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This might open a can of worms from a Health & Safety perspective but here goes....

I regularly travel between Limerick - Galway, often with a corny and gas tank in the car. I know its not ideal to transport gas in a passenger vehicle, but is it safe and are there any basic precautions I should take? 

I store the gas upright behind a passenger seat (pushed back as far as possible), secured with 2 seatbelts. The gas is off, and disconnected from the corny and regulator.

I'm guessing others here are transporting gas too, if only to get it refilled and brought home again.  How do you guys transport your gas tanks?

Thanks in advance
Keith

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I'd say you're pretty covered there. All the micro breweries would transport gas in their vans so there's not much difference bringing it in a car.

Cheers!

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Commercial vehicles carry a "Pressurised Gas" warning sticker.

I doubt if the regs apply to private individuals

If it applied to private houses I would need on the front and back doors:

Oxygen
CO2
Propane
Argon mix
Compressed Air
Flammable Liquids

???

In fairness I have a few other dangerous gasses that I should be warning people about before they enter the house

Quote from: Will_D on October 27, 2018, 06:53:36 PM
If it applied to private houses I would need on the front and back doors:

Oxygen
CO2
Propane
Argon mix
Compressed Air
Flammable Liquids

???

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Quote from: Keg on October 27, 2018, 12:12:38 PM
This might open a can of worms from a Health & Safety perspective but here goes....

I regularly travel between Limerick - Galway, often with a corny and gas tank in the car. I know its not ideal to transport gas in a passenger vehicle, but is it safe and are there any basic precautions I should take? 

I store the gas upright behind a passenger seat (pushed back as far as possible), secured with 2 seatbelts. The gas is off, and disconnected from the corny and regulator.

I'm guessing others here are transporting gas too, if only to get it refilled and brought home again.  How do you guys transport your gas tanks?

Thanks in advance
Keith

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You're right to be concerned, I covered this at the Brewcon Safety lecture, a 5kg cylinder of CO2 will take up 2.5 cubic meters at atmospheric pressure, ie a lot more than your car, if the valve is leaking it could replace all the air in your car, and the big thing with CO2 is that it's a silent killer, you can't smell it, and it will gently and you off to sleep, before suffocating you, not a good idea at the wheel of the car. Whenever I pick up a cylinder, I make sure to keep a window open, furthermore you'll need to keep it strapped down well as you could end up knocking the valve off, if the cylinder bangs against something during the drive, here's a little video to help demonstrate why cylinders should be secured properly
https://youtu.be/f-xmaPSZ6GM (https://youtu.be/f-xmaPSZ6GM)

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Mister, mister, your cylinder is getting away.

Thanks for the advice on this, definitely something to keep in mind in future.

Quote from: Sorcerers Apprentice on October 30, 2018, 05:40:27 PM

Quote from: Keg on October 27, 2018, 12:12:38 PM
This might open a can of worms from a Health & Safety perspective but here goes....

I regularly travel between Limerick - Galway, often with a corny and gas tank in the car. I know its not ideal to transport gas in a passenger vehicle, but is it safe and are there any basic precautions I should take? 

I store the gas upright behind a passenger seat (pushed back as far as possible), secured with 2 seatbelts. The gas is off, and disconnected from the corny and regulator.

I'm guessing others here are transporting gas too, if only to get it refilled and brought home again.  How do you guys transport your gas tanks?

Thanks in advance
Keith

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You're right to be concerned, I covered this at the Brewcon Safety lecture, a 5kg cylinder of CO2 will take up 2.5 cubic meters at atmospheric pressure, ie a lot more than your car, if the valve is leaking it could replace all the air in your car, and the big thing with CO2 is that it's a silent killer, you can't smell it, and it will gently and you off to sleep, before suffocating you, not a good idea at the wheel of the car. Whenever I pick up a cylinder, I make sure to keep a window open, furthermore you'll need to keep it strapped down well as you could end up knocking the valve off, if the cylinder bangs against something during the drive, here's a little video to help demonstrate why cylinders should be secured properly
https://youtu.be/f-xmaPSZ6GM (https://youtu.be/f-xmaPSZ6GM)

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Strap it in tight, open some windows and you should be good to go.  Contemplating a similar trip next week myself brought my mind back to this (https://www.nationalhomebrewclub.ie/forum/equipment-chemicals/transporting-co2/msg2688/#msg2688) thread.

I regularly transport 5 or 6 bottles, double check valve and ensure it doesn't move around vehicle boot.

Just read this article on homebrew finds.  Could be a good solution. http://www.homebrewfinds.com/2018/12/using-a-keg-as-a-co2-source-for-portable-serving.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter