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Title: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: Keg on February 28, 2017, 02:03:39 PM
Hi All,

I'm looking for some advice on trying to make a beer along the lines of the 'Crafty Brewing Company' American Wheat Ale.  I think it's a cracking beer and I have the ingredients to make something similar...maybe even better ;)

I'm basing the recipe on Greg Hughes' book 'Home Brew Beer', and substituting with what I have at home.  I've read online that this beer has Mosaic & Cascade, I have Citra, El Dorado, Ella & Challenger and I want to go for a really tropical flavour and aroma.  I have never used El Dorado/Ella/Challenger before so I've just listed Citra below by default.
Here's what I'm starting with, any suggestions welcome, thanks!

Grain:
2.5 kg Hook Head Wheat Malt
2.5 kg Hook Head Lager Malt
300g Carapils
Mash at 65°C for 60 Minutes.

Hops:
20.0 g Citra @ 60 Minutes (Boil)
50.0 g Citra @ 0 Minutes

Yeast: Safale US-05
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: nigel_c on February 28, 2017, 03:32:39 PM
Id bitter with challenger and save the citra for late additions.

El Dorado will give you some sweet orange when used late. I'd use it with the citra in the 0min addition and the same inthe dry hopping.
eg challenger @ 60
     citra 50g @ 0
     El Dorado 30g @ 0
30g each of citra & El Dorado @ DH 5 days.

Im not a big fan of O5. I find it strips too much out of beers. Prefer notty nut thats just me.

If you really want a juice beer you are going to up the hops you stated and give it a good dry hopping.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: Qs on February 28, 2017, 04:04:20 PM
Agree on El Dorado, it has a really sweet fruit aroma, kind of like sweets. Mix it with Citra. I've never used Ella but if you watch the new Irish Craft Beer Show where they interview one of the brewers from 8 Degrees he says they just dry hopped with Ella and got great orange character in the nose.
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: helmet on February 28, 2017, 04:18:46 PM
I've a recipe for an American Wheat if you fancy. It got bronze at the Kildale leg of the Nationals.
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: irish_goat on February 28, 2017, 04:22:57 PM
I pinged Alex at Rye River there, he's in the states travelling but sent me back some quick info on the Crafty American Wheat ale.

English pale and wheat malt.
Cascade and mosaic in the whirlpool.
Mosaic dry hop.
Ale yeast.
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: Keg on February 28, 2017, 04:32:02 PM
Quote from: helmet on February 28, 2017, 04:18:46 PM
I've a recipe for an American Wheat if you fancy. It got gold at the Kildale leg of the Nationals.
Cheers that would be great if you could send it on!
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: Keg on February 28, 2017, 04:39:44 PM
Thanks nigel_c & Qs, I'll try out the challenger/El Dorado.  I got 5kg of Minch Wheat Malt for €1 in the HBC special offer a while back (I though it was Hook Head) so might make two attempts at this.

Cheers irish_goat for checking that with Alex, it's a great beer, will have to pick up some Cascade/Mosaic and give it a go.  Tough work getting through all this beer 8)
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: helmet on February 28, 2017, 05:01:26 PM
No bother.
Just to edit, I got a bit over excited in the original post, it got bronze, not gold.
I actually used Hook's Head pale malt, not Morris Otter.
I mashed at 67

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Quote from: Keg on February 28, 2017, 04:32:02 PM
Quote from: helmet on February 28, 2017, 04:18:46 PM
I've a recipe for an American Wheat if you fancy. It got gold at the Kildale leg of the Nationals.
Cheers that would be great if you could send it on!
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: Keg on February 28, 2017, 07:28:29 PM
Quote from: helmet on February 28, 2017, 05:01:26 PM
No bother.
Just to edit, I got a bit over excited in the original post, it got bronze, not gold.
I actually used Hook's Head pale malt, not Morris Otter.
I mashed at 67

