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Title: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 01, 2017, 04:06:29 PM
Cumbersome title.

Hey All,
The next barrel project is upon us.
The Imperial has spent nearly 5 months in the red wine barrel, and is tasting very nice, I want to empty that barrel and refill it with a new beer - a 1877 Truman 4 that will be aged with brett, there is another barrel free but it has bacteria in it other than brett.

The recipe is very straight forward,

Abv 7.28
100% pale malt
IBUs - 125
90 mins Cluster
30 mins Goldings
Mash 66.5 c
Sparge 77 c
Yeast WLP 013 London Ale
Brett added at secondary (which could be at home or when going in the barrel, preferably at home)

More to be fleshed out about the recipe for sure, just want to get an idea who would be interested - we have 225 litres to fill...

Any takers?

Thanks,

Fionn

Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: GlasbrewInc on March 01, 2017, 04:09:32 PM
Dean - 20ltrs


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Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Beermonger on March 01, 2017, 04:11:20 PM
1. Dean - 20ltrs
2. Stephen - 20 l
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Boycott on March 01, 2017, 04:12:26 PM

1. Dean - 20ltrs
2. Stephen - 20 l
3. DCBrewing - 20L
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: cruiscinlan on March 01, 2017, 04:16:12 PM


1. Dean - 20ltrs
2. Stephen - 20 l
3. DCBrewing - 20L
4. Cruiscinlan-20L 

Y no invert? Son I am disappoint
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 01, 2017, 04:37:08 PM
because I am starting to think you are a tin roofer when it comes to invert - where is it brother?
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: beerfly on March 01, 2017, 05:14:00 PM
yea i might need some of that sweet sweet suga' to hit that abv target
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 01, 2017, 05:32:18 PM
Yea so, about that..
The recipe has the og at 79 and fg at 24, now with the brett in secondary and aging for about 6 months, that doesn't make much sense.

More realistically it would get down to about 10 so the og would only have to be 65 to get to our 7.2

any thoughts??
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Dr Jacoby on March 01, 2017, 06:09:26 PM
1. Dean - 20ltrs
2. Stephen - 20 l
3. DCBrewing - 20L
4. Cruiscinlan-20L 
5. Peter - 20L
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: ferg on March 01, 2017, 07:34:00 PM

1. Dean - 20ltrs
2. Stephen - 20 l
3. DCBrewing - 20L
4. Cruiscinlan-20L 
5. Peter - 20L
6. Fergal - 20L

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Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: beerfly on March 01, 2017, 09:49:26 PM
1. Dean - 20ltrs
2. Stephen - 20 l
3. DCBrewing - 20L
4. Cruiscinlan-20L 
5. Peter - 20L
6. Fergal - 20L
7. Ronan - 20L
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Beermonger on March 01, 2017, 10:03:44 PM
1. Dean - 20ltrs
2. Stephen - 40 l
3. DCBrewing - 20L
4. Cruiscinlan-20L 
5. Peter - 20L
6. Fergal - 20L
7. Ronan - 20L
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: jawalemon on March 01, 2017, 10:07:02 PM

1. Dean - 20ltrs
2. Stephen - 40 l
3. DCBrewing - 20L
4. Cruiscinlan-20L 
5. Peter - 20L
6. Fergal - 20L
7. Ronan - 20L
8. JawaLemon - 20l
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 01, 2017, 10:12:09 PM
1. Dean - 20ltrs
2. Stephen - 40 l
3. DCBrewing - 20L
4. Cruiscinlan-20L 
5. Peter - 20L
6. Fergal - 20L
7. Ronan - 20L
8. JawaLemon - 20l
9. Fionn - 40l
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: The Mandalorian1 on March 01, 2017, 10:13:55 PM
1. Dean - 20ltrs
2. Stephen - 40 l
3. DCBrewing - 20L
4. Cruiscinlan-20L 
5. Peter - 20L
6. Fergal - 20L
7. Ronan - 20L
8. JawaLemon - 20l
9. Fionn - 40l
10. Criostóir - 20L
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 01, 2017, 10:54:30 PM
OK, can we all aim for 21? Final volume after primary?
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Adrian on March 01, 2017, 11:05:09 PM
1. Dean - 20ltrs
2. Stephen - 40 l
3. DCBrewing - 20L
4. Cruiscinlan-20L 
5. Peter - 20L
6. Fergal - 20L
7. Ronan - 20L
8. JawaLemon - 20l
9. Fionn - 40l
10. Criostóir - 20L
11. Adrian 20l
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 01, 2017, 11:15:53 PM
1. Dean - 21l
2. Stephen - 42l
3. DCBrewing - 21l
4. Cruiscinlan-21l
5. Peter - 21l
6. Fergal - 21l
7. Ronan - 21l
8. JawaLemon - 21l
9. Fionn - 42l
10. Criostóir - 21l
11. Adrian 21l

Yay, done
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Boycott on March 02, 2017, 08:21:15 AM
why would you put everyone down as 21L seeing as nearly everyone brings the beer in a corny so 19L. Get an extra person on board as we are always short.
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 02, 2017, 09:32:28 AM
shut up Paul
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Dr Brown Ale on March 02, 2017, 09:34:21 AM
Quote from: fyodor on March 02, 2017, 09:32:28 AM
shut up Paul
:D
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Beermonger on March 02, 2017, 04:07:29 PM
Bit of this recipe flying around everywhere, so I'm just collecting the ones I'm aware here. Fionn can confirm, deny, or contradict:

OG-FG: 1079-1024 (from Pattinson's book)
Yeast: Fionn says WLP013 but WY1028 is also listed in the book and is supposed to be the same
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 02, 2017, 04:34:54 PM
Damn you Stephen
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 02, 2017, 04:37:44 PM
Can we lower the OG?
Can we presume that with the brett, and extended aging the fg will arrive at least at 14 and quite likely 10?
I don't want us to make an imperial pale is all...
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Beermonger on March 02, 2017, 04:44:35 PM
Yeah, makes sense. So maybe 1068 or so?

Just wondering how much grain to get in and use. OG is kind of a handy thing to know...
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Frequent Sequence on March 02, 2017, 04:51:57 PM
Bit cheeky but if there is room for one more I'll jump on board  ;D
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Dr Jacoby on March 02, 2017, 06:07:20 PM
Quote from: Beermonger on March 02, 2017, 04:44:35 PM
Yeah, makes sense. So maybe 1068 or so?

Just wondering how much grain to get in and use. OG is kind of a handy thing to know...

1.068 is fine by me.
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: beerfly on March 02, 2017, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: DCBrewing on March 02, 2017, 08:21:15 AM
why would you put everyone down as 21L seeing as nearly everyone brings the beer in a corny so 19L. Get an extra person on board as we are always short.
As much as it pains me to say it, I agree with Paul   + we are always short
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: GlasbrewInc on March 20, 2017, 06:27:20 PM
1. Dean - 21l
2. Stephen - 42l
3. DCBrewing - 21l
4. Cruiscinlan-21l
5. Peter - 21l
6. Fergal - 21l
7. Ronan - 21l
8. JawaLemon - 21l
9. Fionn - 42l
10. Criostóir - 21l
11. Adrian 21l

Have to bail on this due to work commits
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 21, 2017, 11:30:27 AM
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Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2017, 06:27:20 PM »

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    Thank You


1. Stephen - 40l
2. Cruiscinlan-19l
3. Peter - 19l
4. Fergal - 19l
5. Ronan - 19l
6. JawaLemon - 21l
7. Fionn - 42l
8. Criostóir - 21l
9. Adrian 21l

Anyone want to correct their quantities? We're cutting it fairly close - three litres short if those figures are right...
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 21, 2017, 11:56:13 AM
1. Stephen - 40l
2. Cruiscinlan-19l
3. Peter - 19l
4. Fergal - 19l
5. Ronan - 19l
6. JawaLemon - 21l
7. Fionn - 42l
8. Criostóir - 21l
9. Adrian 20l

