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Title: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: Mossy on July 02, 2017, 01:20:31 AM
Just wondering if it's possible to use a corny keg as a brite tank?
Has anyone here tried this? And if so what extra equipment would be needed to bottle straight from the keg without loosing any carb?
Cheers
Title: Re: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: DEMPSEY on July 02, 2017, 01:49:35 AM
Yes it can. You will need it bright enough going in and then carb it up and bottle with a good counterpressure bottler.
Title: Re: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: LordEoin on July 02, 2017, 10:52:37 PM
Curious. Why do you want to?
Title: Re: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: Mossy on July 03, 2017, 06:21:13 PM
Quote from: LordEoin on July 02, 2017, 10:52:37 PM
Curious. Why do you want to?

I can never seem to get the carb levels just right with carb drop or bottling bucket. Just another avenue I'm investigating.
Title: Re: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: SprocketFuel on July 03, 2017, 06:27:59 PM
There's plenty of calculators out there to help you get carbing right
https://www.brewersfriend.com/beer-priming-calculator/
Title: Re: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: Mossy on July 04, 2017, 08:37:02 AM
Quote from: Stecleary84 on July 03, 2017, 06:27:59 PM
There's plenty of calculators out there to help you get carbing right
https://www.brewersfriend.com/beer-priming-calculator/

Thanks for the link. I've used calculators like his but the problem for some reason seems to be consistency.
If I use the bottling bucket method some bottles in the same batch are over carbed and some are under.
After I boil up the sugar and add the beer to it I would only give it a fairly light stir to avoid any oxidation.
Maybe I need to be a bit more vigorous with it, you know? Let it know who's boss!
Title: Re: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: DEMPSEY on July 04, 2017, 09:34:15 AM
Give it a good stir to make sure your getting all the sugar dissolved. Remember you are bottle conditioning so any oxygen you pick up will be scavenged by the yeast as it carbs it up.
Title: Re: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: SprocketFuel on July 04, 2017, 11:49:48 AM
I alway put the boiled sugar into a bottling bucket and move the beer from my fermentor onto it, It makes sure the priming sugar is will mixed in evenly
Title: Re: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: johnrm on July 04, 2017, 07:30:26 PM
@Mossy, do you have Kegs? If so do you have CO2?

Purge your bottling bucket with CO2 to minimise oxidation when transferring.
I do this when bottling and when filling Kegs.
I have many other issues but Oxidation is not one.

When you are making up your sugar solution use enough water that your syrup has low viscosity, 80g in 100ml or so.
Simmer for 5 mins so its well dissolved and pour into bucket.
Give it some CO2 (if available)
Fill bottling bucket ensuring beer is going only in one direction (either clockwise or anti) This will mix the sugar evenly.
Then don't faff about, fill.
Title: Re: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: Mossy on July 05, 2017, 01:09:03 AM
Quote from: johnrm on July 04, 2017, 07:30:26 PM
@Mossy, do you have Kegs? If so do you have CO2?

Purge your bottling bucket with CO2 to minimise oxidation when transferring.
I do this when bottling and when filling Kegs.
I have many other issues but Oxidation is not one.

When you are making up your sugar solution use enough water that your syrup has low viscosity, 80g in 100ml or so.
Simmer for 5 mins so its well dissolved and pour into bucket.
Give it some CO2 (if available)
Fill bottling bucket ensuring beer is going only in one direction (either clockwise or anti) This will mix the sugar evenly.
Then don't faff about, fill.

Cool, thanks. I'll give these and the previous suggestions a go.
I have a few corny kegs and some co2 that I never use out in the shed.
No one has said yeah a corny keg brite tank is a good idea.
It seems like a good idea in theory, am I missing something?
Title: Re: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: johnrm on July 05, 2017, 01:29:51 PM
I don't think anyone said it was bad.

'Corny as a bright tank' is what I would call 'Kegging and beer gun filling'.
It speeds up Ferment to Dispense but you still have to have a means to fill bottles (or mini kegs)

Its worth figuring out your bottle conditioning by following the tips above - This method has been used by nearly all homebrewers and with great success.
Title: Re: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: LordEoin on July 05, 2017, 03:24:38 PM
i think people just don't bother because if you have a keg of beer ready to drink it's easier to just stick a tap on it than to go to the bother of bottling it from the keg.
Title: Re: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: Dr Horrible on July 05, 2017, 05:38:37 PM
I bottle all my beers from a keg just like you've described here but the reason I do it is because all my brewing and beer storage is in a shed away from the house and I don't have a kegerator so keg carbonation is less influenced by temperature than bottle carbonation ( in that you can adjust carbonation pressures to compensate for hot or cold weather). Also with a beer gun to purge bottles with CO2 you really minimise oxidation. I could bottle condition this time of year without much trouble but to be honest I've gotten very fond of the beer gun since I figured it out.

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Title: Re: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: Mossy on July 05, 2017, 07:43:41 PM
Quote from: Dr Horrible on July 05, 2017, 05:38:37 PM
I bottle all my beers from a keg just like you've described here but the reason I do it is because all my brewing and beer storage is in a shed away from the house and I don't have a kegerator so keg carbonation is less influenced by temperature than bottle carbonation ( in that you can adjust carbonation pressures to compensate for hot or cold weather). Also with a beer gun to purge bottles with CO2 you really minimise oxidation. I could bottle condition this time of year without much trouble but to be honest I've gotten very fond of the beer gun since I figured it out.

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I'd be in kind of the same situation as yourself space wise.
What beer gun do you use?
Title: Re: Corny keg brite tank
Post by: Dr Horrible on July 05, 2017, 10:23:26 PM
Blichmann - got it off one of the lads here when it was advertised last year.