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Title: Lager malt in an IPA?
Post by: Bazza on July 27, 2017, 11:22:56 AM
Has/does anyone have experience in adding plis/lager malt to a standard IPA?

Been reading a bit about brewers who use varying percentages of lager malt to lend a cleaner, crisper and dryer quality to their IPAs. Some opinion suggests it's good for highlighting the hop and yeast character.

Never used it in an IPA before so would love to hear any of your experiences.

Cheers,

-Barry
Title: Re: Lager malt in an IPA?
Post by: irish_goat on July 27, 2017, 12:04:06 PM
A few breweries are making "Extra Pale Ale" and i'm guessing they do this by using lager malt. If highlighting hop character is what you want then I'd go for it.
Title: Re: Lager malt in an IPA?
Post by: delzep on July 27, 2017, 12:42:34 PM
Used about 90% pils and 10% wheat in an ipa a couple of months ago and it was great. Lots of mosaic helped too
Title: Re: Lager malt in an IPA?
Post by: Mahblah on July 27, 2017, 01:28:23 PM
Got the Honorable mention for in PA category this year for 10% carapils, 90% Lager malt and all citra hops.
Title: Re: Lager malt in an IPA?
Post by: diarmuid on July 28, 2017, 01:05:23 AM
I've cut my pale malt with 25% lager malt recently and got good results for IPA's.

I was told that pro brewers here have access to a low colour pale malt that gives the similar result
Title: Re: Lager malt in an IPA?
Post by: irish_goat on July 28, 2017, 01:28:29 AM
Quote from: diarmuid on July 28, 2017, 01:05:23 AMI was told that pro brewers here have access to a low colour pale malt that gives the similar result

That's stout malt, isn't it?
Title: Re: Lager malt in an IPA?
Post by: lordstilton on July 28, 2017, 08:30:14 AM
most of my IPA's are brewed using lager malt and some munich or vienna...just make sure you do a 90 min boil
Title: Re: Lager malt in an IPA?
Post by: Bazza on July 28, 2017, 09:53:08 AM
Cheers for all the comments, guys.

Yeah, I had considered using about 25% lager in an IPA for a recipe last night, but had read that (as you stated, lordstilton) a 90-minute boil was necessary. For someone who only gets a small window of brewing opportunity in an evening, time is of the essence, so I went all pale and a 60-minute boil.

Definitely going to consider this for the next IPA attempt; just leave work 1/2 hour early :)

Cheers,

-Barry
Title: Re: Lager malt in an IPA?
Post by: lordstilton on July 28, 2017, 10:27:57 AM
This recipe took silver two years in a row.

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 33.08 l
Post Boil Volume: 27.08 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 25.00 l   
Bottling Volume: 24.00 l
Estimated OG: 1.060 SG
Estimated Color: 4.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 62.2 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 71.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 73.8 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
5.77 kg               Lager Malt (2.0 SRM)                     Grain         1        85.8 %       
0.39 kg               Munich Malt (9.0 SRM)                    Grain         2        5.7 %         
0.33 kg               Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM)                    Grain         3        4.9 %         
0.24 kg               Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM)                Grain         4        3.6 %         
34.27 g               Magnum [12.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min         Hop           5             
34.27 g               Centennial [10.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min     Hop           6             
50 g               Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min          Hop           7             
50 g               Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min           Hop           8             
2.3 pkg               Safale American  (DCL/Fermentis #US-05)  Yeast         9        -             
50 g               Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days       Hop           10       
50 g               Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days
Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 6.72 kg
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Name              Description                             Step Temperat Step Time     
Mash In           Add 19.28 l of water at 72.6 C          64.4 C        75 min       

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (4.87l, 17.42l) of 75.6 C water