4 litres short
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: jawalemon on March 21, 2017, 12:18:35 PM

1. Stephen - 40l
2. Cruiscinlan-19l
3. Peter - 19l
4. Fergal - 19l
5. Ronan - 19l
6. JawaLemon - 22l
7. Fionn - 42l
8. Criostóir - 21l
9. Adrian 20l

3 litres short
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Beermonger on March 21, 2017, 02:22:51 PM
Hate to say it, but using Cornies I can only bring 38 l. Maybe I'll bring a growler full too, that'll give 40.
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 22, 2017, 03:21:53 PM
empty/fill date - 2nd of April




1. Stephen - 40l
2. Cruiscinlan-19l
3. Peter - 19l
4. Fergal - ?
5. Ronan - 19l
6. JawaLemon - 22l
7. Fionn - 42l
8. Criostóir - 21l
9. Adrian 20l

Sexy Paul?
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Dr Brown Ale on March 22, 2017, 03:42:40 PM
the 9th yes?
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 22, 2017, 04:23:52 PM
Yes, Sexual Desmond my son.
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Hingo on March 22, 2017, 04:33:12 PM
Sunday The 9th of April, 2017, for emptying​ the RIS and filling the Truman recipe.

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Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 22, 2017, 04:51:52 PM
excessive clarity there Dave
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Boycott on March 22, 2017, 07:05:40 PM
Quote from: fyodor on March 22, 2017, 03:21:53 PM
empty/fill date - 2nd of April




1. Stephen - 40l
2. Cruiscinlan-19l
3. Peter - 19l
4. Fergal - ?
5. Ronan - 19l
6. JawaLemon - 22l
7. Fionn - 42l
8. Criostóir - 21l
9. Adrian 20l

Sexy Paul?

Im in if you have me.
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Hingo on April 06, 2017, 11:26:04 AM
What time are we emptying & filling on Sunday? Allianz GAA finals are on all day  (2pm & 4 pm - http://gaa.tickets.ie/Listing/EventInformation/34451)  so the Croker area will be manic enough 12-6pm

could either do early morning or later in the evening?
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Dr Jacoby on April 06, 2017, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: Hingo on April 06, 2017, 11:26:04 AM
What time are we emptying & filling on Sunday? Allianz GAA finals are on all day  (2pm & 4 pm - http://gaa.tickets.ie/Listing/EventInformation/34451)  so the Croker area will be manic enough 12-6pm

could either do early morning or later in the evening?

For anyone driving in, Fionn's place will be inaccessible during the times Dave mentions (and probably a bit before and after those times) as the road will be closed. I can come in early morning or later in the evening.
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Hingo on April 06, 2017, 01:28:12 PM
Yeah I'd have to be driving, 3 kegs to collect  :(
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Boycott on April 06, 2017, 01:31:35 PM
It will have to be late evening for me then. This is a disaster
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Dr Jacoby on April 06, 2017, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: DCBrewing on April 06, 2017, 01:31:35 PMDISASTER
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on April 06, 2017, 04:07:41 PM
so we all agreed on Monday evening then?
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: jawalemon on April 06, 2017, 09:07:19 PM
Sure


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Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: fyodor on March 10, 2018, 11:17:42 AM
Barrel empty tomorrow week? What ye reckon?
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: The Mandalorian1 on March 10, 2018, 06:05:03 PM
Sweet!
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Beermonger on March 13, 2018, 12:13:24 PM
Oh aye!
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Boycott on March 13, 2018, 03:22:55 PM
yeah

OH i forgot i wasnt in this one
Title: Re: Next Barrel Project (1877 Truman 4 - thanks R. Pattinson) AND Imperial Emptying
Post by: Dr Jacoby on March 17, 2018, 04:44:10 PM
I can make this.