winner with that one!

Quote from: mick02 on May 13, 2017, 03:55:12 PM
One was promptly hijacked and smuggled back to Kildare

A second made it's way to Stillorgan where it's remains made a very good breakfast yesterday :)

Thanks again to all at GCB (especially John), Wicklow Wolf and The Harbour Bar/Platform Pizza. A great day and it's good to finally taste a true NEIPA that was brewed in Ireland.

Nice pic. I see yer all right handed by the way yis hold yere  pints :D

Quote from: DEMPSEY on May 15, 2017, 12:52:19 PM
Nice pic. I see yer all right handed by the way yis hold yere  pints :D

I'm now lifting imaginary pints with both hands in the office to see whether I'm left or right handed

Well done everyone.  :)