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Title: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: rukkus on January 29, 2017, 03:39:53 PM
Looking to temp control a 3Kw brewbuilder element in a 70L pot. Where is the go to place for the above at the moment?
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: Leann ull on January 29, 2017, 04:36:36 PM
For a boil you don't need a pid just a voltage controller
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: rukkus on January 29, 2017, 04:50:17 PM
It's for a HLT
Title: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: Leann ull on January 29, 2017, 04:56:24 PM
Sestos on eBay is cheapest, look into a pump to recirc that sort of vol even if it's just a solar
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: rukkus on January 29, 2017, 05:22:49 PM
25A or 40ASSR?
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: dcalnan on January 29, 2017, 05:37:03 PM
25 is plenty but 40 amp is better

Especially when you have to deal with counterfeit ones like this http://www.instructables.com/id/The-inner-workings-of-Counterfeit-FOTEK-SSRs/
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: Shanna on January 29, 2017, 06:27:58 PM
Here is thread that CH started to help me out to wire this originally - http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/equipment-chemicals/wiring-sestos-pid/msg121647/#msg121647

Shanna
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: rukkus on January 29, 2017, 06:52:07 PM
Cheers, has anyone tried this http://web.craftbeerpi.com? Have a spare raspPi handy
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: Shanna on January 29, 2017, 06:55:14 PM
Quote from: rukkus on January 29, 2017, 06:52:07 PM
Cheers, has anyone tried this? Have a spare raspPi handy
Did not use raspPi.

Shanna
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: rukkus on January 29, 2017, 06:58:12 PM
Interesting, why not?
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: Shanna on January 29, 2017, 07:12:54 PM
Quote from: rukkus on January 29, 2017, 06:58:12 PM
Interesting, why not?
The sestod PID takes as input from analog temperature probes RTD PT100 and are not digital probes. The dallas one wire probes are digital - e.g. DS18b20 but they won't work with the Sestos PID controller as far as I know. You can wire the DS18b20 directly up to the raspPi or you can use some some form of shield to isolate the pi.

Take a look at this other thread where I was looking at doing this. I had used a raspberry PI and a DS18b20 to measure and record temperature.
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/equipment-chemicals/ardbir-%28formally-brewpi-spark%29-herms-build/msg156178/#msg156178

I found the PI to be very unreliable as it kept crashing and I burnt out one from crashes.

Shanna
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: rukkus on January 29, 2017, 07:19:10 PM
Quote from: Shanna on January 29, 2017, 07:12:54 PM
I found the PI to be very unreliable as it kept crashing and I burnt out one from crashes.

Shanna

Ah that'd do it alright
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: wartotojas on January 30, 2017, 08:13:34 AM
Have this still available:
http://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/for-sale/controller-for-recirc-biab-(based-on-rex-c100-pid)/

I moved onto using CraftbeerPi since. Did not have any issues with it yet (only 3 brews with it). And there is version 3.0 being developed with more functionality.
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: rukkus on January 30, 2017, 09:10:27 AM
Cool, any idea what's going in to 3.0? Ordered some SSRs yesterday along with an 8 channel relay board for pumps etc. Might give it an install for a look 😀
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: wartotojas on January 30, 2017, 04:46:25 PM
Briefly
Title: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: darren996 on January 31, 2017, 09:26:51 PM
Quote from: Shanna on January 29, 2017, 07:12:54 PM

I found the PI to be very unreliable as it kept crashing and I burnt out one from crashes.

Shanna

Shanna, just curious to know What version of the pi did u find unreliable and what os were u running? I asked this question on the craftbeerpi forum and people are running rasbian on pi 2 and pi 3 for months and are reporting no issues.

Thinking of going cbpi route myself but like the idea of brewpi with the reliability of the arduino
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: Shanna on January 31, 2017, 10:55:30 PM
Quote from: darren996 on January 31, 2017, 09:26:51 PM
Quote from: Shanna on January 29, 2017, 07:12:54 PM

I found the PI to be very unreliable as it kept crashing and I burnt out one from crashes.

Shanna

Shanna, just curious to know What version of the pi did u find unreliable and what os were u running? I asked this question on the craftbeerpi forum and people are running rasbian on pi 2 and pi 3 for months and are reporting no issues.

Thinking of going cbpi route myself but like the idea of brewpi with the reliability of the arduino
Raspian on a pi 2.

Shanna
Title: Re: PIDs / SSRs & Heat sink
Post by: rukkus on February 03, 2017, 08:15:41 PM
These just arrived, I got 3 of the large ones. Let the fun begin