National Homebrew Club Ireland

Hi all,
Want to do another sour barrel if ye are interested. I was thinking to do a repeat of the first brown sour, with any modifications/suggestions to improve it welcome.

This was the original recipe:


Oud Bruin
Target abv 6%
Target fermentables 76.5 - so mash at 68 degrees c.
target og - 1.060
Marris otter 78%
Munich type II 13%
Crystal Malt ecb 240 - 6%
Carafa I 2%
Roast barley - 1%

Desired water profile:

Ca 100
Cl 300
SO4 150
HCO3 100

5 ibus - some old cheesy hops would be best.

The last time we used straightforward ale yeasts - perhaps this time we would use proper Belgian ale ones?

I'll do 40 litres for sure, and more if necessary.

Let us know what ye think sure.

thanks and all the best,

Fionn

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 20L

Hi Fionn, I'd like to get in on this if possible, not done one before. Could brew a keg so 19L

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 20L
- cruiscinlan - 19L {ie 1 corny keg}
- vinyljunkie - 19L

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan - 19L {ie 1 corny keg}
- vinyljunkie - 19L

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan - 19L {ie 1 corny keg}
- vinyljunkie - 19L
- ronan - 19L

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan - 19L {ie 1 corny keg}
- vinyljunkie - 19L
- ronan - 19L
- Johnny - 19L

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan - 19L {ie 1 corny keg}
- vinyljunkie - 19L
- ronan - 19L
- Johnny - 19L
- Ian - 19L

I'm in but I've no idea who this Fionn fella is.

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan - 19L {ie 1 corny keg}
- vinyljunkie - 19L
- ronan - 19L
- Johnny - 19L
- Ian - 19L
- Peter - 19L

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan - 19L {ie 1 corny keg}
- vinyljunkie - 19L
- ronan - 19L
- Johnny - 19L
- Ian - 19L
- Peter - 19L
- Kris - 19L

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan - 19L {ie 1 corny keg}
- vinyljunkie - 19L
- ronan - 19L
- Johnny - 19L
- Ian - 19L
- Peter - 19L
- Kris - 19L
Boycott - 19L

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan - 19L {ie 1 corny keg}
- vinyljunkie - 19L
- ronan - 19L
- Johnny - 19L
- Ian - 19L
- Peter - 19L
- Kris - 19L
Boycott - 19L
Criostóir- 19L

Fair fekks lads that was some quick response - puts the NCB to shame

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan - 19L {ie 1 corny keg}
- vinyljunkie - 19L
- ronan - 19L
- Johnny - 19L
- Ian - 19L
- Peter - 19L
- Kris - 19L
Boycott - 19L
Criostóir- 19L
Jawalemon- 19L


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fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan - 19L {ie 1 corny keg}
- vinyljunkie - 19L
- ronan - 19L
- Johnny - 19L
- Ian - 19L
- Peter - 19L
- Kris - 19L
Boycott - 19L
Criostóir- 19L
Jawalemon- 19L
Gearoid - 19L

Adrian - 19l

Jaysis lads,

Right, barrel is over full, but we've always had a few who couldn't make it for some reason or other, and we've been short before too. Let's try a new method - post a picture of your brew here (indicating the exact quantity you have if possible) and you're in the barrel - first brewed, first in.

Does that sound fair?

Also, could you indicate if you are going to add brett and lacto? We only need about 80 l with them, I'll sour my 40, so just need two volunteers.

Thanks,
f

Actually, as much as I'd like to take part I think I'll have to pull out due to a combination of time constraints and not having a corny keg or CO2 for transport.

Just keep everyone on the list as people always pull out

You're gonna have to using EventBrite for these barrel slots soon!  :D :P

@Fyodor:Your asking for trouble with wanting brew pics.  likely to get some shockin dick pics instead.
Capital brewers Death Match is the only way to go.

I'm not worried Cristoir, Sexy Paul has surely already done his worst

So let me get this right. If you post a dick pic, you're in?