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Quote from: Keg on February 28, 2017, 04:32:02 PM
Quote from: helmet on February 28, 2017, 04:18:46 PM
I've a recipe for an American Wheat if you fancy. It got gold at the Kildale leg of the Nationals.
Cheers that would be great if you could send it on!
Nice one, and congrats on the medal.
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: JDC on March 01, 2017, 09:18:12 AM
Can't offer any advice as to how to recreate this beer, but I'm also a big fan of it.  As a result of this thread though, I may just take a stab at brewing my own version.  Be interested to hear how yours works out Keg.  Good luck with it.
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: irish_goat on March 27, 2017, 02:07:22 PM
Had my first one of these at the weekend there. Lovely beer, quite light for a 5% beer but perfect in the nice weather. Will be picking up more.
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: SprocketFuel on March 29, 2017, 12:56:52 PM
Quote from: irish_goat on February 28, 2017, 04:22:57 PM
I pinged Alex at Rye River there

Any chance he'd be willing to give info on McGargles Francis' Big Bangin' IPA?

The hops are on the website but no other real info
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: Qs on March 29, 2017, 03:35:21 PM
Quote from: Stecleary84 on March 29, 2017, 12:56:52 PM
Quote from: irish_goat on February 28, 2017, 04:22:57 PM
I pinged Alex at Rye River there

Any chance he'd be willing to give info on McGargles Francis' Big Bangin' IPA?

The hops are on the website but no other real info

"Francis' IPA is a modern take on the US IPA style, using only floor malted Maris Otter barley"

Well theres your grist.
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: auralabuse on March 29, 2017, 08:10:44 PM
It's a lovely beer, one of my go to IPA's

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Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: Slev on March 29, 2017, 09:55:21 PM
It is a tasty IPA alright. From their website, along with the maris otter malt, they say they use:

"Simcoe – Tropical flavour and aroma
Columbus – Bitterness
Mosaic – Citrus Flavour and Aroma"


Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: Keg on April 07, 2017, 08:41:48 PM
Quote from: JDC123 on March 01, 2017, 09:18:12 AM
Can't offer any advice as to how to recreate this beer, but I'm also a big fan of it.  As a result of this thread though, I may just take a stab at brewing my own version.  Be interested to hear how yours works out Keg.  Good luck with it.
Finally sampling my first batch of these (I only bottled one week ago today) and I'm pretty happy with how it has turned out. Great aroma and taste from the Citra and El Dorado, it's sessionable and refreshing.  (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170407/d8a7b145356018809fdc40dab6aa5a43.jpg)

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Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: Keg on May 06, 2017, 11:51:15 AM
This is the beer that went on tap at BrewCon as 'Tropical Wheat'. It's my second attempt at an American Wheat Ale based on the tips given here. I'm planning on playing around with the recipe (maybe some different yeasts) and brewing it again to make use of the BrewCon grains. Any feedback from those who have tried it is welcome!


18.5 IBUs 

5%ABV


Grain:

2.0 kg Minch Wheat Malt

2.0 kg Hook Head Lager Malt

200g Carapils (Bestmalz) 

120g Munich (Bestmalz) 

100g Melanoidin (Bestmalz) 

Mash at 67°C for 60 Minutes.


Hops: 

10g Challenger @ 60 mins (7.7 IBUs)

5g Citra @15 mins (3.6 IBUs) 

5g El Dorado @15 mins (4.1 IBUs) 

5g Citra @5 mins (1.5 IBUs) 

5g El Dorado  @5 mins (1.7 IBUs) 

20g Citra @0 mins (0 IBUs) 

20g El Dorado @0 mins (0 IBUs) 

20g Citra @whirlpool 

20g El Dorado @whirlpool  

20g Ella @ whirlpool 

30g Ella dry hop 3 days before kegging 


Yeast: Safale US-05

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Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: helmet on May 06, 2017, 12:08:35 PM
Had it at Brewcon, cracking stuff, fair play!
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: DEMPSEY on May 06, 2017, 02:27:46 PM
I think the yeast worked well with allowing the flavors to shine
Title: Re: ‘Crafty Brewing Company’ American Wheat Ale
Post by: JDC on May 06, 2017, 03:48:36 PM
Cheers for sharing the recipe - will definitely be attempting this now. Tried it at BrewCon also and it was a cracking beer. Well played  :)