Quote from: fyodor on July 11, 2017, 12:35:11 PM
Jaysis lads,

Right, barrel is over full, but we've always had a few who couldn't make it for some reason or other, and we've been short before too. Let's try a new method - post a picture of your brew here (indicating the exact quantity you have if possible) and you're in the barrel - first brewed, first in.

Does that sound fair?

Also, could you indicate if you are going to add brett and lacto? We only need about 80 l with them, I'll sour my 40, so just need two volunteers.

Thanks,
f

I'll sour my portion. Could you update the original post with a deadline for getting this done?

With regards to suggestions for modification, anyone reckon it could do with being more bruin? Having one of the last of my bottles and it's almost more of a deep red than brown. Would some chocolate malt go well in this recipe?

(https://i.imgur.com/cthAdKB.jpg)

Some carafa special would work well. You don't want roastiness in there (or maybe that's just me).

Is there a date for the fill? I'll be away for two weeks from Saturday which may rule me out


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Fill date will be around the last week in August, first week of September.

Good suggestions Paul/Peter

New malt bill:

Marris otter 78%
Munich type II 13%
Crystal Malt ecb 240 - 6%
Carafa I 2%
Roast barley - 1%

What ye reckon?

Seems good!

Ok I can work to those dates.


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- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan - 19L {ie 1 corny keg}
- vinyljunkie - 19L
- ronan - 19L
- Ian - 19L
- Peter - 19L
- Kris - 19L
- Boycott - 19L
- Criostóir- 19L
- Jawalemon- 19L
- Gearoid - 19L
- Adrian - 19L

I'm pulling out of this one, enjoy!

Me too:

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan - 19L {ie 1 corny keg}
- vinyljunkie - 19L
- ronan - 19L
- Ian - 19L
- Peter - 19L
- Boycott - 19L
- Criostóir- 19L
- Jawalemon- 19L
- Gearoid - 19L
- Adrian - 19L

The above is 249L.

So many flakers

Shove it!

Quote from: Boycott on July 19, 2017, 03:08:33 PM
So many flakers

You were flaking before it was cool!

Is there a provisional date for this barrel fill?
Should we suggest one?*


*Fionn,
Sugggest a date, my beer is ready😉

Looking at the first week of September for the fill

Class! Is something being emptied, or is it empathy?

nothing being emptied, it's going into the barrel that was emptied the other week - the second sour saison

Sweet!
Cheers mate.

Quote from: fyodor on August 02, 2017, 12:57:19 PM
nothing being emptied, it's going into the barrel that was emptied the other week - the second sour saison

Is this still over full? How many litres are brewed now cause I haven't got around to mine yet.

What yeast? Belgian or standard ale?

I've got 20L brewed.

It's not full yet

I used two different belgian ale yeasts for my 40 l

Just going to put the list up again with completions noted, if you have brewed your portion please edit the list.
First brewed, first in.
Thanks

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B
- cruiscinlan
- vinyljunkie
- ronan
- Ian
- Peter
- Boycott
- Criostóir- 19L
- Jawalemon
- Gearoid
- Adrian

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B
- cruiscinlan
- vinyljunkie
- ronan
- Ian - 19L
- Peter
- Boycott
- Criostóir- 19L
- Jawalemon
- Gearoid
- Adrian

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B
- cruiscinlan
- vinyljunkie
- ronan
- Ian - 19L
- Peter
- Boycott
- Criostóir- 19L
- Jawalemon 21L
- Gearoid
- Adrian

Picking up the grain for this today will brew tomorrow or Saturday.

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B
- cruiscinlan
- vinyljunkie 19L
- ronan
- Ian - 19L
- Peter
- Boycott
- Criostóir- 19L
- Jawalemon 21L
- Gearoid
- Adrian

I used a Belgian wit yeast and a house culture to sour.

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B
- cruiscinlan
- vinyljunkie 19L
- ronan
- Ian - 19L
- Peter 19L
- Boycott
- Criostóir- 19L
- Jawalemon 21L
- Gearoid
- Adrian

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan
- vinyljunkie 19L
- ronan
- Ian - 19L
- Peter 19L
- Boycott
- Criostóir- 19L
- Jawalemon 21L
- Gearoid
- Adrian

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan
- vinyljunkie 19L
- ronan - 19L
- Ian - 19L
- Peter 19L
- Boycott
- Criostóir- 19L
- Jawalemon 21L
- Gearoid
- Adrian

- fyodor - 40L
- Paul B - 19L
- cruiscinlan - 19L
- vinyljunkie 19L
- ronan - 19L
- Ian - 19L
- Peter 19L
- Boycott
- Criostóir- 19L
- Jawalemon 21L
- Gearoid
- Adrian

Thanks everyone for the updates, I know Adrian and Sexy Paul cannot brew theirs in the next week, so unless Gearoid can do his this week, here is how the barrel is gonna look:

- fyodor - 80L
- Paul B - 18L
- cruiscinlan - 18L
- vinyljunkie 18L
- ronan - 18L
- Ian - 18L
- Peter 18L
- Criostóir- 18L
- Jawalemon 18L

I'm gonna brew another 40 L this weekend, and I've reduced all the quantities to 18 - repeated shortages at barrel fills have me convinced that there's not 19L in a corny keg.

Thanks!

I'm brewing this weekend. Got my ingredients delivered today.

great stuff

I'm going to siphon off an extra litre while Fionn is looking the other way

you haven't been doing that already?

I normally nab somebody's else's keg but that's a lot to get through

Quote from: fyodor on August 23, 2017, 01:58:14 PM

... and I've reduced all the quantities to 18 - repeated shortages at barrel fills have me convinced that there's not 19L in a corny keg.

Thanks!

it would be 19L to the lid the loss would be filling to under the gas dip tube.

- fyodor - 80L
- Paul B - 18L
- cruiscinlan - 18L
- vinyljunkie 18L
- ronan - 18L
- Ian - 18L
- Peter 18L
- Criostóir- 18L
- Jawalemon 18L
- Gearoid 18L

Whens the barrel fill?

reckon we can decide that at the meet this week

I might not make it.

Only days I cant make are the 25th-29th of September, and Beavertown Obviously.

How does Monday the 18th sound for the Barrel fill?

Noob question but where is the fill and what time would you be thinking?

Yea bit vague there...

It's underneath the winebar on Russell Street, same road as Croke Park, after work - so probably start around 7. Alternatively ye can drop the cornies or secondaries into the winebar anytime before, now if ye like.

Thanks

Cheers - yea go past there on way home from work so that date is perfect.

Quote from: fyodor on August 31, 2017, 03:31:02 PM
Yea bit vague there...

It's underneath the winebar on Russell Street, same road as Croke Park, after work - so probably start around 7. Alternatively ye can drop the cornies or secondaries into the winebar anytime before, now if ye like.

Thanks

That Monday won't work for me Fionn. Might drop it off to you on the Sunday (17th September) if that suits. I'd have to wait a few days before collecting the empty though. Is that a problem?

Date and time suits me Fionn

Sure Peter, that's no problem at all

Quote from: Dr Jacoby on August 31, 2017, 09:20:33 PM

Quote from: fyodor on August 31, 2017, 03:31:02 PM
Yea bit vague there...

It's underneath the winebar on Russell Street, same road as Croke Park, after work - so probably start around 7. Alternatively ye can drop the cornies or secondaries into the winebar anytime before, now if ye like.

Thanks

That Monday won't work for me Fionn. Might drop it off to you on the Sunday (17th September) if that suits. I'd have to wait a few days before collecting the empty though. Is that a problem?

FYI Mayo and Dublin playing on the 17th

something has come up, can we move the fill to the tuesday?

thanks

Yea no bother